Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

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Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

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Game 12  -   Houdini wins
 
[Event ""]
[Site "ChessPalace"]
[Date "2011.01.03"]
[Round "6.2"]
[White "Houdini_1.5"]
[Black "Rybka_4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Time "6:49:25 PM"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:1800+10"]
[PlyCount "123"]
[Number "12"]
[Termination "GUI adjudication"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Variant "normal"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r1bq1rk1/1p3ppp/p1n1pn2/2b5/2p5/PP1BPN2/1B3PPP/RN1Q1RK1 w - - 0 1"]

{ I7 920 x64 }
1.bxc4 {[%eval 27,25] [%emt 00:11:49] [%clk 1:48:10]} Qc7 {[%eval 19,20] [%emt 00:04:18] [%clk 1:55:41]}
2.Qc2 {[%eval 30,24] [%emt 00:04:16] [%clk 1:43:54]} h6 {[%eval 13,19] [%emt 00:02:10] [%clk 1:53:30]}
3.Nc3 {[%eval 26,23] [%emt 00:03:58] [%clk 1:39:55]} b6 {[%eval 27,18] [%emt 00:02:49] [%clk 1:50:41]}
4.Rfd1 {[%eval 27,22] [%emt 00:02:51] [%clk 1:37:04]} Bb7 {[%eval 9,18] [%emt 00:05:50] [%clk 1:44:51]}
5.Na4 {[%eval 24,20] [%emt 00:03:43] [%clk 1:33:20]} Nd7 {[%eval 4,18] [%emt 00:01:53] [%clk 1:42:57]}
6.Bh7+ {[%eval 25,21] [%emt 00:02:48] [%clk 1:30:32]} Kh8 {[%eval 3,9] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:42:57]}
7.Rac1 {[%eval 15,21] [%emt 00:03:54] [%clk 1:26:37]} Rfd8 {[%eval 0,18] [%emt 00:04:43] [%clk 1:38:14]}
8.Qc3 {[%eval 9,22] [%emt 00:01:59] [%clk 1:24:37]} f6 {[%eval 3,20] [%emt 00:02:20] [%clk 1:35:53]}
9.Bb1 {[%eval 17,24] [%emt 00:03:13] [%clk 1:21:24]} Na5 {[%eval 5,19] [%emt 00:02:14] [%clk 1:33:39]}
10.Nd4 {[%eval 11,24] [%emt 00:02:51] [%clk 1:18:32]} Bxd4 {[%eval 11,19] [%emt 00:04:03] [%clk 1:29:35]}
11.Rxd4 {[%eval 13,24] [%emt 00:03:42] [%clk 1:14:49]} e5 {[%eval 0,19] [%emt 00:05:15] [%clk 1:24:19]}
12.Qc2 {[%eval 10,26] [%emt 00:02:16] [%clk 1:12:33]} Nf8 {[%eval 0,19] [%emt 00:00:37] [%clk 1:23:42]}
13.Rxd8 {[%eval 10,27] [%emt 00:05:11] [%clk 1:07:22]} Rxd8 {[%eval 1,19] [%emt 00:00:20] [%clk 1:23:22]}
14.c5 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 00:06:14] [%clk 1:01:08]} b5 {[%eval 0,20] [%emt 00:02:06] [%clk 1:21:15]}
15.Nb6 {[%eval 0,25] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:01:07]} Be4 {[%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:01:43] [%clk 1:19:32]}
16.Qxe4 {[%eval 6,28] [%emt 00:04:12] [%clk 0:56:55]} Nb3 {[%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:00:22] [%clk 1:19:09]}
17.Rf1 {[%eval 6,26] [%emt 00:02:42] [%clk 0:54:12]} Nxc5 {[%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:00:34] [%clk 1:18:35]}
