Is it possible beat to Rybka in a bullet game ? Yes. It is.

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Re: Is it possible beat to Rybka in a bullet game ? Yes. It

Post by Graham Banks »

Nimzovik wrote:Once again u blatantly miss the issue. The win by time is NOT the issue. Sheeeesh. The blocked positions of Pablos's games is THE issue here. :roll: It highlights a certain fallacy of computer chess . Research some of Robert Hyatts posts. Your fanaticism is unnerving.
Being proud to claim such wins on time as marvellous victories is a bit over the top though, wouldn't you agree?
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Re: Is it possible beat to Rybka in a bullet game ? Yes. It

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Also since the topic has how to BEAT Rybka in a bullet game, then I expect to at least see a win on the board.A win on time in a drawn position does not interest me that much and does not show a real fallacy of computer chess.
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Re: Is it possible beat to Rybka in a bullet game ? Yes. It

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Nimzovik wrote:Once again u blatantly miss the issue. The win by time is NOT the issue. Sheeeesh. The blocked positions of Pablos's games is THE issue here. :roll: It highlights a certain fallacy of computer chess . Research some of Robert Hyatts posts. Your fanaticism is unnerving.
Sheeeesh,it looks that your understanding about what chess is and even more what computer chess represents is too limited....
Anyone can play these stupid closed positions....c3,d4,e3,etc.,note that I didn't write any idiot can play it and win on time once every 150-200 games using the ChessBase GUI bug....
Sheeeesh,I hope you understand now 8-)
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Re: Is it possible beat to Rybka in a bullet game ? Yes. It

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Cubeman wrote:Also since the topic has how to BEAT Rybka in a bullet game, then I expect to at least see a win on the board.A win on time in a drawn position does not interest me that much and does not show a real fallacy of computer chess.
Of course they do. The wins on time or the draws from Pablo are always achieved from totally lost positions.
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Re: Is it possible beat to Rybka in a bullet game ? Yes. It

Post by Nimzovik »

The claims of wins made by Palo are indeed a bit too much in a sense due to the time bug issue or what ever reason. However lets + ahem+ RESTATE that the issue of exploiting a programs ineptitude to play closed positions is THE ISSUE. As Hyatt indicates tho the programmers have to rely on monkey tricks themselves as they (the programs) can not make the switch to evaluate that they might indeed get a better (objectively speaking) position in closing a position and often continue with thier singlemindedness of thier particular style. Yes.....the header of this topic is can one beat Rybka.......however Pablo's name was mentioned subsequently that ergo gave me license to pursue the issue of Pablo. It will be interesting to try and bamboozle Rybka with anti computer chess tho.... Pablos's first attempts are unproductive. Perhaps I will try my hand as I have some ideas once I pick up a copy..... :wink:
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About Ryb ka 3, Anti-wall chess machine? Is possible too?

Post by Father »

Hello Alex.
Rybka 3, has a profile, where I am sure, his creatores, done an strong work, teaching to Rybka 3, who to destroy the Wall. I took many games before I made this game. I wonder If finally a Top Machine, will be close too impossible for human to draw or win it.
Best,
Pablo

Here the game:

