Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

Post by Vinvin »

Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:14 pm

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Analysis of C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd   
Analyzing engine: Bluefish-FD-XI
9/6/2020 9:23:18 PM Level: 600 Seconds
   Source                    : List of EPD/PGN files
      C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd
   Colours                   : White moves=True, Black moves=True
   Direction                 : forward
   Games (PGN)               : From 1 to 999999
   Moves                     : All moves
   Positions (EPD)           : All positions
   Use Engine(s)             : List
      Bluefish-FD-XI
      ShashChess13.2-x86-64-avx2
      Ethereal-x64-avx2
      Houdidit:Nalimov
      Cfish-avx2-gcc
      Sting-sf-24
   Use seconds per move      : 600 Seconds per move
   Analysis Lines            : Minimum search depth=2
   Activate abort analysis   : False
  1) Bd3xh7             Bd3xh7  * 32 Seconds
  2) .. Nf6-h5          Nf6-h5  * 0 Seconds
  3) .. a4-a3           a4-a3   * 1 Second
  4) .. Bf8-e7          Bf8-e7  * 127 Seconds
  5) Bb2-c1             Bb2-c1  * 0 Seconds
  6) Qa7xd7             Qa7xd7  * 14 Seconds
  7) .. Bc8xh3          Bc8xh3  * 13 Seconds
  8) Ne5-g6             Ne5-g6  * 85 Seconds
  9) Rd1-b1             Rd1-b1  * 15 Seconds
 10) .. Qf6-g5          Qf6-g5  * 3 Seconds
 11) Rb1-e1             Rb1-e1  * 0 Seconds
 12) Nb3-c5             Nb3-c5  * 0 Seconds
 13) Nd4-f5             Nd4-f5  * 1 Second
 14) Rf5xf7             Rf5xf7  * 316 Seconds
 15) Bg2-h3             Bg2-h3  * 0 Seconds
 16) Nf3xd4             Nf3xd4  * 33 Seconds
 17) Bc2xh7             Bc2xh7  * 9 Seconds
 18) .. f4-f3           f4-f3   * 56 Seconds
 19) Re1-e4             Re1-e4  * 3 Seconds
 20) .. Ba8xe4          Ba8xe4  * 5 Seconds
 21) .. Ng5xf3, Bg4xf3  Bg4xf3  * 0 Seconds
 22) Bf4xh6             Bf4xh6  * 0 Seconds
 23) .. Bg6-e4          Bg6-e4  * 1 Second
 24) Rg1-g4             Rg1-g4  * 45 Seconds
 25) Qf3xf8             Qf3xf8  * 22 Seconds
 26) Qe4-e5, Qe4-c6, Qe4-b7, Kg2-g1  Kg2-g1  * 0 Seconds
 27) Bc3xe5             Bc3xe5  * 2 Seconds
 28) Rb6xc6             Rb6xc6  * 48 Seconds
 29) .. e4-e3           e4-e3   * 3 Seconds
 30) Rf1-f3             Rf1-f3  * 0 Seconds
 31) Kc4xd4             Kc4xd4  * 3 Seconds
 32) .. Rd7xd6          Rd7xd6  * 0 Seconds
 33) f5-f6              f5-f6   * 4 Seconds
 34) Bg7-e5             Bg7-e5  * 2 Seconds
 35) Rb2-g2             Rb2-g2  * 2 Seconds
35 of 35 matching moves
9/7/2020 3:13:55 AM, Total time: 5:50:36 AM Rated time: 14:05 = 845 Seconds
#4 and #14 took more than 60 seconds for Bluefish. I use the special settings.
Is this one core or multi-cores ?
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

Post by Dann Corbit »

63 threads (32.5 cores), so I am probably cheating.

Here is Ethereal:

