Chessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:59 amChessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:57 amamanjpro wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:37 am OK, your fen was very wrong, white is in check, and white still has castling right, which confused my engine to death, here is probably the correct fen:
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
Stockfish finds mate in 9 instantly, and took some more time to find mate in 7, Zahak needed to reach depth 28 to find mate in 7:
what about 4. Rf6. This should stop the forced 7 move mate if Ne5. The listed move 4 Nd4I think that's 8-move checkmate, i.e., 15 moves. 3. Ne5 yields 7-move mate. Solution: 1 Qe4, Bxh6, 2 Rd8+, Kg7, 3 Nd4 Bf4, 4 Ne6+ Kh6, 5 Rd1 Pc5, 6 Rh1+ Bh2 7 Rxh2 #Code: Select all
info depth 28 seldepth 15 hashfull 779 nodes 113354684 nps 1115465 score mate +7 time 101620 pv c4e6 e3h6 d1d8 f8g7 f3e5 f6e5 e6e5 f7f6 d8d7 g7g8 e5f6 b7b5 f6f7 g8h8 f7h7
thanks: sorry about the mistakes, I rushed it too fast I guess: 1. Qe4 ..... starts the forced 7-move mate,
Even this fen above is wrong, Please use the FEN tag to render it so you see what you are posting, are you sure this is the position, cant you see white is in check, and it is black's move (or at least that is what assumed):
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/pp4p1/1K1R4
Compare your engine's performance
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Chessnut1071
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Re: Compare your engine's performance
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Re: Compare your engine's performance
Well, ok, on the assumption that this is the actual position:
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
The King finds Mate in 7 in less than a second.
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
The King finds Mate in 7 in less than a second.
Code: Select all
Time Depth Score Positions Moves
0:00 1/3 13.99 4781 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Rd7+ Kxd7 3.Qxf7+
Kd6 4.Qxf6+ Kc5 5.Qe5+ Kb6 6.Qxe3+
c5
0:00 1/4 17.01 28884 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+
Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+
Ke5 8.Qxc7+ Kd5 9.Nxh7
0:00 1/5 18.32 95220 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+
Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+
Ke5 8.Re8+ Kf4 9.Ne6+ Kg3 10.Qg5+
Kh2 11.Nxc5
0:00 1/5 Mate08 112202 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5
4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5
7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7#
0:00 1/6 Mate08 148296 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5
4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5
7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7#
0:00 1/7 Mate08 304400 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5
4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5
7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7#
0:00 1/8 Mate08 692755 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5
4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5
7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7#
0:00 1/8 Mate07 1278179 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7
4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5
7.Qf7#
0:00 2/9 Mate07 1399236 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7
4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5
7.Qf7#
0:01 3/10 Mate07 3639655 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7
4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5
7.Qf7#
0:04 4/11 Mate07 10290529 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7
4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5
7.Qf7#
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Re: Compare your engine's performance
Soory, but King needs to go back to the drawling boards 1 Qe4 Bxh6!JVMerlino wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:53 am Well, ok, on the assumption that this is the actual position:
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
The King finds Mate in 7 in less than a second.Code: Select all
Time Depth Score Positions Moves 0:00 1/3 13.99 4781 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Rd7+ Kxd7 3.Qxf7+ Kd6 4.Qxf6+ Kc5 5.Qe5+ Kb6 6.Qxe3+ c5 0:00 1/4 17.01 28884 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Qxc7+ Kd5 9.Nxh7 0:00 1/5 18.32 95220 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Re8+ Kf4 9.Ne6+ Kg3 10.Qg5+ Kh2 11.Nxc5 0:00 1/5 Mate08 112202 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/6 Mate08 148296 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/7 Mate08 304400 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate08 692755 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate07 1278179 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:00 2/9 Mate07 1399236 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:01 3/10 Mate07 3639655 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:04 4/11 Mate07 10290529 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7#
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Re: Compare your engine's performance
Why do you think B×h6 is stronger than Bd2? They both delay the mate by the same exact amount...and that is what mattersChessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:05 amSoory, but King needs to go back to the drawling boards 1 Qe4 Bxh6!JVMerlino wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:53 am Well, ok, on the assumption that this is the actual position:
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
The King finds Mate in 7 in less than a second.Code: Select all
