mclane wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2026 7:28 pm
Exactly Norman.
BTW good to see / read from you again.
Chris W. has IMO not changed from the beginning of his career as chess programmer until today.
A solid appearance.
I remember to have found very long time ago, in the help files of superchess, detailed explanations which algorithms and evaluations he implemented.
Public. To all customers.
He never made a secret out of his efforts.
And this was 8 bit days in the early 80ies.
It was even before i met C.W. For the first time. I began with Atari ST versions.
But even long before that, Chris W. Made it all clear and public what his target and ambitions were.
1:1 his whole life.
Good grief!
Otherwise: no hint in the actual release-notes on the gittihub or the whittingonsite on the matter (bad/other nets/compiling problems/switched versions or so). Just progress.
mclane wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2026 7:28 pm
Exactly Norman.
BTW good to see / read from you again.
Chris W. has IMO not changed from the beginning of his career as chess programmer until today.
A solid appearance.
I remember to have found very long time ago, in the help files of superchess, detailed explanations which algorithms and evaluations he implemented.
Public. To all customers.
He never made a secret out of his efforts.
And this was 8 bit days in the early 80ies.
It was even before i met C.W. For the first time. I began with Atari ST versions.
But even long before that, Chris W. Made it all clear and public what his target and ambitions were.
1:1 his whole life.
Good grief!
Otherwise: no hint in the actual release-notes on the gittihub or the whittingonsite on the matter (bad/other nets/compiling problems/switched versions or so). Just progress.
Ta!
Are you my employer? Do we have a contract? Am I being paid or something? No, I do it for fun, because I like. If all you want to do is whinge, the answer is simple.
“cpeters” or whatever other alias this entity uses is hereby denied any licence to use, download, copy in any way in any form on any media any and all material written in part or in full by Chris Whittington.
No Chess System Tal for you, “cpeters”. Have a nice day.
mclane wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2026 7:28 pm
Exactly Norman.
BTW good to see / read from you again.
Chris W. has IMO not changed from the beginning of his career as chess programmer until today.
A solid appearance.
I remember to have found very long time ago, in the help files of superchess, detailed explanations which algorithms and evaluations he implemented.
Public. To all customers.
He never made a secret out of his efforts.
And this was 8 bit days in the early 80ies.
It was even before i met C.W. For the first time. I began with Atari ST versions.
But even long before that, Chris W. Made it all clear and public what his target and ambitions were.
1:1 his whole life.
Good grief!
Otherwise: no hint in the actual release-notes on the gittihub or the whittingonsite on the matter (bad/other nets/compiling problems/switched versions or so). Just progress.
Ta!
Are you my employer? Do we have a contract? Am I being paid or something? No, I do it for fun, because I like. If all you want to do is whinge, the answer is simple.
“cpeters” or whatever other alias this entity uses is hereby denied any licence to use, download, copy in any way in any form on any media any and all material written in part or in full by Chris Whittington.
No Chess System Tal for you, “cpeters”. Have a nice day.
We spoiled them.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
What is it with your obsession to deny me 'personally' a license (a second time??)? I don't need your license, as I do not intend to use your 'software'.
For the third time: No windows here/elso no reason for your 'program'.
Understood?
But I do use Patricia (I think it may have been referrenced here or elsewhere). Very nice behaving. Reliable and fun. On Linux. Android and MacOS.
Cheers.
N.B.
If all you want to do is whinge [...]
Whinge?
I did hint at a functionality-feature on the github site you use and you may have overlooked: "Release" notes. Make them meaningful for your users. Not whinging. Hinting. At functionality.
mclane wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2026 7:28 pm
Exactly Norman.
BTW good to see / read from you again.
Chris W. has IMO not changed from the beginning of his career as chess programmer until today.
A solid appearance.
I remember to have found very long time ago, in the help files of superchess, detailed explanations which algorithms and evaluations he implemented.
Public. To all customers.
He never made a secret out of his efforts.
And this was 8 bit days in the early 80ies.
It was even before i met C.W. For the first time. I began with Atari ST versions.
But even long before that, Chris W. Made it all clear and public what his target and ambitions were.
1:1 his whole life.
Good grief!
Otherwise: no hint in the actual release-notes on the gittihub or the whittingonsite on the matter (bad/other nets/compiling problems/switched versions or so). Just progress.
Ta!
Are you my employer? Do we have a contract? Am I being paid or something? No, I do it for fun, because I like. If all you want to do is whinge, the answer is simple.
“cpeters” or whatever other alias this entity uses is hereby denied any licence to use, download, copy in any way in any form on any media any and all material written in part or in full by Chris Whittington.
No Chess System Tal for you, “cpeters”. Have a nice day.
We spoiled them.
Who is "we"? You?
In any case, the "we"/you didn't spoil me.
Glaurung, crafty, ivanhoe then stockfish, patricia, reckless and maybe twenty others did. GUIs alike: xboard, scid, en-croissant etc.. Free and open source software. Available on multiple platforms and operating systems - mobile and @home.
Graham Banks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:46 am
Question for Chris.
Which version with which net would you like me to include in my Amateur Series (also to go in the queue for a gauntlet)?
Hi Graham,
From my POV I’m not too interested in CSTal2 since all effort is going into CSTal3 right now. CSTal2 is been there, did that, forgot about it, but that’s typical of developers, always several steps on from the “release”. But to answer your question, Elo testing is most sensible on the Elo version, which I call CSTal2.07-E1019 and is the most CW of the engines.
I can’t answer directly for Ed, but it probably makes sense to test his EAS version since that is where he put his work and it is the most Ed version of the engines.
mclane wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2026 7:28 pm
Exactly Norman.
BTW good to see / read from you again.
Chris W. has IMO not changed from the beginning of his career as chess programmer until today.
A solid appearance.
I remember to have found very long time ago, in the help files of superchess, detailed explanations which algorithms and evaluations he implemented.
Public. To all customers.
He never made a secret out of his efforts.
And this was 8 bit days in the early 80ies.
It was even before i met C.W. For the first time. I began with Atari ST versions.
But even long before that, Chris W. Made it all clear and public what his target and ambitions were.
1:1 his whole life.
Good grief!
Otherwise: no hint in the actual release-notes on the gittihub or the whittingonsite on the matter (bad/other nets/compiling problems/switched versions or so). Just progress.
Ta!
Are you my employer? Do we have a contract? Am I being paid or something? No, I do it for fun, because I like. If all you want to do is whinge, the answer is simple.
“cpeters” or whatever other alias this entity uses is hereby denied any licence to use, download, copy in any way in any form on any media any and all material written in part or in full by Chris Whittington.
No Chess System Tal for you, “cpeters”. Have a nice day.
We spoiled them.
Off topic once again.
@cpeters, spew your hatred elsewhere, like you did in the German CSS forum, not here.
Remain on topic, a third time will not be tolerated.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
