MVV/LVA versus SEE

[Chan Rasjid]

May I ask how old you are ?

Thomas...

Don't ask.

Read the Bible. How long will a righteous man live and enjoy before he dies.

Rasjid.

[bob]

Some people use Most Valuable Victim/Least Valuable Aggressor to improve capture moves order. But is Static Exchange Evaluation not always better.

So when to use SEE and when to use MVV/LVA ?

I can imagine MVV/LVA takes less time to compute.

The point is that mvv/lva removes big pieces first. Those are the most likely to go on a "foraging spree" and blow the tree up. MVV removes the big pieces first, the ones that are most likely to blow up the q-search...

I used to use SEE myself, but changed to this when others suggested it and testing proved it to be significantly better.

[syzygy]

add your ancestors name Henry Von The Belt, Son of Von Von, former king of Austria in 1000 BC!!!!

Don't worry, it is a Dutch "van" which is not an indication of nobility.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_%28Dutch%29

[Rebel]

I think this is what you meant to give him

http://googleitfor.me/?q=MVV%2FLVA&l=1

Thank me later Henk No wait, Thank Gerd!

[Rebel]

If you know the answer right away, you may consider if you would like to answer the question, if you do not want to keep the answer [as] [a] secret.

Henk, de meeste mensen hier willen anderen zoals jij best op weg helpen. Wat ze niet willen is co-auteur worden van jouw programma. Succes.

[JuLieN]

I think this is what you meant to give him

http://googleitfor.me/?q=MVV%2FLVA&l=1

Thank me later Henk No wait, Thank Gerd!

Joke aside, Henk, don't you understand why people are starting to feel annoyed with your beginner questions ? Beginner questions are answered everywhere on the Internet. If you would only google for them you would get an immediate answer for most of them. But no, you prefer other people to do this simple job for you. Of course people feel this is abusive. This whole thread is a developed version of the RTFM acronym.

[Henk]

I think this is what you meant to give him

http://googleitfor.me/?q=MVV%2FLVA&l=1

Thank me later Henk No wait, Thank Gerd!

Joke aside, Henk, don't you understand why people are starting to feel annoyed with your beginner questions ? Beginner questions are answered everywhere on the Internet. If you would only google for them you would get an immediate answer for most of them. But no, you prefer other people to do this simple job for you. Of course people feel this is abusive. This whole thread is a developed version of the RTFM acronym.

I violated the rule: Never post anything if you cannot delete it.
[ now I violated this rule again]

At least I should be able to rename to anonymous[].

[hgm]

Joke aside, Henk, don't you understand why people are starting to feel annoyed with your beginner questions ?

Well, actually I don't understand it. There are people here that are willing to answer such questions. It is easy enough to not answer them for those who are not willing. So why should they object?

That these threads get out of hand, sizewise, which could annoy threaded-view readers, is only due to all those unwilling to answer, and feeling the need to express their unwillingness, sometimes in most unfriendly ways. They are basically annoying themselves.

As far as I am concerned, there are only 3 posts that have a right to be in this thread. Henk's original one, plus mine and Bob's reply to it. The rest are trolling or worse. If these are from the people that get annoyed, they deserve what they get!

It would be a very sad day indeed if people could not ask any computer-Chess-related question on TalkChess...