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Re: The Third Forum Game

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Graham Banks wrote:
gerold wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
tano-urayoan wrote:Sad but true Bf7

White could play Ng5 and later take in d5 so We must prevent this via or f7 or g8 and e6 protecting d5
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Yes, Ng5 could be more troublesome than Nd4, so I vote for h6.
After .......h6; Nd4 we should probably play Bc8 aiming to put it on b7. The rook on f6 then retains the option of coming into play either via f8 or along the sixth rank later.
The white knight on g3 is currently worthless and allows us more time to organise our pieces.

Happy to change my mind if somebody can come up with a good reason.
I would rather not open up the King side with h6. The Knight
will not hurt us there yet.
The action is on the Queen side now.
Bg8,Bb4.frees up the rook to move on file 6.
Of course this may change on what moves White makes.

Best.
Gerold.
I'm just wondering if we'd not be better off with the light squared bishop helping out on the queenside? At present it is quite useful covering the c8 square in the event of White doubling rooks.

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Graham.
Just hoping White will not double the Rooks.
I think the next few moves will involve the Knights
playing for position. :)
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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Graham Banks wrote: Yes, Ng5 could be more troublesome than Nd4, so I vote for h6.
After .......h6; Nd4 we should probably play Bc8 aiming to put it on b7. The rook on f6 then retains the option of coming into play either via f8 or along the sixth rank later.
The white knight on g3 is currently worthless and allows us more time to organise our pieces.

Happy to change my mind if somebody can come up with a good reason.
You are right about the knight in g3 but after h6 white could play Ne2 intending Nd4 and maybe later Nc6.
Now the bishop in e6 could not move because the d pawn is hanging.
We could not move our knight because Bc6 attacks the Rook in a8 and the d5 pawn.
Also moving the bishop in d6 allows Nf4 more problems,
so which move should be made?
What you think of this?
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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tano-urayoan wrote:
Graham Banks wrote: Yes, Ng5 could be more troublesome than Nd4, so I vote for h6.
After .......h6; Nd4 we should probably play Bc8 aiming to put it on b7. The rook on f6 then retains the option of coming into play either via f8 or along the sixth rank later.
The white knight on g3 is currently worthless and allows us more time to organise our pieces.

Happy to change my mind if somebody can come up with a good reason.
You are right about the knight in g3 but after h6 white could play Ne2 intending Nd4 and maybe later Nc6.
Now the bishop in e6 could not move because the d pawn is hanging.
We could not move our knight because Bc6 attacks the Rook in a8 and the d5 pawn.
Also moving the bishop in d6 allows Nf4 more problems,
so which move should be made?
What you think of this?
After .........h6; Ne2 we could play Rf8. Then if Ned4, how about ....Bf7; Nc6 (Rdc1 is probably more worrying), Nxc6; Bxc6, Rc8.
As I mentioned previously, we need to make sure that the square c6 can't be used as an entry point that eventually allows a white rook to infiltrate following exchanges.
What do you think. I could have missed something?

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Graham.
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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Graham Banks wrote: After .........h6; Ne2 we could play Rf8. Then if Ned4, how about ....Bf7; Nc6 (Rdc1 is probably more worrying), Nxc6; Bxc6, Rc8.
As I mentioned previously, we need to make sure that the square c6 can't be used as an entry point that eventually allows a white rook to infiltrate following exchanges.
What do you think. I could have missed something?

Cheers,
Graham.
Allowing a white knight to go to b5 could also be annoying for us, so perhaps we need to play a6 in there somewhere.
In fact I think we should play ......a6; Ba4, and then h6.
I'm changing my vote to a6.
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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Well ...h6, Ne2 Rf8, Bd7 and we will have some problems making moves
What is your thought?
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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well a6 Ba4, h6 Ne2, Rf8 Ned4 Bf7 Bc7 and again we have difficulties.
We need another move instead of h6.
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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.....a6; Ba4, h6; Ne2, Rf8; Ned4, Bf7; Bd7, Ra7?
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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so maybe Ne5 instead of Bd7
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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tano-urayoan wrote:so maybe Ne5 instead of Bd7
Okay. Perhaps Gerold is right in suggesting we play Bg8, but I still think we should play a6 first to cover the b5 square?
Only downside against playing a6 is that if a White rook gets to c6, it will cause problems. But a knight on b5 could be a pain too.
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Re: The Third Forum Game

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Changing vote to: a6