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Analysis of C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd   
Analyzing engine: Ethereal-x64-avx2
9/6/2020 9:23:18 PM Level: 4000 Seconds
   Source                    : List of EPD/PGN files
      C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd
   Colours                   : White moves=True, Black moves=True
   Direction                 : forward
   Games (PGN)               : From 1 to 999999
   Moves                     : All moves
   Positions (EPD)           : All positions
   Use Engine(s)             : List
      Bluefish-FD-XI
      ShashChess13.2-x86-64-avx2
      Ethereal-x64-avx2
      Houdidit:Nalimov
      Cfish-avx2-gcc
      Sting-sf-24
   Use seconds per move      : 600 Seconds per move
   Analysis Lines            : Minimum search depth=2
   Activate abort analysis   : False
  1) Bd3xh7             Bd3xh7  * 259 Seconds
  2) .. Nf6-h5          Nf6-h5  * 180 Seconds
  3) .. a4-a3           Bd8-a5   
  4) .. Bf8-e7          g7xf6    
  5) Bb2-c1             Bb2-c1  * 134 Seconds
  6) Qa7xd7             Qa7xd7  * 474 Seconds
  7) .. Bc8xh3          Rg8-g6   
  8) Ne5-g6             ...      
  9) Rd1-b1             Rd1-b1  * 337 Seconds
 10) .. Qf6-g5          ...      
 11) Rb1-e1             Rb1-e1  * 13 Seconds
 12) Nb3-c5             Nb3-c5  * 492 Seconds
 13) Nd4-f5             Nd4-f5  * 556 Seconds
 14) Rf5xf7             h2xg3    
 15) Bg2-h3             g3-g4    
 16) Nf3xd4             ...      
 17) Bc2xh7             Nf3-g5   
 18) .. f4-f3           f4-f3   * 33 Seconds
 19) Re1-e4             Re1-e4  * 422 Seconds
 20) .. Ba8xe4          Ng7xh5   
 21) .. Ng5xf3, Bg4xf3  ...      
 22) Bf4xh6             Bf4xh6  * 580 Seconds
 23) .. Bg6-e4          Bg6-e4  * 29 Seconds
 24) Rg1-g4             Rg1-g4  * 222 Seconds
 25) Qf3xf8             Qf3xf8  * 137 Seconds
 26) Qe4-e5, Qe4-c6, Qe4-b7, Kg2-g1  f6-f7    
 27) Bc3xe5             Bc3xe5  * 207 Seconds
 28) Rb6xc6             Rb6xc6  * 539 Seconds
 29) .. e4-e3           Re7xe6   
 30) Rf1-f3             Rf1-f3  * 78 Seconds
 31) Kc4xd4             Kc4xd4  * 475 Seconds
 32) .. Rd7xd6          Rd7xd6  * 58 Seconds
 33) f5-f6              b2xc3    
 34) Bg7-e5             Bg7-e5  * 407 Seconds
 35) Rb2-g2             Rb2-g2  * 50 Seconds
21 of 35 matching moves
9/7/2020 2:55:16 PM, Total time: 5:31:57 PM Rated time: 3:54:42 = 14082 Seconds
21 of 35 so not a tactical tiger, though he has a nose for checkmate.
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

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Which version of Ethereal? 12.25 or 12.31 or..
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

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Paloma wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:01 am Which version of Ethereal? 12.25 or 12.31 or..
Current source from github.
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

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C:\Users\dannc\chess\Ethereal-master\dist>Ethereal-x64-avx2.exe
uci
id name Ethereal 12.46 (POPCNT)
id author Andrew Grant, Alayan & Laldon

It says popcnt even though I compiled for AVX2.
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

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Now that Houdini came back with a +20 score, I shall have to elevate my earlier estimate of Ethereal to tiger indeed.

