CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
gerold wrote:
tano-urayoan wrote:Our kingside position is a standard one , knight in f3, bishop in e2 and a pawn in h3, and e3 where is the problem?
To many pieces blocked and pawns advanced to far.
While BL has all pawns on King side in place with major pieces
ready to attack or block whites advances.

Best .

Gerold.
I really wish we had played dxc5. I honestly think that we would be winning by now. The fork was not an issue and all our pieces were pointing along the long diagonals at the king.

Now that the move has past perhaps we could analyse it?

I think a5 is nice now because we expose any weakness in BL's flank play. It is also quite progressive (to me anyway - moving forward as Steve says).

:)

Christopher
the problem or perhaps "charm" of these type of games is that not everytime does the best move get played..but rather the move with the most votes
i stopped recommending the "a" pawn push because it got voted down so often i just gave up on it
i was none-too- happy with several moves in this game but i just deal with the cards we are played and go on from there
in a way we are all playing two games..one against BL and another where we have to deal with the move that wins the vote

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Steve
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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tano-urayoan wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:16....f6 was expected really. A good multi-purpose move.
I'm voting for 17.Nd2, clearing the way for a probable f4.
Graham you don't think is best to undermine f6 via e4 e5, so the knight will be better placed in f3?
We can't play e4 straight away, but it is an option to consider as a follow up to Nd2.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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gerold wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:a5 the misdirectionists move.

:)

Christopher
Ok so i will switch my vote to a5.

White is losing this game to BL.

Maybe playing to a5 will give white
a chance to get better position on the King side.

Best.

Gerold.
What is the point behind a5? It just weakens our queenside,
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Graham Banks wrote:
gerold wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:a5 the misdirectionists move.

:)

Christopher
Ok so i will switch my vote to a5.

White is losing this game to BL.

Maybe playing to a5 will give white
a chance to get better position on the King side.

Best.

Gerold.
What is the point behind a5? It just weakens our queenside,
Queen side is weak now. So pushing a5 will break up BL
3 strong pawns on Q side. Maybe. Also BL may have to
bring the N over to deal with Q side.
Next White pushes the d and e pawn for attack down the
middle.

Best.

Gerold.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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OK, so we have a tie currently

Nd2 - Graham, Matthias, Andranik
a5 - Christopher, Gerold, Sven
Bd3 - Steve, Tano

So the voting remains open. I'll see if Wael or Swami can vote

A reminder of current position

[d] q1br1rk1/ppbnp1pp/3n1p2/2pP4/P1P5/2B1PN1P/2N1BPP1/Q1R2RK1 w - -
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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I'm off to work soon, so let's leave the vote open for another 12 hrs and I'll see what has happened when I get home. I PMd Wael and Swami to see if they can vote :wink:
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Spock wrote:I'm off to work soon, so let's leave the vote open for another 12 hrs and I'll see what has happened when I get home. I PMd Wael and Swami to see if they can vote :wink:
if no one else votes to break the tie by the time you return..you can change my vote to ...

17.a5 Regards
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Steve B wrote: if no one else votes to break the tie by the time you return..you can change my vote to ...

17.a5 Regards
Steve
I'd rather avoid people having to change their vote but it does become necessary if all else fails, in order to move on. Let's see if any more votes come in.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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a5 is a pointless move. It puts the pawn on a less protected square where it can potentially be attacked. What is your follow up? What is the plan?

We have nothing to do in the Q-side. We have blocked black's counter-play there, now we need to push in the center and kingside and take advantage of our space and better piece placement.

As soon as we push f4, e4 and put the knights into, say, e3 and f3, c1 rook on d1 or e1, we will have a decisive advantage.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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playjunior wrote:a5 is a pointless move. It puts the pawn on a less protected square where it can potentially be attacked. What is your follow up? What is the plan?

We have nothing to do in the Q-side. We have blocked black's counter-play there, now we need to push in the center and kingside and take advantage of our space and better piece placement.

As soon as we push f4, e4 and put the knights into, say, e3 and f3, c1 rook on d1 or e1, we will have a decisive advantage.
Agreed wholeheartedly. However, we have to respect that everybody will have their own thoughts, so as a team we have to take the bad with the good and vice-versa.
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