:[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2008.08.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Haschme"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2042"]
[BlackElo "2620"]
[Annotator "RESTREPO,PABLO"]
[PlyCount "356"]
[EventDate "2008.08.08"]
[WhiteTeam "Rybka 3 32-bit: 15.0 ply; 105kN/s GenuineInte"]
[BlackTeam "Rybka 3 32-bit: 15.0 ply; 105kN/s GenuineInte"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {2} d5 {0} 2. e3 {0} Bf5 {0} 3. Bd3 {1} Bxd3 {0} 4. Qxd3 {1} Nc6 {0} 5.
f4 {1} e6 {-0.15/13 6} 6. c3 {(Sf3) 1} Qh4+ {-0.59/13 3} 7. g3 {1} Qh5 {
-0.54/14 3} 8. Qe2 {(Sd2) 1} Qxe2+ {-0.62/14 2} 9. Kxe2 {1} Nf6 {-0.58/15 2}
10. Nf3 {1} Ne7 {-0.57/15 4} 11. Nbd2 {(Tg1) 1} Nf5 {-0.53/15 9} 12. Nf1 {
(Tg1) 1} h5 {-0.82/12 3} 13. h4 {(S1d2) 2} c5 {-1.30/12 4} 14. Bd2 {(Kf2) 2} a5
{-1.19/10 3} 15. Rh3 {(a4) 1} Be7 {-1.38/10 2} 16. a3 {(Se5) 1} O-O {-1.49/10 3
} 17. Rd1 {2} Rfc8 {-1.55/12 5} 18. Be1 {(Sg5) 1} Ra6 {-1.43/12 20} 19. Ra1 {
(Tb1) 3} Rb6 {-1.53/10 3} 20. Ra2 {0} cxd4 {-1.48/10 2} 21. exd4 {2} a4 {
-1.37/13 3} 22. Ne3 {(Se5) 3} Nxe3 {-1.20/12 2} 23. Kxe3 {1} Rb3 {-1.07/13 4}
24. Kf2 {(Se5) 7} g6 {-1.07/11 1} 25. Kg1 {(Kg2) 5} Ne4 {-1.00/13 3} 26. Rh2 {
(Th1) 3} Kg7 {-0.95/12 2} 27. Re2 {2} Bd6 {-0.81/12 1} 28. Kg2 {2} Rc6 {
-0.81/13 1} 29. Nd2 {(Se5) 4} Nxd2 {-0.81/11 0} 30. Rxd2 {(Lxd2) 1} Kf6 {
-0.91/16 2} 31. Re2 {14} Kf5 {-0.91/21 0} 32. Bf2 {(Kf3) 5} Kg4 {-1.07/16 1}
33. Bg1 {(Le3) 2} Rcb6 {-1.07/15 1} 34. Bf2 {(Le3) 1} Be7 {-1.07/17 1} 35. Be1
{(Le3) 1} Bd8 {-1.07/17 1} 36. Bf2 {1} Bc7 {-1.07/18 1} 37. Be1 {(Le3) 1} R6b5
{-1.07/18 2} 38. Bf2 {1} Bd6 {-1.07/19 7} 39. Be1 {(Le3) 2} Bb8 {-1.07/17 2}
40. Rc2 {(Lf2) 2} Rb6 {-1.07/17 1} 41. Re2 {1} Bc7 {-1.07/19 1} 42. Rc2 {
(Lf2) 1} Bd8 {-1.07/15 1} 43. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Be7 {-1.07/16 1} 44. Rc2 {(Tf2) 0}
Bd6 {-1.07/17 2} 45. Re2 {0} R6b5 {-1.07/18 0} 46. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bb8 {
-1.07/17 1} 47. Re2 {0} Rb6 {-1.07/19 5} 48. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} R3b5 {-1.07/18 2}
49. Re2 {1} Bd6 {-1.07/19 1} 50. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bc7 {-0.94/18 8} 51. Re2 {
(Td2) 0} Bb8 {-1.07/18 1} 52. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bd6 {-1.07/16 1} 53. Re2 {(Lf2) 0}
Bf8 {-1.07/17 1} 54. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Rb3 {-1.04/17 1} 55. Re2 {1} R6b5 {
-1.04/18 0} 56. Rc2 {(Tf2) 1} Bg7 {-1.00/15 1} 57. Re2 {(Tf2) 0} Rb6 {
-0.94/16 1} 58. Rc2 {(Tf2) 1} Bh6 {-1.00/16 1} 59. Re2 {(Tf2) 1} Bf8 {
-0.88/19 6} 60. Rc2 {(Tf2) 1} R3b5 {-1.07/16 0} 61. Re2 {1} Rc6 {-0.94/16 0}
62. Rf2 {(Ta1) 1} Bd6 {-0.94/15 1} 63. Re2 {(Tc2) 0} Bc7 {-0.94/16 0} 64. Rd2 {
(Ta1) 1} Rb3 {-0.94/16 1} 65. Re2 {1} Ba5 {-0.94/17 0} 66. Rf2 {(Lf2) 9} Bd8 {
-1.00/11 0} 67. Re2 {(f5) 1} Bf6 {-0.94/14 0} 68. Rd2 {(Ta1) 1} Bg7 {-0.94/13 1
} 69. Re2 {(Tf2) 1} Rd6 {-0.94/14 0} 70. Rd2 {(Tf2) 0} Ra6 {-0.94/15 1} 71. Re2
{(Tf2) 1} Bh8 {-0.94/15 1} 72. Rd2 {(Tf2) 1} Bf6 {-0.94/16 1} 73. Re2 {0} Bd8 {
-0.94/17 0} 74. Rd2 {(Ta1) 0} Ra5 {-0.94/15 1} 75. Re2 {(Tf2) 0} Bc7 {
-0.94/14 0} 76. Rd2 {(Lf2) 1} Ra8 {-0.94/14 0} 77. Re2 {0} Ra6 {-0.94/17 0} 78.
Rd2 {(Ta1) 1} f6 {-0.89/15 2} 79. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.92/14 1} 80. Bf2 {
(Ld2) 10} Bd8 {-0.89/14 0} 81. Be1 {(Ta1) 1} Be7 {-0.89/14 1} 82. Bf2 {(Ta1) 1}
Ra6 {-0.89/14 0} 83. Be1 {(Lg1) 1} Bf8 {-0.89/14 0} 84. Bf2 {(Tc2) 0} Rb5 {
-0.89/15 1} 85. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Rc6 {-0.89/16 1} 86. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Rb3 {
-0.89/16 0} 87. Be1 {(Ta1) 1} Rcb6 {-0.89/15 0} 88. Bf2 {(Td2) 0} R3b5 {
-0.89/17 1} 89. Be1 {0} Bh6 {-0.89/18 0} 90. Bf2 {0} Bg7 {-0.89/18 0} 91. Be1 {
(Lg1) 0} Bf8 {-0.89/16 2} 92. Bf2 {(Td2) 0} Rb3 {-0.89/18 1} 93. Be1 {0} Be7 {
-0.89/17 2} 94. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.89/14 0} 95. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Bd8 {
-0.89/13 0} 96. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Ra6 {-0.89/15 0} 97. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Bc7 {
