Fritz 18 still without NNUE?

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Re: Fritz 18 still without NNUE?

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Horrible results for a program sold for 80€ with a GUI never changed since Fritz 11. It isn't enough for serious chess engine fans and occasional players prefer programs like Chess Master https://www.chessprogramming.org/Chessmaster , Battle chess https://giochiabandonware.com/battle-chess/ https://giochiabandonware.com/chessmaster-3000/ (Chessmaster 3000 & Battlechess are abandonwares)

...or the actual very interesting SparkChess to simply play for free online or with a random Android, iOS, Mac or PC app with nice graphic https://www.sparkchess.com

PS: Thank you to all open source FREE engines authors. You have changed Computer Chess History :lol:

Uh.. Chessbase, Chessbase :roll:
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AlexChess wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 pm Image

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Horrible results for a program sold for 80€ with a GUI never changed since Fritz 11.
Clearly, you haven't used Fritz since version 11, especially the latest version 18 which is PACKED with innovations. :roll:
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AlexChess wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 pm Horrible results for a program sold for 80€ with a GUI never changed since Fritz 11.
The GUI has changed significantly from Fritz 11 to Fritz 12, making the program look like modern Microsoft Office programs with the ribbons.
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Re: Fritz 18 still without NNUE?

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Sorry to ask. Out of all Fritz engines which GUI is the best.
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Re: Fritz 18 still without NNUE?

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Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:53 pm Sorry to ask. Out of all Fritz engines which GUI is the best.
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Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:53 pm Sorry to ask. Out of all Fritz engines which GUI is the best.
Absolutely BanksiaGui, even in beta. Win, Mac, Linux, iPadOS, iOS you can change look as you like, organize all infos moving, resizing, removing frames and it's full of features (especially related to engine tournaments management) that no other gui has. Eg which games to run first in the tournament when you add a new engine.

https://banksiagui.com/
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Re: Fritz 18 still without NNUE?

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BrendanJNorman wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:38 pm
AlexChess wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 pm Image

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Horrible results for a program sold for 80€ with a GUI never changed since Fritz 11.
Clearly, you haven't used Fritz since version 11, especially the latest version 18 which is PACKED with innovations. :roll:
Cosmetic changes? New interface colors? :wink:
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Re: Fritz 18 still without NNUE?

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AlexChess wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:34 pm
BrendanJNorman wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:38 pm
AlexChess wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 pm Image

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Horrible results for a program sold for 80€ with a GUI never changed since Fritz 11.
Clearly, you haven't used Fritz since version 11, especially the latest version 18 which is PACKED with innovations. :roll:
Cosmetic changes? New interface colors? :wink:
You are kidding right?? :lol:
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In the words of one of our most popular present day philosophers, Taylor Swift: "Haters will hate". :oops:
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Re: Fritz 18 still without NNUE?

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AlexChess wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:31 pm
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:53 pm Sorry to ask. Out of all Fritz engines which GUI is the best.
Absolutely BanksiaGui, even in beta. Win, Mac, Linux, iPadOS, iOS you can change look as you like, organize all infos moving, resizing, removing frames and it's full of features (especially related to engine tournaments management) that no other gui has. Eg which games to run first in the tournament when you add a new engine.

https://banksiagui.com/
To be fair, Fritz and Banksia are targeted at very different users. If you are running engine testing, Banksia has lots to offer. If you play against humans, Banksia has some useful features, but that part is far less mature than its engine vs engine feature set.
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