Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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Jimbo I wrote:
Ferdy wrote: Blackmamba is all right but Hamsters forfeits on time all its games.
Does Hamsters hang on the second move? I should have warned you that you need to specify "-threads x" as a command line parameter. (Without the quotes, and x is the desired number of threads.) Give that a try.
Thanks, Hamsters is now running around :) .
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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Hamsters is strong :o

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   Engine                   Score Ha
1: Hamsters v0.7.1 elo1200  7.0/7  · 
2: Cheng4 v0.36c elo1200    0.0/1  0 
2: Ufim v8.02 elo1200       0.0/1  0 
2: SlowChess 2.960e elo1200 0.0/1  0 
2: Rybka v2.3.2a elo1200    0.0/1  0 
2: Rodent v1.3 elo1200      0.0/1  0 
2: Arasan v17.1 elo1200     0.0/1  0 
2: Amyan v1.72 elo1200      0.0/1  0 

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7 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Hamsters Gauntlet Test 1
Level: Tournament 40/3
Hardware: i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 12 GB Memory
Operating system: Win 7 Prof SP 1 64 bit
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

Post by Jimbo I »

Ferdy wrote:Hamsters is strong :o
I apologize again, it's been a while since I configured Hamsters, and I'd forgotten some of the quirks of the settings. :oops:

If you leave the blunder setting on the default setting of "disabled", it will play very strongly. I usually set blunder to either "normal" or "medium".

The strengths of the blunder settings, from strongest to weakest are:

Very hard
Disabled
Hard
Normal
Medium

(There isn't much difference between the Normal and Medium settings.)
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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Ferdy wrote:Here is my setting at the moment.
limitstrength true
elo 1200
elo_type computer
style 3
diff_engine 0
diff_computer_engine 0
diff_human_computer 0
easylevel 0
ownbook true
tourbook ./book/none.bin
mainbook ./book/super.bin
hash 128
noise 0
castling KQkq
What is your recommended values such that DanaSahZ will play at a level close to human with fide elo rating 1200?

I have run DanaSahZ with that setting, and the result so far is,
7-round swiss, TC 40moves in 3 minutes repeating, ponder off.

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Rank Engine                          ELO    1    2    3    4    5   Score      Tie  White   ELO
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1: Horizon v4.4 elo1200           1200  16B+  8W+  4W+  2W+  6B+    5.0     12.5      3   +20
  2: BlackMamba v1.2c elo1200       1200  14B+  5W+ 10W+  1B-  9B+    4.0     13.5      2   +15
  3: Deuterium v14.3.34.21 elo1200  1200   5B-  7B+ 11W+  4W+  8W+    4.0     13.5      3   +15
  4: Amyan v1.72 elo1200            1200  13B+ 12W+  1B-  3B- 10W+    3.0     15.0      2    +5
  5: Tornado v4.4 elo1200           1200   3W+  2B-  9B- 12W+ 13W+    3.0     14.5      3    +5
  6: Rybka v2.3.2a elo1200          1200   8B- 14W+ 12B+ 10W+  1W-    3.0     12.5      3    +5
  7: DanaSahZ 0.4 elo1200           1200  10B-  3W- 16W+ 11B+ 14W+    3.0      9.0      3     0
  8: Cheng4 v0.36c elo1200          1200   6W+  1B- 13B+  9W=  3B-    2.5     16.5      2     0
  9: SlowChess 2.960e elo1200       1200  11W- 15B+  5W+  8B=  2W-    2.5     12.5      3     0
 10: Ufim v8.02 elo1200             1200   7W+ 11B+  2B-  6B-  4B-    2.0     15.0      1    -5
 11: Hiarcs v14 elo1200             1200   9B+ 10W-  3B-  7W- 15W+    2.0     12.5      3    -5
 12: MadChess v1.4 elo1200          1200  15W+  4B-  6W-  5B- 16W+    2.0     10.0      3   -10
 13: Houdini v4 elo1200             1200   4W- 16B+  8W- 14B+  5B-    2.0      9.5      2   -10
 14: Rodent v1.3 elo1200            1200   2W-  6B- 15B+ 13W-  7B-    1.0     13.0      2   -15
 15: Arasan v17.1 elo1200           1200  12B-  9W- 14W- 16W+ 11B-    1.0      7.5      3   -20
 16: <Bye>                             1   1W- 13W-  7B- 15B- 12B-    0.0     13.0      2     0
limitstrength true
elo 1200
elo_type human
style 3
diff_engine 0
diff_computer_engine 466
diff_human_computer 70
easylevel 0
ownbook true
tourbook ./book/none.bin
mainbook ./book/super.bin
hash 128
noise 0
castling KQkq