-0.89/15 0} 98. Bf2 {0} Bb8 {-0.89/17 0} 99. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Rab6 {-0.89/14 0}
100. Bf2 {0} Bc7 {-0.89/17 0} 101. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} R3b5 {-0.89/16 0} 102. Bf2 {0}
Bd8 {-0.89/17 1} 103. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} Rb3 {-0.75/16 2} 104. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0} Be7 {
-0.89/15 0} 105. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} Ra6 {-0.76/12 0} 106. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Rd6 {
-0.75/13 0} 107. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Bd8 {-0.87/12 0} 108. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0} Rdb6 {
-0.89/13 0} 109. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} Bc7 {-0.89/16 0} 110. Bf2 {0} Bb8 {-0.89/18 0}
111. Be1 {0} R3b5 {-0.75/17 0} 112. Bf2 {0} Bc7 {-0.75/17 0} 113. Be1 {(Le3) 0}
Ra6 {-0.75/13 0} 114. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Bd8 {-0.89/14 0} 115. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Be7 {
-0.75/13 0} 116. Bf2 {0} Rc6 {-0.75/16 0} 117. Be1 {0} Bd8 {-0.75/17 0} 118.
Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Rd6 {-0.76/14 0} 119. Be1 {0} Rdb6 {-0.75/16 0} 120. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0
} Be7 {-0.76/13 0} 121. Be1 {(Tc2) 0} Rc6 {-0.75/13 0} 122. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Bf8 {
-0.75/13 0} 123. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Rb3 {-0.75/14 1} 124. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Bh6 {
-0.75/13 0} 125. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Ra6 {-0.75/11 0} 126. Bf2 {(Tc2) 0} Rd6 {
-0.68/13 1} 127. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Rdb6 {-0.68/12 0} 128. Bf2 {0} f5 {-0.68/18 0}
129. Be1 {(Le3) 1} Bf8 {-0.68/14 0} 130. Bf2 {0} Be7 {-0.68/18 0} 131. Be1 {
(Le3) 0} Bf6 {-0.68/12 0} 132. Bf2 {1} Bh8 {-0.68/19 0} 133. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Bg7
{-0.68/14 0} 134. Rc2 {(Lf2) 2} Bf8 {-0.68/12 0} 135. Re2 {(Td2) 1} Bh6 {
-0.68/14 0} 136. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bg7 {-0.68/14 0} 137. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Bh8 {
-0.68/15 0} 138. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bf6 {-0.68/14 0} 139. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Be7 {
-0.68/15 0} 140. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bd8 {-0.68/12 0} 141. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} R3b5 {
-0.68/14 0} 142. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bf6 {-0.68/13 0} 143. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Bg7 {
-0.68/15 0} 144. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bf8 {-0.68/12 0} 145. Re2 {0} Be7 {-0.68/19 0}
146. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bd6 {-0.68/13 0} 147. Re2 {0} Bf8 {-0.68/19 0} 148. Rc2 {
(Lf2) 0} Be7 {-0.68/14 0} 149. Re2 {0} Bf6 {-0.53/17 0} 150. Rc2 {(Td2) 0} Bd8
{-0.68/14 0} 151. Re2 {0} Rb3 {-0.68/20 0} 152. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bc7 {-0.68/13 0}
153. Re2 {0} R3b5 {-0.52/20 3} 154. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.64/7 0} 155. Re2 {
(Ta1) 0} Ra6 {-0.68/11 0} 156. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bd6 {-0.53/8 0} 157. Re2 {0} Bb8 {
-0.52/19 0} 158. Rc2 {(Ta1) 0} Rb3 {-0.52/12 0} 159. Re2 {0} Rc6 {-0.49/18 0}
160. Rd2 {(Ta1) 1} Bc7 {-0.68/9 0} 161. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Ba5 {-0.52/11 0} 162. Rf2
{(Ta1) 2} Bd8 {-0.53/9 0} 163. Re2 {(Tc2) 1} Rb5 {-0.49/8 0} 164. Rd2 {(Ta1) 1}
Rd6 {-0.54/10 0} 165. Re2 {(Ta1) 1} Bc7 {-0.49/12 0} 166. Rd2 {(Tc2) 0} Rb3 {
-0.49/11 0} 167. Re2 {(Tc2) 1} Rdb6 {-0.48/14 0} 168. Rd2 {(Tc2) 1} Bb8 {
-0.49/15 0} 169. Re2 {0} Rd6 {-0.49/18 0} 170. Rd2 {(Ta1) 0} Rc6 {-0.49/10 0}
171. Re2 {(Ta1) 0} Ba7 {-0.49/10 0} 172. Rd2 {(Ta1) 0} Rd6 {-0.48/11 0} 173.
Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Rdb6 {0.01/12 0} 174. Rd2 {(Lf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.48/13 0} 175. Re2 {0}
Ra6 {-0.48/15 0} 176. Rd2 {(Kf2) 0} Rab6 {-0.17/9 0} 177. Re2 {0} R3b5 {
0.00/19 0} 178. Rd2 {0} Rc6 {(Lag: Av=0.39s, max=1.0s) 0.00/22 0} 1/2-1/2

