Reboot: rook odds match, human vs engines.

[Chessqueen]

Hi.

Now, the first game against Komodo, taking the h1 rook.
According to the pgn, after move 39 Komodo lost on time.
BUT:
1. I thought engines did not lose on time (certainly not with a 10 second increment).
2. Banksia shows White with still 13 seconds on its clock (I had 3:03 in the final position).
I do NOT feel satisfied winning on time. Especially, since the game was getting interesting, I had just sacrificed my queen for a rook and knight.
I still had material advantage (two rooks and a knight for the queen), as well as an excellent position (at least according to me), but there is still a very long way until checkmate.
¿How can I continue the game? From that position, with the remaining clock times.

[pgn]
[Event "banksia game"]
[Site "*"]
[Date "2022.06.12"]
[Round "*"]
[White "Komodo 13.02 64-bit"]
[Black "hm::Garcia Ruvalcaba, Jose de Jesus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[Time "16:56:06"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBN1 w Qkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "timeout"]

1. d4 {-4.43/22 36747 24728476} 1... Nf6 2. c4 {-4.42/24 49093 41684569} 2... c5
3. d5 {-4.04/25 31180 23059479} 3... b5 4. cxb5 {-4.11/22 16054 9380095} 4... a6
5. bxa6 {-4.16/24 40934 35126018} 5... Bxa6 6. Nc3 {-4.14/24 43324 36656070}
6... d6 7. e4 {-4.27/25 91929 79860585} 7... Bxf1 8. Kxf1 {-3.91/25 22210
19712586} 8... g6 9. Nge2 {-4.00/25 13271 28191688} 9... Bg7 10. Rb1 {-4.02/23
35567 44957840} 10... O-O 11. g3 {-4.18/25 40863 61974886} 11... Na6 12. Kg2
{-4.15/24 27930 26116971} 12... Qd7 13. f3 {-4.16/26 51886 48280440} 13... Rfb8
14. a3 {-4.33/25 130192 123747809} 14... Nc7 15. a4 {-4.60/23 7655 22233325}
15... Na6 16. Be3 {-4.39/25 57032 55087104} 16... Nb4 17. b3 {-4.44/27 38588
47098521} 17... Qb7 18. Nb5 {-3.99/24 25719 24321964} 18... Ne8 19. Bf4
{-4.42/27 40693 82731936} 19... Nc7 20. Na3 {-4.45/24 31873 23588213} 20... Nba6
21. Nc4 {-3.25/25 26220 22729819} 21... Nb4 22. Bg5 {-4.03/24 38872 37605522}
22... Ne8 23. Bd2 {-3.82/26 72974 68712835} 23... Nf6 24. Bg5 {-3.66/27 39999
38781732} 24... Kf8 25. Nc3 {-3.56/26 26702 26024770} 25... Nd7 26. Nb5
{-3.67/26 14688 14387366} 26... Nb6 27. Nd2 {-3.70/25 33046 31711482} 27... Na6
28. Bf4 {-3.61/24 33938 32848355} 28... Nc7 29. Na3 {-4.09/24 15529 14452745}
29... Qa6 30. Ndc4 {-4.38/27 10 54763829} 30... Nxc4 31. Nxc4 {-4.70/25 18568
23693505} 31... Ne8 32. Na3 {-4.33/24 54337 52279312} 32... Nf6 33. g4 {-4.57/23
10 20639186} 33... Nd7 34. Bg3 {-4.67/24 10 26619760} 34... Ne5 35. f4 {-4.65/23
15203 15577540} 35... Nd3 36. Nc4 {-3.48/23 13799 13173972} 36... Nb4 37. f5
{-3.69/22 1526 9928697} 37... Na2 38. fxg6 {-3.68/23 17314 17544302} 38... hxg6
39. Qf3 {-3.28/24 10782 9612257} 39... Qxc4 {White forfeits on time} 0-1
[/pgn]

I will try to finish this game in a satisfactory way.
Any technical help to achieve it within Banksia is appreciated.

Greetings.