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Analysis of C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd   
Analyzing engine: Houdidit:Nalimov
9/6/2020 9:23:18 PM Level: 4000 Seconds
   Source                    : List of EPD/PGN files
      C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd
   Colours                   : White moves=True, Black moves=True
   Direction                 : forward
   Games (PGN)               : From 1 to 999999
   Moves                     : All moves
   Positions (EPD)           : All positions
   Use Engine(s)             : List
      Bluefish-FD-XI
      ShashChess13.2-x86-64-avx2
      Ethereal-x64-avx2
      Houdidit:Nalimov
      Cfish-avx2-gcc
      Sting-sf-24
   Use seconds per move      : 600 Seconds per move
   Analysis Lines            : Minimum search depth=2
   Activate abort analysis   : False
  1) Bd3xh7             Bd3xh7  * 283 Seconds
  2) .. Nf6-h5          Rb3-b8   
  3) .. a4-a3           Bd8-a5   
  4) .. Bf8-e7          Nd6xc4   
  5) Bb2-c1             f6xg7    
  6) Qa7xd7             Qa7xd7  * 96 Seconds
  7) .. Bc8xh3          Rg8-g6   
  8) Ne5-g6             Qd4-b2   
  9) Rd1-b1             Rd1-b1  * 300 Seconds
 10) .. Qf6-g5          Qf6-g5  * 166 Seconds
 11) Rb1-e1             Rb1-e1  * 90 Seconds
 12) Nb3-c5             Nb3-c5  * 24 Seconds
 13) Nd4-f5             Nd4-f5  * 287 Seconds
 14) Rf5xf7             h2xg3    
 15) Bg2-h3             g3-g4    
 16) Nf3xd4             Nf3xd4  * 40 Seconds
 17) Bc2xh7             Bc2xh7  * 72 Seconds
 18) .. f4-f3           f4-f3   * 64 Seconds
 19) Re1-e4             Re1-e4  * 10 Seconds
 20) .. Ba8xe4          Ba8xe4  * 194 Seconds
 21) .. Ng5xf3, Bg4xf3  Qh6xh2   
 22) Bf4xh6             Bf4xh6  * 44 Seconds
 23) .. Bg6-e4          d3-d2    
 24) Rg1-g4             g5-g6    
 25) Qf3xf8             Qf3xc6   
 26) Qe4-e5, Qe4-c6, Qe4-b7, Kg2-g1  f6-f7    
 27) Bc3xe5             Bc3xe5  * 165 Seconds
 28) Rb6xc6             Rb6xc6  * 577 Seconds
 29) .. e4-e3           Re7xe6   
 30) Rf1-f3             Be5xg7   
 31) Kc4xd4             Kc4xd4  * 53 Seconds
 32) .. Rd7xd6          Rd7xd6  * 30 Seconds
 33) f5-f6              f5-f6   * 19 Seconds
 34) Bg7-e5             Bg7-e5  * 84 Seconds
 35) Rb2-g2             Rb2-g2  * 127 Seconds
20 of 35 matching moves
9/7/2020 8:46:17 PM, Total time: 11:22:58 PM Rated time: 3:15:25 = 11725 Seconds
Houdini scored 20 out of 35
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

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I ran SF12 with 6 threads (on Threadripper 1950X) and 2GB Hash, 60 seconds, to maintain parity with Vincent's testing conditions, and came up with 10 of 35 solved.

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Analysis of C:\Users\Albert\Chess\tough35.epd   
9/8/2020 1:05:13 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Stockfish_20090216_x64_avx2

