Minic version 3

[Modern Times]

I'll add it my my chess960 testing queue

[Rebel]

Minic 3.14 for the GRL

Games : 1200

Elo Pool : 3166

http://rebel13.nl/b/grl.htm

[CMCanavessi]

Minic 3.14 is released with a new embedded net named "Nucleated Neurulation". This net was train only on FRC positions (2B data from previous net selfplay). Minic 3.14 is +30Elo better than 3.13 at selfplay but this does not always seem to hold versus more various opponents.

That +30Elo number is from regular chess? What about FRC? Do you expect more than +30, being that the net was trained exclusively on FRC?

[xr_a_y]

Minic 3.14 is released with a new embedded net named "Nucleated Neurulation". This net was train only on FRC positions (2B data from previous net selfplay). Minic 3.14 is +30Elo better than 3.13 at selfplay but this does not always seem to hold versus more various opponents.

That +30Elo number is from regular chess? What about FRC? Do you expect more than +30, being that the net was trained exclusively on FRC?

Yes at FRC +50Elo selfplay is seen.

[Werner]

Hi Vivien,
can I get an minic 3.16.exe for our tests ?

[xr_a_y]

Hi Vivien,
can I get an minic 3.16.exe for our tests ?

Hi,

Sorry for the double release in a short period of time.
The TCEC testing sessions are always a good way to spot some issues or get new ideas.

So Minic 3.16 is released (using same net as 3.14) and might be quite interesting :
- on older hardware (core2 and nehalem), one can expect at least a +40Elo boost
- skylake512 hardware now has a special executable that is really optimized for AVX512VL instruction set
- independently an optimization has been run on the NNUE evaluation scaling parameter (value 80 instead of 130) and this gives +20Elo versus 3.14 at short TC at least.

The binaries are there : https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Mini ... ter/Minic3

[xr_a_y]

Anyone has already tested this last avx512 build ? On TCEC hardware an issue is seen.

[Werner]

Hi Vivien,
just started a game 40/2 - no issuses
But inside command prompt I see no output after bench command.
2nd game started ok
both games lost against Koivisto 6.0

[xr_a_y]

Oh, "bench" in UCI mode !

because Minic's CLI bench

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minic bench 10

is working no ?

[Werner]

yes , but uci works in normal skylake compile (corrected)


and a 0-20 result against Clover 2.4 is not normal ?
there must be an issue

34 Minic 3.13NN x64 1CPU 3159
40 Clover 2.4 x64 1CPU 3141