Here instructions on youtube how to use Arena GUI

[Chessqueen]

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.06.20"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish_22050407_x64_avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Time "14:01:07"]
[WhiteElo "3565"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPP1PPPP/RN1QKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "105"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]



1. e4 Nc6 2. Nc3 e5 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Qd3 Bb4 5. O-O-O Bxc3 6. Qxc3 Nxe4 7. Qe3
Nf6 8. Nf3 Ng4 9. Qd2 d6 10. Ng5 O-O 11. h4 Nf6 12. f3 Bf5 13. g4 Bd7 14.
Rde1 Nd4 15. c3 Nc6 16. Bb3 h6 17. Rhg1 hxg5 18. hxg5 Nh7 19. f4 exf4 20.
Rh1 Qxg5 21. Rh5 Qxg4 22. Reh1 Bf5 23. Rxf5 Qxf5 24. Bc2 Qg6 25. Bxg6 fxg6
26. Qd5+ Kh8 27. Qe6 Ne5 28. Qh3 Kg8 29. Qxh7+ Kf7 30. Qh2 f3 31. Kd1 Ke6
32. b4 g5 33. Qg3 Rf5 34. Qf2 d5 35. Kc2 a6 36. Re1 Rh8 37. c4 dxc4 38. a4
Kf6 39. b5 Rf4 40. Qc5 Rh2+ 41. Kc3 Re2 42. Rf1 axb5 43. axb5 c6 44. Qd6+
Kf5 45. Qf8+ Kg6 46. Qe7 f2 47. Qe6+ Kh7 48. Rh1+ Rh4 49. Rd1 Re1 50. Qf5+
g6 51. Rd7+ Nxd7 52. Qxf2 Rd1 53. bxc6 bxc6 54. Kb4 Rhd4 55. Qf7+ Kh6 56.
Qe8 c5+ 57. Kb5 g4 58. Ka6 R1d2 59. Kb5 Rc2 60. Qe7 c3[/pgn]

[pepechuy]

I played this game yesterday using Arena3.5.1 Gui Komodo 13.2 Contempt = 150, I believe that a Rook is too much of an Odd, and once you figured out how to beat it, it becomes routine, I will send this game to my online trainer GM Igor
Computer: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.40 GHz 16.0 GB
[pgn][Event "Komodo Rook a1 Odds"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.06.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo-13.02-64bit-bmi2"]
[Black "Picado"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Time "21:22:05"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. Nf3 d5 2. Nc3 d4 3. Nb5 e5 4. Nxe5 Nc6 5. Nf3 a6 6. Na3 Bg4 7. Nc4 Nf6
8. b3 Be7 9. Nce5 Nxe5 10. Nxe5 Bh5 11. Bb2 c5 12. c3 Qd6 13. Nc4 Qf4 14.
f3 Ne4 15. Qc2 Bh4+ 16. g3 Nxg3 17. Kd1 Nxh1 18. cxd4 cxd4 19. Nb6 Rd8 20.
Kc1 O-O 21. Kb1 Qxh2 22. Qc1 Ng3 23. Ba3 Rfe8 24. e3 dxe3 25. dxe3 Nxf1 26.
Qxf1 Bg6+ 27. e4 Rxe4 28. fxe4 Bf6 29. Qd3 Rxd3 30. Bc1 Rxb3+ 31. axb3
Bxe4# *[/pgn]

Hi.

I think, when I was a younger I played better than now; and a rook would have been enough to almost always win.
But now, it is hit or miss for me. If I do not blunder, I win.
After a blunder, I usually loss (even if the position is still objectively better for me).
Of course, there are some draws.

Greetings.

[pepechuy]

Jose Garcia Most chess trainers do NOT teach you how to deal with Nervousness and Anxiety, but it is a very important subject even when you play against an engine. Do you feel a lot of pressure when you play versus an engine too? It is a very important issue when you have to play in tournaments against human opponents. ==>

Hi.