 1 Bxh7+; id "TTT1.004" 
    Searching move: Bd3xh7
    Best move (Stockfish_20090216_x64_avx2): Qd1-h5
    Not found in: 01:00
   NNUE evaluation using nn-82215d0fd0df.nnue enabled
     2/2	00:00	         897	449k	+4.97	Qd1-h5  Qa5xe5
     3/4	00:00	          1k	576k	+4.97	Qd1-h5  Qa5xe5  Qh5xh7+  Kg8-f8
     4/5	00:00	          2k	821k	+6.99	Qd1-h5  Qa5xa3
     5/6	00:00	          4k	1,885k	+1.89	Qd1-h5  g7-g6  Qh5-h4  Qa5xa3  Rf1-d1
     6/6	00:00	          8k	3,789k	+0.75	Bg5xe7  Re8xe7  Qd1-h5  g7-g6  Qh5-h4  Qa5xa3
     7/8	00:00	         13k	4,464k	+0.54	Qd1-g4  Ne7-g6  Qg4-e4  Bc8-d7  Rf1-d1  Qa5xe5
     8/10	00:00	         32k	5,294k	+0.30	Bg5xe7  Re8xe7  Bd3-e4  Re7-b7  Qd1-d6  h7-h6  Be4xc6  Rb7xb1
     9/12	00:00	         71k	5,423k	-0.05	Rf1-e1  h7-h6  Bg5xe7  Re8xe7  Qd1-f3  Bc8-b7  Qf3-e4  g7-g6  Qe4-h4  Re7-d7
    10/14	00:00	        129k	5,622k	 0.00	Qd1-e1  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  h7xg6  Rb1-c1  Qa5xa3  Rc1xc3  Qa3-a5
    11/16	00:00	        186k	5,647k	+0.32	Qd1-h5  Ne7-g6  Rf1-e1  Bc8-a6  Re1-e3  Ra8-b8  Rb1-e1  c3-c2  Bd3xc2  Ba6xc4
    12/15	00:00	        238k	5,804k	+0.59	Qd1-h5  Ne7-g6  Rb1-e1  Ra8-b8  Re1-e3  Rb8-b2  Re3-h3  h7-h6
    13/18	00:00	        263k	5,837k	+1.25	Qd1-h5  Ne7-g6  Rb1-e1  Qa5xa3  Re1-e3  Bc8-a6  Rf1-e1  Qa3-b3  Re3-h3  h7-h6
    14/21	00:00	        837k	6,198k	+0.38	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-b4  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h7  Rb4-a4  g7xf6  Ra4xa6  Re8-g8
    15/26	00:00	      1,081k	6,211k	+1.06	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Ba6xc4  Rf1-d1  Re8-f8  Rc1xc3  Bc4-d5
    16/32	00:00	      1,524k	6,348k	+0.85	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Qg4-h4  g7xf6  Rc1xc3  Kh8-h7  Rc3-h3  Qf7-g6  Rh3-g3  Qg6-f5  Rf1-e1  Ra8-d8  e5xf6
    17/31	00:00	      2,328k	6,432k	+0.94	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Rc1xc3  g7xf6  Qg4-h4  Kh8-h7  Rc3-h3  Qf7-g6  Rh3-g3
    18/25	00:00	      2,663k	6,465k	+0.94	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Rc1xc3  g7xf6  Qg4-h4  Kh8-h7  Rc3-h3  Qf7-g6  Rh3-g3  Qg6-f5  e5xf6  Re8-g8  h2-h3
    19/34	00:00	      5,200k	6,658k	+0.63	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4-d4  c3-c2  Bh4-g3  Re8-d8  Qd4-c3  c6-c5  Qc3xc2  Qf5xc2  Rc1xc2  Rd8-d4  Rf1-c1
    20/31	00:00	      5,737k	6,656k	+0.66	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4-d4  c3-c2  Bh4-g3  Re8-d8  Qd4-c3  c6-c5  Qc3xc2  Qf5xc2  Rc1xc2  Rd8-d4  Rf1-c1  Kh8-h7  h2-h3  Ra8-d8  f2-f3
    21/38	00:01	      7,764k	6,693k	+0.50	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4-d4  c3-c2  Bh4-g3  Ra8-b8  Qd4-c3  Rb8-b1  Qc3xc2  Qf5xc2  Rc1xc2  Rb1xf1+  Kg1xf1  Re8-d8
    22/37	00:01	      8,846k	6,727k	+0.37	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4-d4  c3-c2  Bh4-g3  Ra8-b8  Qd4-c3  Rb8-b1  Qc3xc2  Qf5xc2  Rc1xc2  Rb1xf1+  Kg1xf1  Re8-d8  Bg3-f4  Rd8-d1+  Kf1-e2  Rd1-d4  Ke2-e3  Rd4xc4  Rc2xc4  Ba6xc4
    23/35	00:01	     10,699k	6,729k	+0.35	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4xf5  e6xf5  f2-f3  Ba6xc4  Rf1-e1  Ra8-b8  Rc1xc3  Bc4-d5  Bh4-f2  a7-a5  Bf2-c5  Rb8-b5  h2-h4  Rb5-b3  Rc3xb3  Bd5xb3  h4-h5  a5-a4  Bc5-b4