A user who wants to play as a human only has to put elo_type human and select the elo. (The diff parameters are rather internally and should not be modified by the user to do things so complicated).

With this configuration the engine will be weaker than your configuration, approximately (466 +70) / 2 = 268 points. A human will be eternally grateful :D

Another thing I do is limit the number of plys of the openning book with the elo (elo/100). With Elo 1200 engine play the first 12 ply (6 moves)
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

Post by styx »

Texel from the very talented Peter Österlund is also strength adjustable (but does not support UCI_Elo)

but maybe it is not useful for you, since its strength adjustment parameter does not have an Elo reference (0 (random legal moves) - 1000 (full strength))
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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Ferdy wrote:What I have so far are the following. Tell me if you know of other engines :).
Just a simple note regarding strength limit in cheng4, I found a bug recently (forgot to subtract elapsed time,
was 1+penalty_time_multiplier instead of penalty_time_multiplier),
so now it should be a tiny bit stronger in strength limit mode).
Fixed version can be found at github btw.: https://github.com/kmar/cheng4
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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mar wrote: Fixed version can be found at github btw.: https://github.com/kmar/cheng4
Thanks but I am not successful in compiling the sources.
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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styx wrote:Texel from the very talented Peter Österlund is also strength adjustable (but does not support UCI_Elo)

but maybe it is not useful for you, since its strength adjustment parameter does not have an Elo reference (0 (random legal moves) - 1000 (full strength))
At present I put my attention on engines with settable elo figures.
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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limitstrength true
elo 1200
elo_type human
style 3
diff_engine 0
diff_computer_engine 466
diff_human_computer 70
easylevel 0
ownbook true
tourbook ./book/none.bin
mainbook ./book/super.bin
hash 128
noise 0
castling KQkq

A user who wants to play as a human only has to put elo_type human and select the elo. (The diff parameters are rather internally and should not be modified by the user to do things so complicated).

With this configuration the engine will be weaker than your configuration, approximately (466 +70) / 2 = 268 points. A human will be eternally grateful
The result indeed is very low, with 3 forfeits on time, 2 from SlowChess and 1 from DanaSahZ.
7-round swiss, TC 40 moves in 3 minutes repeating.