I would not say I get "nervous" during these challenges, but I do feel some pressure... just because I am publishing the games (it also makes them more exciting).
I am an experienced tournament player; but with old experience.
My last over the board tournament was on 2016. Before that, I played two tournaments in 2009.
Ah, but when I was in grade school, I played in every tournament I could. Easily over 50 tournament games at standard time controls every year.

Oh, I have already installed Arena and LucasChess (besides Winboard and Banksia). I need some time to figure out how to do exactly what I want to do.

Greetings.

[Chessqueen]

Jose Garcia Most chess trainers do NOT teach you how to deal with Nervousness and Anxiety, but it is a very important subject even when you play against an engine. Do you feel a lot of pressure when you play versus an engine too? It is a very important issue when you have to play in tournaments against human opponents. ==>

Hi.

I would not say I get "nervous" during these challenges, but I do feel some pressure... just because I am publishing the games (it also makes them more exciting).
I am an experienced tournament player; but with old experience.
My last over the board tournament was on 2016. Before that, I played two tournaments in 2009.
Ah, but when I was in grade school, I played in every tournament I could. Easily over 50 tournament games at standard time controls every year.

Oh, I have already installed Arena and LucasChess (besides Winboard and Banksia). I need some time to figure out how to do exactly what I want to do.

Greetings.

There are lots of instructions on youtube like this one Here instructions on youtube how to use Arena GUIhttps://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ho ... e+in+Arena simply type what instructions you are looking for to learn it from youtube

[Chessqueen]

Arena 3.5.1 GUI, This is almost like a Rook Odds, as far as I am concern

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.06.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ProteusSF-RBE-008b-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Time "13:20:47"]
[WhiteElo "3550"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "139"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. Bg5 Nc6 2. Bb5 a6 3. Bxc6 bxc6 4. Qe2 Bb7 5. O-O-O d5 6. f4 h6 7. Bh4
Qd7 8. Nf3 e6 9. Ne5 Qc8 10. Qh5 g6 11. Nxg6 fxg6 12. Qxg6+ Kd7 13. Qf7+
Be7 14. f5 Qe8 15. Qxe6+ Kd8 16. Rde1 Bc8 17. Qe5 Rh7 18. f6 Nxf6 19. Bxf6
Rf7 20. Rhf1 Bd7 21. Qd4 Rxf6 22. Rxf6 Qh8 23. Rf4 Qxd4 24. Rxd4 Rb8 25. b3
Bf6 26. Rdd1 Rb4 27. Rf1 Bg5+ 28. Kb1 Re4 29. Rf7 Re2 30. Rdf1 Rxg2 31. Rg7
Rxh2 32. b4 Re2 33. Kb2 Re8 34. c3 Be6 35. a4 Kc8 36. Re1 Bf4 37. Rg2 Bg5
38. Rge2 Kd7 39. Rf1 Kd6 40. c4 dxc4 41. Rd1+ Ke7 42. Re4 Bf6+ 43. Kc1 Kf7
44. Rf1 Rg8 45. Ref4 Rg6 46. R4f2 Kg7 47. Rd1 Bc3 48. Rd8 Bxb4 49. Re8 Rg1+
50. Kb2 c3+ 51. Kc2 Bf7 52. Rc8 Bg6+ 53. Kb3 Rb1+ 54. Kc4 Ba5 55. Ra8 Rb4+
56. Kc5 Bd3 57. Kxc6 Be4+ 58. Kc5 c2 59. Rxc2 Rb6 60. Rxa6 Rxa6 61. Rh2 Be1
62. Kc4 Rxa4+ 63. Kb3 Ra8 64. Rh3 Rb8+ 65. Ka4 Bb4 66. Kb3 Bd6+ 67. Kc3 Ra8
68. Rh4 Re8 69. Kc4 Bg6 70. Kd5 Re5+ 71. Kd4 Re2 72. Kc3 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