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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Is it possible for You beat Rybka 3 ? NO!

Post by Edward German »

Sorry Father!

Can you also posted victories against Rybka 3?

Last I saw, you have lost 100 games in series (!) against Rybka 3.

(No win, not once draw)

My Best!
Father
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Re: Is it possible for You beat Rybka 3 ? NO!

Post by Father »

Hello Eduard.UUntil now not victories. Just one simpole draw.
I am going to continue traying and learning from Rybka 3.
Best,
Pablo
Here the game:


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2008.08.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Haschme"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2042"]
[BlackElo "2620"]
[Annotator "RESTREPO,PABLO"]
[PlyCount "356"]
[EventDate "2008.08.09"]
[WhiteTeam "Rybka 3 32-bit: 15.0 ply; 105kN/s GenuineInte"]
[BlackTeam "Rybka 3 32-bit: 15.0 ply; 105kN/s GenuineInte"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {2} d5 {0} 2. e3 {0} Bf5 {0} 3. Bd3 {1} Bxd3 {0} 4. Qxd3 {1} Nc6 {0} 5.
f4 {1} e6 {-0.15/13 6} 6. c3 {(Sf3) 1} Qh4+ {-0.59/13 3} 7. g3 {1} Qh5 {
-0.54/14 3} 8. Qe2 {(Sd2) 1} Qxe2+ {-0.62/14 2} 9. Kxe2 {1} Nf6 {-0.58/15 2}
10. Nf3 {1} Ne7 {-0.57/15 4} 11. Nbd2 {(Tg1) 1} Nf5 {-0.53/15 9} 12. Nf1 {
(Tg1) 1} h5 {-0.82/12 3} 13. h4 {(S1d2) 2} c5 {-1.30/12 4} 14. Bd2 {(Kf2) 2} a5
{-1.19/10 3} 15. Rh3 {(a4) 1} Be7 {-1.38/10 2} 16. a3 {(Se5) 1} O-O {-1.49/10 3
} 17. Rd1 {2} Rfc8 {-1.55/12 5} 18. Be1 {(Sg5) 1} Ra6 {-1.43/12 20} 19. Ra1 {
(Tb1) 3} Rb6 {-1.53/10 3} 20. Ra2 {0} cxd4 {-1.48/10 2} 21. exd4 {2} a4 {
-1.37/13 3} 22. Ne3 {(Se5) 3} Nxe3 {-1.20/12 2} 23. Kxe3 {1} Rb3 {-1.07/13 4}
24. Kf2 {(Se5) 7} g6 {-1.07/11 1} 25. Kg1 {(Kg2) 5} Ne4 {-1.00/13 3} 26. Rh2 {
(Th1) 3} Kg7 {-0.95/12 2} 27. Re2 {2} Bd6 {-0.81/12 1} 28. Kg2 {2} Rc6 {
-0.81/13 1} 29. Nd2 {(Se5) 4} Nxd2 {-0.81/11 0} 30. Rxd2 {(Lxd2) 1} Kf6 {
-0.91/16 2} 31. Re2 {14} Kf5 {-0.91/21 0} 32. Bf2 {(Kf3) 5} Kg4 {-1.07/16 1}
33. Bg1 {(Le3) 2} Rcb6 {-1.07/15 1} 34. Bf2 {(Le3) 1} Be7 {-1.07/17 1} 35. Be1
{(Le3) 1} Bd8 {-1.07/17 1} 36. Bf2 {1} Bc7 {-1.07/18 1} 37. Be1 {(Le3) 1} R6b5
{-1.07/18 2} 38. Bf2 {1} Bd6 {-1.07/19 7} 39. Be1 {(Le3) 2} Bb8 {-1.07/17 2}
40. Rc2 {(Lf2) 2} Rb6 {-1.07/17 1} 41. Re2 {1} Bc7 {-1.07/19 1} 42. Rc2 {
(Lf2) 1} Bd8 {-1.07/15 1} 43. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Be7 {-1.07/16 1} 44. Rc2 {(Tf2) 0}
Bd6 {-1.07/17 2} 45. Re2 {0} R6b5 {-1.07/18 0} 46. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bb8 {
-1.07/17 1} 47. Re2 {0} Rb6 {-1.07/19 5} 48. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} R3b5 {-1.07/18 2}
49. Re2 {1} Bd6 {-1.07/19 1} 50. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bc7 {-0.94/18 8} 51. Re2 {
(Td2) 0} Bb8 {-1.07/18 1} 52. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bd6 {-1.07/16 1} 53. Re2 {(Lf2) 0}
