KOMODO 1405 x64 6CPU v STOCKFISH 210315 x64 6CPU (Match)

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Re: KOMODO 1405 x64 6CPU v STOCKFISH 210315 x64 6CPU (Match)

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Stockfish opening up a small gap.

Stockfish leads 171.0 - 165.0 ( +51 = 240 -45 )
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Re: KOMODO 1405 x64 6CPU v STOCKFISH 210315 x64 6CPU (Match)

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Current Score:

Stockfish leads 197.5 - 190.5 ( +61 =273 -54 )
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Re: KOMODO 1405 x64 6CPU v STOCKFISH 210315 x64 6CPU (Match)

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50,9%. Komodo team have reduced the gap a lot recently.
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JJJ wrote:50,9%. Komodo team have reduced the gap a lot recently.
Yes - I would not have expected Komodo to be this close at blitz.
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Modern Times wrote:
JJJ wrote:50,9%. Komodo team have reduced the gap a lot recently.
Yes - I would not have expected Komodo to be this close at blitz.
Maybe the changes introduced in recent Komodo would favour shorter time controls to the detriment of LTC?
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Re: KOMODO 1405 x64 6CPU v STOCKFISH 210315 x64 6CPU (Match)

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I wonder how long can Komodo team (one programmer and GM) compete with Stockfish framework (dozens of programmer)!? I quess it's impossible in long run.
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Re: KOMODO 1405 x64 6CPU v STOCKFISH 210315 x64 6CPU (Match)

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Jouni wrote:I wonder how long can Komodo team (one programmer and GM) compete with Stockfish framework (dozens of programmer)!? I quess it's impossible in long run.
with Stockfish framework (dozens of programmer, not all active, with very often an empty framework, with sometimes very low cores, without FM, IM, GM, SGM).
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Jouni wrote:I wonder how long can Komodo team (one programmer and GM) compete with Stockfish framework (dozens of programmer)!? I quess it's impossible in long run.
I bet that a single person, that is a very strong chess player and very experienced programmer at the same time would be able to create a much stronger engine than current SF and Komodo for a very short time even without the help of tremendous computing resources, just using a single machine for testing.

Unfortunately, currently there seem not to be such people...

It is one thing to understand chess well, or understand programming well, but quite another to understand both chess and programming at a very high level. Such exclusive skills would easily beat any team, no matter how big, of chess players and programmers.
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Re: KOMODO 1405 x64 6CPU v STOCKFISH 210315 x64 6CPU (Match)

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You are pretty much describing Vasik Rajlich there - an IM and a very talented programmer. Rybka was such a program.
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Modern Times wrote:You are pretty much describing Vasik Rajlich there - an IM and a very talented programmer. Rybka was such a program.
Not quite, but almost.

Railich was a good chess player and a good programmer.
Houdart was a good chess player and a good programmer.

Those 2 were actually the 2 most dominating engines in the history of chess, at least for certain periods of time.

But I was actually talking about a very good chess player and a very good programmer at the same time, or excellent chess player and excellent programmer at the same time, one or 2 degrees above the two authors above, a person that unfortunately, at least to my knowledge, still has not been born, or at least has not acquired both of the above skills.