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It hasn't - and I'm analysing the current position with Shredder 12, and after 7 mins, depth 20, it's evaluation is +0.55Matthias Gemuh wrote:I suggest that if this Nd6 has caused BigLion's score to drop by a full pawn or more, then BigLion is too unstable for us to continue.
... trying to save time and resources,
Matthias.
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actually the blunder would be if we played 16.dxc5 leaving us with two isolated pawnsSpock wrote:It hasn't - and I'm analysing the current position with Shredder 12, and after 7 mins, depth 20, it's evaluation is +0.55Matthias Gemuh wrote:I suggest that if this Nd6 has caused BigLion's score to drop by a full pawn or more, then BigLion is too unstable for us to continue.
... trying to save time and resources,
Matthias.
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I'm not sure why you think Nd6 is a blunder.
OK, I did overlook the simple fork because I thought BigLion had somehow gone nutsSteve B wrote:actually the blunder would be if we played 16.dxc5 leaving us with two isolated pawnsSpock wrote:
... I'm analysing the current position with Shredder 12, and after 7 mins, depth 20, it's evaluation is +0.55
I'm not sure why you think Nd6 is a blunder.
i think Matthias might have overlooked that BL can recapture the pawn with 16..Nxc5
and if 17.Bxg7 then 17..Nb3
Steve
The fork is no problem, actually it is either above BigLions horizon nowMatthias Gemuh wrote:OK, I did overlook the simple fork because I thought BigLion had somehow gone nuts :cry:Steve B wrote:actually the blunder would be if we played 16.dxc5 leaving us with two isolated pawnsSpock wrote:
... I'm analysing the current position with Shredder 12, and after 7 mins, depth 20, it's evaluation is +0.55
I'm not sure why you think Nd6 is a blunder.
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i think Matthias might have overlooked that BL can recapture the pawn with 16..Nxc5
and if 17.Bxg7 then 17..Nb3
Steve
I may change my 16.dxc5.
Matthias.
show me the "soon loss" for BL after 17..Nb3Guenther wrote:The fork is no problem, actually it is either above BigLions horizon nowMatthias Gemuh wrote:OK, I did overlook the simple fork because I thought BigLion had somehow gone nutsSteve B wrote:actually the blunder would be if we played 16.dxc5 leaving us with two isolated pawnsSpock wrote:
... I'm analysing the current position with Shredder 12, and after 7 mins, depth 20, it's evaluation is +0.55
I'm not sure why you think Nd6 is a blunder.
i think Matthias might have overlooked that BL can recapture the pawn with 16..Nxc5
and if 17.Bxg7 then 17..Nb3
Steve
I may change my 16.dxc5.
Matthias.
or the defense 16...Ne8 is still better than I thought.
16...Nxc5?? will lose soon if you analyse much further after the forced
17...Nb3?
Guenther
beyond BigLion's horizon ? The beast is hitting ply 16 in 10 hoursGuenther wrote:
The fork is no problem, actually it is either above BigLions horizon now
or the defense 16...Ne8 is still better than I thought.
16...Nxc5?? will lose soon if you analyse much further after the forced
17...Nb3?
Guenther
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I'd like to see the proposed line after 16.dc, Nxc5; 17.Bxg7, Nb3 also (remembering that after Black plays Nxc1, our bishop on e2 can be captured with check if we don't recapture immediately).Steve B wrote:show me the "soon loss" for BL after 17..Nb3Guenther wrote:
The fork is no problem, actually it is either above BigLions horizon now
or the defense 16...Ne8 is still better than I thought.
16...Nxc5?? will lose soon if you analyse much further after the forced
17...Nb3?
Guenther
Steve
Same HereGraham Banks wrote:I'd like to see the proposed line after 16.dc, Nxc5; 17.Bxg7, Nb3 also (remembering that after Black plays Nxc1, our bishop on e2 can be captured with check if we don't recapture immediately).Steve B wrote:show me the "soon loss" for BL after 17..Nb3Guenther wrote:
The fork is no problem, actually it is either above BigLions horizon now
or the defense 16...Ne8 is still better than I thought.
16...Nxc5?? will lose soon if you analyse much further after the forced
17...Nb3?
Guenther
Steve
Meanwhile my vote is for 16.d5 possibly followed up with Bd3.
I herewith switch to 16.d5Matthias Gemuh wrote: An inexplicable blunder
The game almost over.
16.dxc5
Matthias.