FCT1: Tornado 5.0 SSE4 x64 is still running ...

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Re: FCT1: Tornado 5.0 SSE4 x64 ... after 900 = 2727

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Sedat,

but that isn't my intention.
I try to simulate actual GM-Praxis ...

Have a look here (GM-Theory)

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Games        : 135430 (finished)

White Wins   :  47252 (34.9 %)
Black Wins   :  29841 (22.0 %)
Draws        :  58337 (43.1 %)
Unfinished   :      0

White Perf.  : 56.4 %
Black Perf.  : 43.6 %

ECO A =  18877 Games (13.9 %)
ECO B =  36313 Games (26.8 %)
ECO C =  23767 Games (17.5 %)
ECO D =  30737 Games (22.7 %)
ECO E =  25736 Games (19.0 %)
And exactly this try my book!
Only a small problem with ECO C and D.
But I like it to have more 1. e4 games ...

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Latest 2.500 games 
 ECO A =    330 Games (13.2 %) - 0.7, OK 
 ECO B =    641 Games (25.6 %) - 1.2, OK 
 ECO C =    573 Games (22.9 %) + 5.4, OK will have more C 
 ECO D =    452 Games (18.1 %) - 4.6, OK will have lesser D 
 ECO E =    504 Games (20.2 %) + 1.2, OK 
That was a half year hard work. I try to simulate ECO codes often play in GM-Theory too.

Furthermore, all ECO codes should be play.
You can find in each critical ECO code good lines, balanced for both sites. Such lines for E99, or C30-C39 other openings (examples). But all this you know better I think.

All works fine here ...
Won, draw, lost statistic is absolutly right ... have a look in GM-Theory based on 135.000 TOP GM games.

Again ...
I try to simulate, yes ...
But the complete book is optimated with FCT1 and SWCR1 / SWCR2 engine games. Basic comes from GM-games, all the corections from eng-eng games ... new games I added only from my eng-eng tourneys. That works wonderful ...

Once problem I have is an older collected database from GM games. Without to check the lines I added the database in my book. Today I have the problem that I have to fish the bad lines. In this case each FCT1 games are checked and from time to time I deleted the bad lines, find by FCT1 engines.

But I can life with it because I find interesting things if I checked all again and again, again and again and again.

Best
Frank
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Re: FCT1: Tornado 5.0 SSE4 x64 ... after 900 = 2727

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

Hello Frank,

First of all,
Your engine database is quality one and it is useful, there are a lot of strong openings!

But be aware in that,
I noticed also many weak openings in your database...
So... the Top engines are not GMs, simply some Human ECO codes do not suit for engine playing styles!

A little hint,
Please create a book (based on FCT, SWCR games), then you can start to disable those openings which are below than:
- Whites with 50 % winning percentage!
- Blacks with 40 % winning percentage!

Btw,
You are one of the biggest experts...and I have no doubts that you will create a superior book !

Best,
Sedat
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Re: FCT1: Tornado 5.0 SSE4 x64 ... after 900 = 2727

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Sedat,

yes I start working for a while ...
With the following idea ...

1. I create the basic book and set for each line the priority ... used here:
Internationales Schlüsselbuch der Schacheröffnungen, International Opening Keys by Sergiu Samarian. That is really a perfect work.

if ready ...

2. I will create 500 databases and copy the games from FCT1 and SWCR2 in the databases, A00, A01, A02 ... I have for each of the games the eval.

So I can very easy find out what is good or not. Each game will be check. Database for database will be add and checked again. With the results ...

- no bad lines
- all ECO codes can be play
- must not set priorities again (do it in step 1).

And most important ...
I don't have "Zugumstellungen" in my book.

If you will like to see what I do ...
Here the work for A00-A99 (all is created by hand, 1:1 with very little changes to the work by Sergiu Samarian).

Download the file and have a look ...
And the same for B00-B99, C00-C99 ... main book is ready.

Later users can download the main book and can do this one ...

Copy correspondence games in the book or other games ... main work with prioritis are allways ready.

But for the moment I am very busy to make the book better I have. I will not lost the my actual book because I am working many hours, often each day on this book. And I can see that the results are really good. I am very happy !!!

Best
Frank

HAVE A LOOK SEDAT:

http://www.amateurschach.de/download/io ... 00-a99.zip

Hint:
Priorities I find out in Simulation GM games will be set later ... if A00-E99 is ready. Priorities for the Moment in A00-A99 will only help me a bit later. A lot of work, believe me ... but the result will be very good for testing engines (Rating list, tourneys, longer eng-eng matches).

More or less ...
What I do with the book I have is step 1 ... Need eng-eng games! My new book will be step 2 ...

And for this reason it's very very important to work on the book I have for create excellent material I need for step 2 ...
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Re: FCT1: Tornado 5.0 SSE4 x64 ... after 900 = 2727

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

And STEP 3 will be ...
(Forgot to wrote this).

To add the good lines I have in over 100 books to openings so far. Next year a very fast system I am using only for this work. Will do it in my holiday end of the year, means to config a new systems for the work to my new book. That is the idea I have in my brain.

Not sure how strong the book will be ...
But not important ... important only that I have fun with a result, perhaps intersting for the others or not.

Best
Frank
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Re: FCT1: Tornado 5.0 SSE4 x64 ... after 900 = 2727

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

Hello Frank,

Very good idea...

Yes...it will be better and stronger your book,
if you import only those games, which are played by top chess engines!

I wish you good luck my friend!


Best,
Sedat