Bf8 {-1.07/17 1} 54. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Rb3 {-1.04/17 1} 55. Re2 {1} R6b5 {
-1.04/18 0} 56. Rc2 {(Tf2) 1} Bg7 {-1.00/15 1} 57. Re2 {(Tf2) 0} Rb6 {
-0.94/16 1} 58. Rc2 {(Tf2) 1} Bh6 {-1.00/16 1} 59. Re2 {(Tf2) 1} Bf8 {
-0.88/19 6} 60. Rc2 {(Tf2) 1} R3b5 {-1.07/16 0} 61. Re2 {1} Rc6 {-0.94/16 0}
62. Rf2 {(Ta1) 1} Bd6 {-0.94/15 1} 63. Re2 {(Tc2) 0} Bc7 {-0.94/16 0} 64. Rd2 {
(Ta1) 1} Rb3 {-0.94/16 1} 65. Re2 {1} Ba5 {-0.94/17 0} 66. Rf2 {(Lf2) 9} Bd8 {
-1.00/11 0} 67. Re2 {(f5) 1} Bf6 {-0.94/14 0} 68. Rd2 {(Ta1) 1} Bg7 {-0.94/13 1
} 69. Re2 {(Tf2) 1} Rd6 {-0.94/14 0} 70. Rd2 {(Tf2) 0} Ra6 {-0.94/15 1} 71. Re2
{(Tf2) 1} Bh8 {-0.94/15 1} 72. Rd2 {(Tf2) 1} Bf6 {-0.94/16 1} 73. Re2 {0} Bd8 {
-0.94/17 0} 74. Rd2 {(Ta1) 0} Ra5 {-0.94/15 1} 75. Re2 {(Tf2) 0} Bc7 {
-0.94/14 0} 76. Rd2 {(Lf2) 1} Ra8 {-0.94/14 0} 77. Re2 {0} Ra6 {-0.94/17 0} 78.
Rd2 {(Ta1) 1} f6 {-0.89/15 2} 79. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.92/14 1} 80. Bf2 {
(Ld2) 10} Bd8 {-0.89/14 0} 81. Be1 {(Ta1) 1} Be7 {-0.89/14 1} 82. Bf2 {(Ta1) 1}
Ra6 {-0.89/14 0} 83. Be1 {(Lg1) 1} Bf8 {-0.89/14 0} 84. Bf2 {(Tc2) 0} Rb5 {
-0.89/15 1} 85. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Rc6 {-0.89/16 1} 86. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Rb3 {
-0.89/16 0} 87. Be1 {(Ta1) 1} Rcb6 {-0.89/15 0} 88. Bf2 {(Td2) 0} R3b5 {
-0.89/17 1} 89. Be1 {0} Bh6 {-0.89/18 0} 90. Bf2 {0} Bg7 {-0.89/18 0} 91. Be1 {
(Lg1) 0} Bf8 {-0.89/16 2} 92. Bf2 {(Td2) 0} Rb3 {-0.89/18 1} 93. Be1 {0} Be7 {
-0.89/17 2} 94. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.89/14 0} 95. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Bd8 {
-0.89/13 0} 96. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Ra6 {-0.89/15 0} 97. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Bc7 {
-0.89/15 0} 98. Bf2 {0} Bb8 {-0.89/17 0} 99. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Rab6 {-0.89/14 0}
100. Bf2 {0} Bc7 {-0.89/17 0} 101. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} R3b5 {-0.89/16 0} 102. Bf2 {0}
Bd8 {-0.89/17 1} 103. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} Rb3 {-0.75/16 2} 104. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0} Be7 {
-0.89/15 0} 105. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} Ra6 {-0.76/12 0} 106. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Rd6 {
-0.75/13 0} 107. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Bd8 {-0.87/12 0} 108. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0} Rdb6 {
-0.89/13 0} 109. Be1 {(Lg1) 0} Bc7 {-0.89/16 0} 110. Bf2 {0} Bb8 {-0.89/18 0}
111. Be1 {0} R3b5 {-0.75/17 0} 112. Bf2 {0} Bc7 {-0.75/17 0} 113. Be1 {(Le3) 0}
Ra6 {-0.75/13 0} 114. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Bd8 {-0.89/14 0} 115. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Be7 {
