Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

[Terry McCracken]

Having said that, I believe that FIDE, if they are really serious about cheating, should press charges legally. Even though this will cost them a great deal of money, it would send a very strong signal that this is something they take seriously, that it's a crime and that there are victims who must be protected. The next cheater would have to think twice.

According to this article,

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 30713.aspx

proper anti-cheating FIDE rules aren't even in place. In particular, no tangible punishment is stipulated for cheaters. This latter detail probably ties FIDE's hands from pursuing any punitive action at the moment, assuming they even gathered thorough evidence in this case, which in itself is doubtful.

Chess will be dead by 2020 if something isn't done. FIDE will drag it's heels writing up anti-cheating rules let alone implementation.

Terrible...

[mwyoung]

Having said that, I believe that FIDE, if they are really serious about cheating, should press charges legally. Even though this will cost them a great deal of money, it would send a very strong signal that this is something they take seriously, that it's a crime and that there are victims who must be protected. The next cheater would have to think twice.

According to this article,

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 30713.aspx

proper anti-cheating FIDE rules aren't even in place. In particular, no tangible punishment is stipulated for cheaters. This latter detail probably ties FIDE's hands from pursuing any punitive action at the moment, assuming they even gathered thorough evidence in this case, which in itself is doubtful.

Chess will be dead by 2020 if something isn't done. FIDE will drag it's heels writing up anti-cheating rules let alone implementation.

Terrible...

She said in her opinion Ivanov could not even be charged with fraud in Russia.
This issue is now pretty much over regarding Ivanov.

The real issue is Fide. We agree again.

[Terry McCracken]

Having said that, I believe that FIDE, if they are really serious about cheating, should press charges legally. Even though this will cost them a great deal of money, it would send a very strong signal that this is something they take seriously, that it's a crime and that there are victims who must be protected. The next cheater would have to think twice.

According to this article,

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 30713.aspx

proper anti-cheating FIDE rules aren't even in place. In particular, no tangible punishment is stipulated for cheaters. This latter detail probably ties FIDE's hands from pursuing any punitive action at the moment, assuming they even gathered thorough evidence in this case, which in itself is doubtful.

Chess will be dead by 2020 if something isn't done. FIDE will drag it's heels writing up anti-cheating rules let alone implementation.

Terrible...

She said in her opinion Ivanov could not even be charged with fraud in Russia.
This issue is now pretty much over regarding Ivanov.

The real issue is Fide. We agree again.

We don't agree on anything. Take your parade somewhere else. Don't troll me!

[MikeGL]

If I have just like Borislav Ivanov's hairdo I can also insert bluetooth device
in my ear without eveybody knowing it.
I can even put it in both ears left and right.


I guess one guy in an open tourn last 2006 was caught with electronic stuff in his ball cap,
with wires and communication equipment uncovered.

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During Philadelphia World Open 2006, Steve Rosenberg, who was playing in a lower section, was leading before the final round. A victory would have been worth about $18,000. He was confronted by a tournament director and found to be using a wireless transmitter and receiver called a "Phonito".
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http://www.phonak-communications.com/en ... nito-nano/
I think this was the one used by Rosenberg.

[Taner Altinsoy]

Ivanov misses BCF anti-cheating test

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 10713.aspx

[Don]

Ivanov misses BCF anti-cheating test

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 10713.aspx

I have a theory that Ivanov is using some sort of AI optical recognition software to recognize the board. His posture was noted to be really odd, very still and completely focused on a single pose looking at the board. It is possible now to decode moves from a physical board by camera which would allow him to be free of sending moves physically. An in-ear receiver would be easily hidden due to his long hair - and these devices are already invisible even without his long hair. The computing system could be in his pocket or his case.

Alignment of the camera could be handled by some sort of feedback system using the earpiece.

Think of what people have been saying - he posture is fixed and does not change, he will never look at his opponent or at the cameras in the playing hall - I think whatever system he is using is relatively fragile and not particularly flexible.

[Taner Altinsoy]

I wonder what kind of cheating detection tests they had in store for him for the planned meeting...

[Don]

Ivanov misses BCF anti-cheating test

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 10713.aspx

And he lost his lawsuit against the BCF according to the article. This is in a court of law I might add - since some here believe only court system are just.

[Don]

I wander what kind of cheating detection tests they had in store for him for the planned meeting...

They said it was very expensive to organize. So my guess is that it would be a chess performance test, perhaps fast chess against 2400+ players and they would probably have needed to pay some players to attend. Standard speed chess (5 minute sudden death) would be more than he could handle even with cheating gear but presumably he would be searched before the test begins. They could have GM's present to witness the games and they could videotape everything. It would have to consists of enough games to really make the point though, perhaps he would play at least 10 games. The games could be 3 minute games too.

Another possibility is simply that he is asked to explain his thinking process in the key points of his games to strong Grandmasters present and they would be free to ask him questions. I would expect that whatever the test was it would be videotaped and fully documented.

But one can imagine a lot of ways to conduct a performance based test.

The problem with such a test is that he can always claim he under-performed due to the pressure of a test bearing down upon him. In fact that is almost surely what would happen, he would fail the test and then claim it was unfair and that he was under pressure.

The fact that he tried to sue the BCF really puts him in another category of slime.

[reflectionofpower]

If the guy had showed up for the testing he could've validated his reputation but now with the allegations he has only painted himself into a cheater's corner.