    24/41	00:02	     19,173k	6,727k	+0.19	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4-d4  c3-c2  Bh4-g3  Ra8-b8  Qd4-c3  Rb8-b1  Qc3xc2  Qf5xc2  Rc1xc2  Rb1xf1+  Kg1xf1  Re8-d8  Kf1-e1  Rd8-d4  f2-f3  Rd4xc4  Rc2xc4  Ba6xc4  Bg3-f2  a7-a5  Bf2-b6  a5-a4
    25/36	00:03	     24,089k	6,733k	+0.17	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4xf5  e6xf5  Bh4-g3  g7-g5  f2-f4  Ba6xc4  Rf1-f2  Ra8-b8  f4xg5  Bc4-d3  e5-e6  Rb8-b1  Rc1xb1  Bd3xb1  Bg3-e5+  Kh8-h7
    26/25+	00:03	     24,493k	6,734k	+0.25	Qd1-h5
    26/46	00:03	     25,520k	6,735k	+0.18	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-d1  Ba6xc4  Rf1-e1  Bc4-d5  Rd1-d4  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g3  Kg8-h7  Qg3-d3+  Qf7-g6  Qd3xg6+  Kh7xg6  Rd4-g4+  Kg6-f5  Rg4xg7  Re8-g8  g2-g4+  Kf5-f4  h2-h3  Rg8xg7  Bf6xg7  Kf4-g5  Re1-c1  c6-c5  Bg7-f6+  Kg5-f4  Rc1xc3  c5-c4  Bf6-g7  Kf4-g5  Kg1-h2  Ra8-g8  Bg7-f6+  Kg5-f4  Rc3-e3  h6-h5
    27/30+	00:04	     28,678k	6,738k	+0.26	Qd1-h5
    27/30+	00:04	     29,157k	6,734k	+0.34	Qd1-h5
    27/30+	00:04	     29,599k	6,727k	+0.47	Qd1-h5
    27/45	00:04	     31,231k	6,702k	+0.18	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4xf5  e6xf5  f2-f3  Ba6xc4  Rf1-e1  g7-g5  Bh4-f2  Kh8-h7  Rc1xc3  Bc4-d5  a3-a4  Kh7-g6  e5-e6  Re8-e7  Rc3-c2  Ra8-e8  a4-a5  Re7xe6  Re1xe6+  Re8xe6
    28/34+	00:05	     34,724k	6,713k	+0.26	Qd1-h5
    28/46	00:06	     45,318k	6,699k	+0.14	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4xf5  e6xf5  f2-f3  Ba6xc4  Rf1-e1  g7-g5  Bh4-f2  Kh8-g7  Rc1xc3  Bc4-d5  e5-e6  Re8-e7  Bf2-c5  Re7xe6  Re1xe6  Bd5xe6  Bc5-d4+  Kg7-f7  Rc3xc6  Ra8-c8  Rc6xc8  Be6xc8  Bd4xa7  Bc8-d7  Ba7-f2  Bd7-a4  h2-h4  f5-f4  h4xg5  h6xg5
    29/49	00:08	     55,779k	6,695k	+0.14	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qa5-c7  Rb1-c1  Qc7-f7  Qg6-g4  Kg8-h8  Bf6-h4  Qf7-f5  Qg4-d4  c3-c2  Bh4-g3  Ra8-b8  Qd4-c3  Rb8-b1  Qc3xc2  Qf5xc2  Rc1xc2  Rb1xf1+  Kg1xf1  Re8-d8  f2-f3  Rd8-d4  Bg3-f2  Rd4xc4  Rc2xc4  Ba6xc4+  Kf1-e1  a7-a5  Ke1-d2  Kh8-h7  Bf2-b6  Bc4-f1  g2-g3  a5-a4  Kd2-c3  Kh7-g6  Kc3-b4  Bf1-b5  Bb6-c7
    30/44+	00:08	     56,863k	6,700k	+0.22	Qd1-h5
    30/44+	00:08	     57,453k	6,699k	+0.30	Qd1-h5
    30/45+	00:09	     61,281k	6,694k	+0.61	Qd1-h5
    30/47	00:09	     63,167k	6,689k	+0.15	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Rf1-e1  Kg8-h7  Rb1-d1  Qa5-c7  Bf6-h4  Kh7-g8  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qc7-f7  Qg6-d3  Qf7-h5  Qd3-e4  Ra8-b8  Rd1-c1  c6-c5  Bh4-g3  Rb8-b3  Qe4-c6  Ba6xc4  Qc6xc5  Bc4-d5  Rc1xc3  Rb3xc3  Qc5xc3  Re8-b8  h2-h3  Rb8-b3  Qc3-c5  Kg8-h7  Kg1-h2  Qh5-f5  Qc5-c1  Rb3-d3  Re1-e3  Rd3xe3  Qc1xe3
    31/44+	00:10	     68,496k	6,696k	+0.23	Qd1-h5
    31/44+	00:10	     68,859k	6,696k	+0.31	Qd1-h5
    31/44	00:10	     70,769k	6,702k	+0.30	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  h2-h4  g7xf6  Bd3xg6  f6-f5  Bg6xf5+  Kg8-h8  Bf5-d3  Qa5xe5  Rf1-e1  Qe5-g7  Qg4-f3  Ra8-d8  Rb1-c1  c6-c5  Bd3-f1  f7-f5  Qf3xc3  Qg7xc3  Rc1xc3  e6-e5  Rc3-g3  Kh8-h7  h4-h5  Rd8-d4  Rg3-g6  Ba6xc4  Bf1xc4  Rd4xc4  Rg6-f6
    32/33+	00:11	     76,290k	6,680k	+0.38	Qd1-h5