Time Depth Score Positions Moves 0:00 1/3 13.99 4781 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Rd7+ Kxd7 3.Qxf7+ Kd6 4.Qxf6+ Kc5 5.Qe5+ Kb6 6.Qxe3+ c5 0:00 1/4 17.01 28884 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Qxc7+ Kd5 9.Nxh7 0:00 1/5 18.32 95220 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Re8+ Kf4 9.Ne6+ Kg3 10.Qg5+ Kh2 11.Nxc5 0:00 1/5 Mate08 112202 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/6 Mate08 148296 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/7 Mate08 304400 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate08 692755 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate07 1278179 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:00 2/9 Mate07 1399236 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:01 3/10 Mate07 3639655 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:04 4/11 Mate07 10290529 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7#
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Re: Compare your engine's performance
if 1 .... Bd2 black can be mated before 7amanjpro wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:08 amWhy do you think B×h6 is stronger than Bd2? They both delay the mate by the same exact amount...and that is what mattersChessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:05 amSoory, but King needs to go back to the drawling boards 1 Qe4 Bxh6!JVMerlino wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:53 am Well, ok, on the assumption that this is the actual position:
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
The King finds Mate in 7 in less than a second.Code: Select all
Time Depth Score Positions Moves 0:00 1/3 13.99 4781 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Rd7+ Kxd7 3.Qxf7+ Kd6 4.Qxf6+ Kc5 5.Qe5+ Kb6 6.Qxe3+ c5 0:00 1/4 17.01 28884 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Qxc7+ Kd5 9.Nxh7 0:00 1/5 18.32 95220 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Re8+ Kf4 9.Ne6+ Kg3 10.Qg5+ Kh2 11.Nxc5 0:00 1/5 Mate08 112202 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/6 Mate08 148296 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/7 Mate08 304400 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate08 692755 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate07 1278179 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:00 2/9 Mate07 1399236 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:01 3/10 Mate07 3639655 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:04 4/11 Mate07 10290529 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7#
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Re: Compare your engine's performance
You're absolutely wrong. 1...Bd2 and 1...Bxh6 are identical.Chessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:15 amif 1 .... Bd2 black can be mated before 7amanjpro wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:08 amWhy do you think B×h6 is stronger than Bd2? They both delay the mate by the same exact amount...and that is what mattersChessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:05 amSoory, but King needs to go back to the drawling boards 1 Qe4 Bxh6!JVMerlino wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:53 am Well, ok, on the assumption that this is the actual position:
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
The King finds Mate in 7 in less than a second.Code: Select all
Time Depth Score Positions Moves 0:00 1/3 13.99 4781 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Rd7+ Kxd7 3.Qxf7+ Kd6 4.Qxf6+ Kc5 5.Qe5+ Kb6 6.Qxe3+ c5 0:00 1/4 17.01 28884 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Qxc7+ Kd5 9.Nxh7 0:00 1/5 18.32 95220 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Re8+ Kf4 9.Ne6+ Kg3 10.Qg5+ Kh2 11.Nxc5 0:00 1/5 Mate08 112202 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/6 Mate08 148296 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/7 Mate08 304400 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate08 692755 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate07 1278179 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:00 2/9 Mate07 1399236 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:01 3/10 Mate07 3639655 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:04 4/11 Mate07 10290529 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7#
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Re: Compare your engine's performance
You're right, I got 7 on Bd2 as well. I thought it was in my 6 list.JVMerlino wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:37 amYou're absolutely wrong. 1...Bd2 and 1...Bxh6 are identical.Chessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:15 amif 1 .... Bd2 black can be mated before 7amanjpro wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:08 amWhy do you think B×h6 is stronger than Bd2? They both delay the mate by the same exact amount...and that is what mattersChessnut1071 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:05 amSoory, but King needs to go back to the drawling boards 1 Qe4 Bxh6!JVMerlino wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:53 am Well, ok, on the assumption that this is the actual position:
[d]5k2/ppp2r1p/2p2ppP/8/2Q5/2P1bN2/PP4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 1
The King finds Mate in 7 in less than a second.Code: Select all
Time Depth Score Positions Moves 0:00 1/3 13.99 4781 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Rd7+ Kxd7 3.Qxf7+ Kd6 4.Qxf6+ Kc5 5.Qe5+ Kb6 6.Qxe3+ c5 0:00 1/4 17.01 28884 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Qxc7+ Kd5 9.Nxh7 0:00 1/5 18.32 95220 1.Rd8+ Ke7 2.Qd3 f5 3.Rg8 Bc5 4.Qd8+ Ke6 5.Ng5+ Ke5 6.Nxf7+ Ke6 7.Ng5+ Ke5 8.Re8+ Kf4 9.Ne6+ Kg3 10.Qg5+ Kh2 11.Nxc5 0:00 1/5 Mate08 112202 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/6 Mate08 148296 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/7 Mate08 304400 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate08 692755 1.Qe6 Bxh6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Ne5 fxe5 4.Qxe5+ Rf6 5.Rd7+ Kg8 6.Qxf6 c5 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.Qxh7# 0:00 1/8 Mate07 1278179 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:00 2/9 Mate07 1399236 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:01 3/10 Mate07 3639655 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7# 0:04 4/11 Mate07 10290529 1.Qe4 Bd2 2.Rxd2 Re7 3.Rd8+ Kf7 4.Qc4+ Re6 5.Rd7+ Kf8 6.Qxe6 f5 7.Qf7#