Arena 3.5.1 GUI, This is almost like a Rook Odds, as far as I am concern, but I got destroyed this time
[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.06.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ProteusSF-RBE-008b-avx2"]
[Black "Picado"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Time "18:16:20"]
[WhiteElo "3565"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "79"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. Bg5 h6 2. Bh4 g5 3. Bg3 Bg7 4. Bc4 Bxb2 5. Ne2 Bxa1 6. Qxa1 Nf6 7. O-O
d5 8. Rd1 O-O 9. h4 e6 10. hxg5 Ng4 11. gxh6 Nxh6 12. Bb3 Nf5 13. c4 Qe7
14. Bc2 dxc4 15. Re1 Nxg3 16. Nxg3 Qb4 17. Qf6 Qxe1+ 18. Kh2 Qa1 19. Qxa1
f5 20. Qc1 f4 21. Nh5 Nc6 22. Nxf4 e5 23. Nd5 Rf7 24. Qg5+ Rg7 25. Bh7+ Kh8
26. Bg6 Kg8 27. Bh7+ Kh8 28. Bg6 Kg8 29. Nf6+ Kf8 30. Qh6 Be6 31. Nh5 Ke7
32. Nxg7 Bd7 33. Qh4+ Kd6 34. Qxc4 Rf8 35. Be4 Rf4 36. f3 Rh4+ 37. Kg1 Rh8
38. Qb3 a5 39. Qa3+ Nb4 40. Qxa5 c5 {User Adjudication} *[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

[quote=Chessqueen post_id=928571 time=1655855902 user_id=10732]
Arena 3.5.1 GUI, This is almost like a Rook Odds, as far as I am concern, finally after losing 6 straight games against Proteus with this position, I figured out how to beat it

[pgn][Event "Knight+ 2 Pawns Odds"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.06.23"]
[Round "7"]
[White "ProteusSF-RBE-008b-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Time "19:33:30"]
[WhiteElo "3505"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. Bg5 Nf6 2. Bxf6 gxf6 3. Qh5 d5 4. O-O-O e5 5. f4 Nc6 6. Bc4 Nd4 7. Rxd4
exd4 8. Bxd5 Qd7 9. Nf3 c5 10. Re1+ Kd8 11. Qh4 Rg8 12. Qxf6+ Kc7 13. Bxf7
Rxg2 14. Re8 Bg7 15. Qh4 Qd6 16. Qe7+ Qxe7 17. Rxe7+ Kd6 18. Re1 Rf2 19.
Nd2 Rxf4 20. Bc4 Rh4 21. Ne4+ Kc6 22. a4 Rxh2 23. Bd3 Bg4 24. Ng3 Rf8 25.
Kb1 Rh3 26. Ne4 Re3 27. Rg1 h5 28. Nd2 b6 29. Bb5+ Kc7 30. Bd3 Re7 31. Rh1
Bf6 32. Rg1 Bd7 33. a5 bxa5 34. Ne4 Kb6 35. Nd2 a4 36. b3 axb3 37. cxb3 h4
38. Kc2 h3 39. Rf1 h2 40. Rh1 Rh8 41. Nc4+ Kc7 42. Na5 Bg4 43. Nc4 Bf3 44.
Rf1 h1=Q 45. Rxh1 Rxh1 46. b4 Bd5 47. b5 Rh2+ 48. Nd2 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

[shadyantra]

Sometimes, I feel after 10 years, where the engines will stand?. May be elo 10k

Currently, I feel humans can beat engines in full potential in Persian Chess. There is a tussle between Stockfiah vs Chessbase for using Stockfish code. The scope of n types of engines means normal players will be confused.

[Chessqueen]

Sometimes, I feel after 10 years, where the engines will stand?. May be elo 10k

Many people agreed perfect chess Elo is between 4500 - 5500. But you have to specify rating with time scaling. As in general rule the rating decrease with higher time control as the lower rated player make less mistake with time. To be specific a 3475 rated engine will make less mistake against Stockfish given more time control than if the game is played at T/C of 1/2. Lets take for instance Rubichess, it will perform better against Stockfish if you allow the T/C to be 30 minutes per move, than if the entire game in played in 60 seconds or Blitz at T/C of 1 minute, in such time control of 30 minutes per move Rubichess will give Stockfish a hell of a fight avoiding most tactical blunders which only happens at Blitz between engines.