    32/54+	00:12	     81,452k	6,676k	+0.47	Qd1-h5
    32/54-	00:13	     91,501k	6,702k	+0.22	Qd1-h5  h7-h6
    32/55	00:17	    118,217k	6,689k	+0.26	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Rf1-e1  Kg8-h7  Rb1-d1  Qa5-c7  Bf6-h4  Kh7-g8  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qc7-f7  Qg6-d3  Qf7-h5  Qd3-e4  Ra8-b8  Rd1-c1  c6-c5  Bh4-g3  Rb8-b3  Qe4-c6  Ba6xc4  Qc6xc5  Bc4-d5  Rc1xc3  Rb3xc3  Qc5xc3  Re8-b8  h2-h4  Qh5-f5  Qc3-c5  Rb8-b1  f2-f3  a7-a6  Qc5-c8+  Kg8-h7  Re1xb1  Qf5xb1+  Kg1-h2  Qb1-f1  Qc8-f8  Qf1-e2
    33/45-	00:23	    154,573k	6,670k	+0.18	Qd1-h5  h7-h6
    33/56+	00:25	    171,673k	6,665k	+0.26	Qd1-h5
    33/56+	00:25	    173,218k	6,665k	+0.39	Qd1-h5
    33/56	00:33	    221,795k	6,632k	+0.15	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  h2-h4  g7xf6  Qh5-g4+  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f6-f5  Bg6xf5+  Kg8-h8  Bf5-e4  Qa5xe5  Rf1-e1  Re8-g8  Qg4-f3  Qe5-g7  g2-g3  Ra8-d8  Rb1-c1  c6-c5  Rc1xc3  Rd8-d4  Qf3-h5  Rg8-c8  Be4-d3  Kh8-g8  Bd3-f1  Ba6-b7  Rc3-b3  Bb7-e4  Re1-e3  Be4-g6  Qh5-e2  Rc8-d8  Rb3-b7  Rd4-d1  Rb7xa7
    34/42	00:39	    262,231k	6,637k	+0.10	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Rf1-e1  Kg8-h7  Rb1-d1  Qa5-c7  Bf6-h4  Kh7-g8  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qc7-f7  Qg6-d3  Qf7-h5  Qd3-e4  Ra8-b8  Rd1-c1  c6-c5  Bh4-g3  Rb8-b3  Qe4-c6  Ba6xc4  Qc6xc5  Bc4-d5  Rc1xc3  Rb3xc3  Qc5xc3  Re8-b8  h2-h3  Qh5-g6  Kg1-h2  Rb8-b3  Qc3-c1  Qg6-d3  Re1-d1  Qd3-c4  Qc1xc4
    35/53+	00:39	    265,004k	6,637k	+0.18	Qd1-h5
    35/53	00:40	    267,142k	6,639k	+0.18	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Rf1-e1  Kg8-h7  Rb1-d1  Qa5-c7  Bf6-h4  Kh7-g8  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qc7-f7  Qg6-d3  Qf7-h5  Qd3-e4  Ra8-b8  Rd1-c1  c6-c5  Bh4-g3  Rb8-b3  Qe4-c6  Ba6xc4  Qc6xc5  Bc4-d5  Rc1xc3  Rb3xc3  Qc5xc3  Re8-b8  h2-h3  Qh5-g6  Kg1-h2  Rb8-b3  Qc3-c1  Qg6-g5  Re1-e3  Rb3xe3
    36/49+	00:40	    270,644k	6,641k	+0.26	Qd1-h5
    36/49+	00:41	    273,469k	6,643k	+0.34	Qd1-h5
    36/57	00:43	    287,323k	6,641k	+0.18	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  Qh5-g4  Ne7-g6  Rf1-e1  Kg8-h7  Rb1-d1  Qa5-c7  Bf6-h4  Kh7-g8  Bd3xg6  f7xg6  Qg4xg6  Qc7-f7  Qg6-d3  Qf7-h5  Qd3-e4  Ra8-b8  Rd1-c1  c6-c5  Bh4-g3  Rb8-b3  Qe4-c6  Ba6xc4  Qc6xc5  Bc4-d5  h2-h3  Re8-b8  Kg1-h2  Qh5-f5  Rc1xc3  Rb3xc3  Qc5xc3  Rb8-b3  Qc3-c1  Qf5-g5  Re1-e3  Rb3xe3  h3-h4  Re3xg3  h4xg5  Rg3xg2+  Kh2-h3  Rg2xg5  Qc1-c8+  Kg8-h7  Qc8-c7
    37/55+	00:44	    296,261k	6,633k	+0.26	Qd1-h5
    37/55+	00:45	    298,615k	6,631k	+0.34	Qd1-h5
    37/60+	00:49	    327,485k	6,624k	+0.64	Qd1-h5
    37/60	00:51	    340,697k	6,625k	+0.56	Qd1-h5  h7-h6  Bg5-f6  Bc8-a6  h2-h4  g7xf6  Qh5-g4+  Ne7-g6  Bd3xg6  f6-f5  Bg6xf5+  Kg8-h8  Bf5-d3  Qa5xe5  Qg4-f3  Ra8-d8  Rb1-c1  f7-f5  Rf1-e1  Qe5-g7  Bd3-f1  c6-c5  Rc1xc3  Ba6-b7  Qf3-h3  Bb7-e4  Qh3-e3  Re8-g8  Qe3-c1  Kh8-h7  Rc3-b3  Qg7-d4  Qc1-e3  Rd8-b8  Rb3xb8  Rg8xb8  f2-f3  Rb8-b1  Qe3xd4  c5xd4  Re1xb1  Be4xb1  c4-c5  d4-d3
    38/51-	00:58	    386,979k	6,645k	+0.48	Qd1-h5  h7-h6
   9/8/2020 1:06:16 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:01:00, Rated time: 01:00