-0.75/13 0} 116. Bf2 {0} Rc6 {-0.75/16 0} 117. Be1 {0} Bd8 {-0.75/17 0} 118.
Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Rd6 {-0.76/14 0} 119. Be1 {0} Rdb6 {-0.75/16 0} 120. Bf2 {(Tf2) 0
} Be7 {-0.76/13 0} 121. Be1 {(Tc2) 0} Rc6 {-0.75/13 0} 122. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Bf8 {
-0.75/13 0} 123. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Rb3 {-0.75/14 1} 124. Bf2 {(Ta1) 0} Bh6 {
-0.75/13 0} 125. Be1 {(Ta1) 0} Ra6 {-0.75/11 0} 126. Bf2 {(Tc2) 0} Rd6 {
-0.68/13 1} 127. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Rdb6 {-0.68/12 0} 128. Bf2 {0} f5 {-0.68/18 0}
129. Be1 {(Le3) 1} Bf8 {-0.68/14 0} 130. Bf2 {0} Be7 {-0.68/18 0} 131. Be1 {
(Le3) 0} Bf6 {-0.68/12 0} 132. Bf2 {1} Bh8 {-0.68/19 0} 133. Be1 {(Le3) 0} Bg7
{-0.68/14 0} 134. Rc2 {(Lf2) 2} Bf8 {-0.68/12 0} 135. Re2 {(Td2) 1} Bh6 {
-0.68/14 0} 136. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bg7 {-0.68/14 0} 137. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Bh8 {
-0.68/15 0} 138. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bf6 {-0.68/14 0} 139. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Be7 {
-0.68/15 0} 140. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bd8 {-0.68/12 0} 141. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} R3b5 {
-0.68/14 0} 142. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bf6 {-0.68/13 0} 143. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Bg7 {
-0.68/15 0} 144. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bf8 {-0.68/12 0} 145. Re2 {0} Be7 {-0.68/19 0}
146. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bd6 {-0.68/13 0} 147. Re2 {0} Bf8 {-0.68/19 0} 148. Rc2 {
(Lf2) 0} Be7 {-0.68/14 0} 149. Re2 {0} Bf6 {-0.53/17 0} 150. Rc2 {(Td2) 0} Bd8
{-0.68/14 0} 151. Re2 {0} Rb3 {-0.68/20 0} 152. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Bc7 {-0.68/13 0}
153. Re2 {0} R3b5 {-0.52/20 3} 154. Rc2 {(Lf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.64/7 0} 155. Re2 {
(Ta1) 0} Ra6 {-0.68/11 0} 156. Rc2 {(Lf2) 1} Bd6 {-0.53/8 0} 157. Re2 {0} Bb8 {
-0.52/19 0} 158. Rc2 {(Ta1) 0} Rb3 {-0.52/12 0} 159. Re2 {0} Rc6 {-0.49/18 0}
160. Rd2 {(Ta1) 1} Bc7 {-0.68/9 0} 161. Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Ba5 {-0.52/11 0} 162. Rf2
{(Ta1) 2} Bd8 {-0.53/9 0} 163. Re2 {(Tc2) 1} Rb5 {-0.49/8 0} 164. Rd2 {(Ta1) 1}
Rd6 {-0.54/10 0} 165. Re2 {(Ta1) 1} Bc7 {-0.49/12 0} 166. Rd2 {(Tc2) 0} Rb3 {
-0.49/11 0} 167. Re2 {(Tc2) 1} Rdb6 {-0.48/14 0} 168. Rd2 {(Tc2) 1} Bb8 {
-0.49/15 0} 169. Re2 {0} Rd6 {-0.49/18 0} 170. Rd2 {(Ta1) 0} Rc6 {-0.49/10 0}
171. Re2 {(Ta1) 0} Ba7 {-0.49/10 0} 172. Rd2 {(Ta1) 0} Rd6 {-0.48/11 0} 173.
Re2 {(Lf2) 0} Rdb6 {0.01/12 0} 174. Rd2 {(Lf2) 0} Rc6 {-0.48/13 0} 175. Re2 {0}
Ra6 {-0.48/15 0} 176. Rd2 {(Kf2) 0} Rab6 {-0.17/9 0} 177. Re2 {0} R3b5 {
0.00/19 0} 178. Rd2 {0} Rc6 {(Lag: Av=0.39s, max=1.0s) 0.00/22 0} 1/2-1/2

