Or to even release the games played by the program.Uri Blass wrote:I do not believe people who claim that they do it when they refuse to release their program or to sell their program.
New Toga version: +200 elo??
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Ovyron
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
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Tony Thomas
Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
Can he not just post some games were an engine defeated Rybka 2.3.2 and edit the headers?Ovyron wrote:Or to even release the games played by the program.Uri Blass wrote:I do not believe people who claim that they do it when they refuse to release their program or to sell their program.
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
This procedure takes some time, the games have to be unpublished, so it's not an easy taskTony Thomas wrote:Can he not just post some games were an engine defeated Rybka 2.3.2 and edit the headers?Ovyron wrote:Or to even release the games played by the program.Uri Blass wrote:I do not believe people who claim that they do it when they refuse to release their program or to sell their program.
But we all appreciated your resilient mind
regards,
Geno
take it easy 
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
Chessbase has a better Law department!Tony Thomas wrote:Why would he be worried about that?Ovyron wrote:He claims that releasing his freeware engines will hurt Rybka 3 sales...kranium wrote:he also said- 'I could not release it for obvious reasons'
why not?
i'm puzzled.
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
Hi Rolf
As always, an original point of view.
Is your opinion based on some facts?
regards,
Geno
As always, an original point of view.
Is your opinion based on some facts?
regards,
Geno
take it easy 
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
Can you elaborate what the release of an open sourced program has to do with the ChessBase law departmentRolf wrote:Chessbase has a better Law department!Tony Thomas wrote:Why would he be worried about that?Ovyron wrote:He claims that releasing his freeware engines will hurt Rybka 3 sales...kranium wrote:he also said- 'I could not release it for obvious reasons'
why not?
i'm puzzled.
Following your logic,the author of Toga for example should have gotten a death sentence by now
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
The biggest nonsense causes the biggest threads.
It's a claim without any facts. I should simply be ignored.
It's a claim without any facts. I should simply be ignored.
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
If a clone is more than 120 elo better than its source, it may not be a clone anymore. It may be a new engine. (Rybka´s case)gerold wrote:Right on Toga.Marc MP wrote:Check this: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=5240![]()
Seeing is believing.![]()
I would be happy to test it as well as anyone else if it is 200 elo
improved.
That is a great improvement for a clone.
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
You got that right.Mike S. wrote:I should simply be ignored.
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Re: New Toga version: +200 elo??
If a clone is more than 120 elo improved than its source , giveslobo wrote:If a clone is more than 120 elo better than its source, it may not be a clone anymore. It may be a new engine. (Rybka´s case)gerold wrote:Right on Toga.Marc MP wrote:Check this: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=5240![]()
Seeing is believing.![]()
I would be happy to test it as well as anyone else if it is 200 elo
improved.
That is a great improvement for a clone.
the author credit and rename it. It is than a legal clone
as in the case of (Toga)