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Rank Engine                          ELO    1    2    3    4    5    6    7   Score      Tie  White   ELO
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1: Horizon v4.4 elo1200           1200   3B+  2W=  7B+  4B+  9W+  8B+  5W+    6.5     29.0      3   +30
  2: Hamsters v0.7.1 elo1200        1200   5W+  1B= 12W+  7W+  4B+  3B+  8W+    6.5     28.5      4   +30
  3: Amyan v1.72 elo1200            1200   1W- 10B+ 11W+  6B+  8W-  2W-  4B+    4.0     31.0      4    +5
  4: Houdini v4 elo1200             1200  12B+ 11W+  6B+  1W-  2W-  7B+  3W-    4.0     30.5      4    +5
  5: Tornado v4.4 elo1200           1200   2B-  8W- 10W+ 12B+ 14B+  9W+  1B-    4.0     28.5      3    +5
  6: BlackMamba v1.2c elo1200       1200  14B+ 15B+  4W-  3W-  7B- 13W+ 16W+    4.0     18.5      4    +5
  7: Deuterium v14.3.34.21 elo1200  1200  13B+  9W+  1W-  2B-  6W+  4W- 10B=    3.5     31.0      4     0
  8: Cheng4 v0.36c elo1200          1200  15W-  5B+  9W= 11B+  3B+  1W-  2B-    3.5     29.5      3     0
  9: Rybka v2.3.2a elo1200          1200  16W+  7B-  8B= 14W+  1B-  5B- 11W+    3.5     22.5      3     0
 10: Hiarcs v14 elo1200             1200  11B-  3W-  5B- 16W+ 12W+ 15B+  7W=    3.5     19.5      4     0
 11: Ufim v8.02 elo1200             1200  10W+  4B-  3B-  8W- 13B+ 14W+  9B-    3.0     23.5      3    -5
 12: Arasan v17.1 elo1200           1200   4W- 13B+  2B-  5W- 10B- 16W+ 15B+    3.0     23.0      3    -5
 13: SlowChess 2.960e elo1200       1200   7W- 12W- 16B+ 15B+ 11W-  6B- 14W+    3.0     17.5      4    -5
 14: MadChess v1.4 elo1200          1200   6W- 16B+ 15W+  9B-  5W- 11B- 13B-    2.0     19.5      3   -15
 15: Rodent v1.3 elo1200            1200   8B+  6W- 14B- 13W- 16B+ 10W- 12W-    2.0     19.0      4   -15
 16: DanaSahZ v0.4 elo1200          1200   9B- 14W- 13W- 10B- 15W- 12B-  6B-    0.0     21.0      3   -35
DanaSahZ game with time forfeit. I actually thought of implementing time forfeit in very hopeless position for elo rating below 1000 :).
[pgn]
[Event "Swiss1200-9"]
[Site "Home"]
[Date "2014.07.24"]
[Round "5.1"]
[White "DanaSahZ v0.4 elo1200"]
[Black "Rodent v1.3 elo1200"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "1200"]
[ECO "A06"]
[Opening "Reti Opening"]
[Time "13:29:09"]
[Variation "Nimzowitsch-Larsen"]
[WhiteElo "1200"]
[TimeControl "40/180:40/180:40/180"]
[Termination "time forfeit"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. b3 Bf5 {+1.08/15 3} 3. Ne5 {+1.63/3 3} Nf6 {+1.36/17 3} 4. c3
{+1.54/5 8} g5 {+1.60/16 3} 5. d3 {-1.72/4 8} Bh6 {+0.92/17 3} 6. b4
{+1.71/6 10} d4 {+1.80/19 3} 7. cxd4 {+2.54/4 9} Qxd4 {+2.04/23 3} 8. Bd2
{-4.14/4 8} Qxa1 {+4.00/21 3} 9. Nc3 {-6.50/4 8} Nbd7 {+6.92/18 3} 10. Qxa1
{-1.34/5 9} Nxe5 {-3.88/23 3} 11. b5 {-0.18/4 8} Be6 {-0.92/17 3} 12. Kd1
{-0.79/4 9} O-O {-0.84/18 3} 13. Be3 {-0.32/4 10} Rfc8 {-0.28/14 3} 14. Bd4
{+2.97/4 6} g4 {-0.52/15 3} 15. Bxa7 {-1.47/5 8} Rxa7 {+2.88/24 4} 16. Ke1
{-4.50/4 11} Nd5 {+3.16/21 4} 17. a3 {-3.31/5 9} Bg7 {+5.40/18 4} 18. b6
{-5.29/4 9} cxb6 {+6.72/20 4} 19. Qd1 {-5.45/5 9} Nxc3 {+6.12/22 4} 20. Qc1
{-8.08/5 11} b5 {+10.48/23 4} 21. Qe3 {-8.61/5 10} Rxa3 {+M5/24 4} 22. ...
{White forfeits on time} 0-1
[/pgn]
With this setting of DanaSahZ, what rating level in activ list is this comparable?
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Re: Wanted engines with UCI_Elo

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Ferdy wrote: Thanks but I am not successful in compiling the sources.
Uh oh :(. What OS/compiler do you use?
I tried the win version now and compiles just fine (there is VS2012 solution+project).
For other OSes, there are simple shell scripts (instead of makefile :) make_*.sh
Maybe - almost forgot, either compile all the .cpp sources except "allinone.cpp", or just that one (where everything is glue-included)