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Re: Is it possible for You beat Rybka 3 ? NO!

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Edward German wrote:Sorry Father!

Can you also posted victories against Rybka 3?

Last I saw, you have lost 100 games in series (!) against Rybka 3.

(No win, not once draw)

My Best!
Ahaaaa,now that's what I call business....

:lol:

Hello Alex,Hello Bill :P

P.S.Once thing I like about Eduard is that he's honest....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Re: Is it possible for You beat Rybka 3 ? NO!

Post by Nimzovik »

HAH!!!!!!!! Once again Pablo strikes!! Gentlemen! THE point here is not that Computers wins most of the games! THE point here is Pablo can do what he does! Let me summarize: 1) Pablo is NOT a grandmaster. 2) Pablo, now that he has another draw under his belt will continue to improve his theories. 3) If he can improve them to such an extent it is possible he can REPEAT ad nauseum his draws against programmer achievement then the chink in the machines armour is --HORRIFIC!! What would a Kasparov do with these concepts against Rybka3?? 4.) Once again he highlights THE POINT here that many here REFUSE to address: CLOSED positions can be exploited against computers! Let me say that one again- some people need thier DENIAL defense mechanism perferated here- CLOSED POSITIONS can be E-X-P-L-O-I-T-E-D against programs :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: PLEASE don't say to me "Whine Whine Whine the games are boring to me...." That is not an excuse! THERE FORE To be the ultimate in computer chess the programmers are going to HAVE to deal with the closed position. Simple enuff to understand. For some that is........ :roll: I dare say some human with some closed theory concept will be used agaisnt Rybka 3 sooner or later and be successful.