 2 N6h5; id "TTT1.005"; 
    Searching move: Nf6-h5
    Best move (Stockfish_20090216_x64_avx2): Rb3xc3
    Not found in: 01:00
   NNUE evaluation using nn-82215d0fd0df.nnue enabled
     2/2	00:00	          2k	2,126k	-0.41	Rb3-b7  Bh2xf4  e5xf4  Na7xc8  Rf8xc8  Bc4xa6

etc.
10 of 35 matching moves
9/8/2020 1:34:18 PM, Total time: 12:29:04 AM
Rated time: 27:24 = 1644 Seconds
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

Post by Dann Corbit »

CFish on AMD 3970x managed all but 1:

Code: Select all

Analysis of C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd   
Analyzing engine: Cfish-avx2-gcc
9/6/2020 9:23:18 PM Level: 4000 Seconds
   Source                    : List of EPD/PGN files
      C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd
   Colours                   : White moves=True, Black moves=True
   Direction                 : forward
   Games (PGN)               : From 1 to 999999
   Moves                     : All moves
   Positions (EPD)           : All positions
   Use Engine(s)             : List
      Bluefish-FD-XI
      ShashChess13.2-x86-64-avx2
      Ethereal-x64-avx2
      Houdidit:Nalimov
      Cfish-avx2-gcc
      Sting-sf-24
   Use seconds per move      : 600 Seconds per move
   Analysis Lines            : Minimum search depth=2
   Activate abort analysis   : False
  1) Bd3xh7             Bd3xh7  * 308 Seconds
  2) .. Nf6-h5          Nf6-h5  * 50 Seconds
  3) .. a4-a3           a4-a3   * 61 Seconds
  4) .. Bf8-e7          Bf8-e7  * 281 Seconds
  5) Bb2-c1             Bb2-c1  * 51 Seconds
  6) Qa7xd7             Qa7xd7  * 4 Seconds
  7) .. Bc8xh3          Bc8xh3  * 138 Seconds
  8) Ne5-g6             Qd4-b2   
  9) Rd1-b1             Rd1-b1  * 66 Seconds
 10) .. Qf6-g5          Qf6-g5  * 31 Seconds
 11) Rb1-e1             Rb1-e1  * 0 Seconds
 12) Nb3-c5             Nb3-c5  * 22 Seconds
 13) Nd4-f5             Nd4-f5  * 4 Seconds
 14) Rf5xf7             Rf5xf7  * 171 Seconds
 15) Bg2-h3             Bg2-h3  * 33 Seconds
 16) Nf3xd4             Nf3xd4  * 5 Seconds
 17) Bc2xh7             Bc2xh7  * 56 Seconds
 18) .. f4-f3           f4-f3   * 12 Seconds
 19) Re1-e4             Re1-e4  * 188 Seconds
 20) .. Ba8xe4          Ba8xe4  * 14 Seconds
 21) .. Ng5xf3, Bg4xf3  Ng5xf3  * 2 Seconds
 22) Bf4xh6             Bf4xh6  * 27 Seconds
 23) .. Bg6-e4          Bg6-e4  * 0 Seconds
 24) Rg1-g4             Rg1-g4  * 413 Seconds
 25) Qf3xf8             Qf3xf8  * 92 Seconds
 26) Qe4-e5, Qe4-c6, Qe4-b7, Kg2-g1  Qe4-e5  * 35 Seconds
 27) Bc3xe5             Bc3xe5  * 11 Seconds
 28) Rb6xc6             Rb6xc6  * 0 Seconds
 29) .. e4-e3           e4-e3   * 306 Seconds
 30) Rf1-f3             Rf1-f3  * 5 Seconds
 31) Kc4xd4             Kc4xd4  * 11 Seconds
 32) .. Rd7xd6          Rd7xd6  * 42 Seconds
 33) f5-f6              f5-f6   * 44 Seconds
 34) Bg7-e5             Bg7-e5  * 116 Seconds
 35) Rb2-g2             Rb2-g2  * 14 Seconds
34 of 35 matching moves
9/8/2020 2:36:56 AM, Total time: 5:13:37 AM Rated time: 53:33 = 3213 Seconds
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

Post by Albert Silver »

Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:23 pm CFish on AMD 3970x managed all but 1:

Code: Select all

Analysis of C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd   
Analyzing engine: Cfish-avx2-gcc
9/6/2020 9:23:18 PM Level: 4000 Seconds
   Source                    : List of EPD/PGN files
      C:\Users\dannc\Downloads\tttsub.epd
   Colours                   : White moves=True, Black moves=True
   Direction                 : forward
   Games (PGN)               : From 1 to 999999
   Moves                     : All moves
   Positions (EPD)           : All positions
   Use Engine(s)             : List
      Bluefish-FD-XI
      ShashChess13.2-x86-64-avx2
      Ethereal-x64-avx2
      Houdidit:Nalimov
      Cfish-avx2-gcc
      Sting-sf-24
   Use seconds per move      : 600 Seconds per move
   Analysis Lines            : Minimum search depth=2
   Activate abort analysis   : False
  1) Bd3xh7             Bd3xh7  * 308 Seconds
  2) .. Nf6-h5          Nf6-h5  * 50 Seconds
  3) .. a4-a3           a4-a3   * 61 Seconds
  4) .. Bf8-e7          Bf8-e7  * 281 Seconds
  5) Bb2-c1             Bb2-c1  * 51 Seconds
  6) Qa7xd7             Qa7xd7  * 4 Seconds
  7) .. Bc8xh3          Bc8xh3  * 138 Seconds
  8) Ne5-g6             Qd4-b2   
  9) Rd1-b1             Rd1-b1  * 66 Seconds
 10) .. Qf6-g5          Qf6-g5  * 31 Seconds
 11) Rb1-e1             Rb1-e1  * 0 Seconds
 12) Nb3-c5             Nb3-c5  * 22 Seconds
 13) Nd4-f5             Nd4-f5  * 4 Seconds
 14) Rf5xf7             Rf5xf7  * 171 Seconds
 15) Bg2-h3             Bg2-h3  * 33 Seconds
 16) Nf3xd4             Nf3xd4  * 5 Seconds
 17) Bc2xh7             Bc2xh7  * 56 Seconds
 18) .. f4-f3           f4-f3   * 12 Seconds
 19) Re1-e4             Re1-e4  * 188 Seconds
 20) .. Ba8xe4          Ba8xe4  * 14 Seconds
 21) .. Ng5xf3, Bg4xf3  Ng5xf3  * 2 Seconds
 22) Bf4xh6             Bf4xh6  * 27 Seconds
 23) .. Bg6-e4          Bg6-e4  * 0 Seconds
 24) Rg1-g4             Rg1-g4  * 413 Seconds
 25) Qf3xf8             Qf3xf8  * 92 Seconds
 26) Qe4-e5, Qe4-c6, Qe4-b7, Kg2-g1  Qe4-e5  * 35 Seconds
 27) Bc3xe5             Bc3xe5  * 11 Seconds
 28) Rb6xc6             Rb6xc6  * 0 Seconds
 29) .. e4-e3           e4-e3   * 306 Seconds
 30) Rf1-f3             Rf1-f3  * 5 Seconds
 31) Kc4xd4             Kc4xd4  * 11 Seconds
 32) .. Rd7xd6          Rd7xd6  * 42 Seconds
 33) f5-f6              f5-f6   * 44 Seconds
 34) Bg7-e5             Bg7-e5  * 116 Seconds
 35) Rb2-g2             Rb2-g2  * 14 Seconds
34 of 35 matching moves
9/8/2020 2:36:56 AM, Total time: 5:13:37 AM Rated time: 53:33 = 3213 Seconds
Not sure you can compare 63 threads with 6.... :-D

Also, I see you ran them for ten minutes too.
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Re: Tough Tactical Test, the 35 hardest positions

Post by Dann Corbit »

Albert Silver wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:31 pm
Not sure you can compare 63 threads with 6.... :-D

Also, I see you ran them for ten minutes too.
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