18.Na8 {[%eval 1,28] [%emt 00:04:15] [%clk 0:49:56]} Qd6 {[%eval 0,23] [%emt 00:04:47] [%clk 1:13:47]}
19.Qc2 {[%eval 5,26] [%emt 00:01:59] [%clk 0:47:57]} Rxa8 {[%eval 0,23] [%emt 00:10:55] [%clk 1:02:52]}
20.Bc3 {[%eval 8,27] [%emt 00:04:09] [%clk 0:43:48]} e4 {[%eval 0,23] [%emt 00:02:23] [%clk 1:00:29]}
21.Bb4 {[%eval 5,27] [%emt 00:04:33] [%clk 0:39:15]} Nfd7 {[%eval 5,23] [%emt 00:01:48] [%clk 0:58:40]}
22.Rd1 {[%eval 5,26] [%emt 00:03:05] [%clk 0:36:10]} Qe7 {[%eval 5,22] [%emt 00:07:48] [%clk 0:50:51]}
23.Rd5 {[%eval 16,24] [%emt 00:02:38] [%clk 0:33:31]} Qe6 {[%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:01:21] [%clk 0:49:30]}
24.Ba2 {[%eval 17,27] [%emt 00:03:18] [%clk 0:30:12]} Nd3 {[%eval 0,20] [%emt 00:01:12] [%clk 0:48:18]}
25.Qc7 {[%eval 17,27] [%emt 00:02:51] [%clk 0:27:21]} Qg4 {[%eval 33,21] [%emt 00:04:02] [%clk 0:44:15]}
26.h3 {[%eval 26,24] [%emt 00:00:01] [%clk 0:27:19]} Qe2 {[%eval 33,21] [%emt 00:00:30] [%clk 0:43:44]}
27.Rxd7 {[%eval 21,27] [%emt 00:01:30] [%clk 0:25:49]} Qxf2+ {[%eval 33,20] [%emt 00:02:25] [%clk 0:41:19]}
28.Kh2 {[%eval 105,24] [%emt 00:01:48] [%clk 0:24:00]} Ne5 {[%eval 33,20] [%emt 00:00:16] [%clk 0:41:02]}
29.Rd8+ {[%eval 105,23] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:24:00]} Rxd8 {[%eval 33,19] [%emt 00:00:52] [%clk 0:40:09]}
30.Qxd8+ {[%eval 104,22] [%emt 00:00:14] [%clk 0:23:46]} Kh7 {[%eval 33,13] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:40:09]}
31.Bg8+ {[%eval 104,25] [%emt 00:01:51] [%clk 0:21:54]} Kg6 {[%eval 89,20] [%emt 00:00:13] [%clk 0:39:56]}
32.Qd1 {[%eval 104,24] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:21:54]} Qxe3 {[%eval 118,20] [%emt 00:01:53] [%clk 0:38:02]}
33.Qd2 {[%eval 104,28] [%emt 00:03:51] [%clk 0:18:02]} Qxd2 {[%eval 132,21] [%emt 00:02:07] [%clk 0:35:54]}
34.Bxd2 {[%eval 100,26] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:18:02]} f5 {[%eval 139,23] [%emt 00:04:40] [%clk 0:31:14]}
35.Kg3 {[%eval 112,28] [%emt 00:04:15] [%clk 0:13:47]} Kf6 {[%eval 166,22] [%emt 00:01:56] [%clk 0:29:17]}
36.Kf2 {[%eval 120,27] [%emt 00:03:22] [%clk 0:10:24]} Nd3+ {[%eval 154,23] [%emt 00:08:12] [%clk 0:21:05]}
37.Ke3 {[%eval 157,28] [%emt 00:03:42] [%clk 0:06:41]} g6 {[%eval 193,23] [%emt 00:04:12] [%clk 0:16:52]}
38.g3 {[%eval 172,28] [%emt 00:02:45] [%clk 0:03:56]} h5 {[%eval 181,23] [%emt 00:07:54] [%clk 0:08:58]}
39.h4 {[%eval 172,26] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:03:55]} g5 {[%eval 361,23] [%emt 00:03:18] [%clk 0:05:39]}
40.Bc3+ {[%eval 240,25] [%emt 00:00:54] [%clk 0:03:00]} Kg6 {[%eval 329,19] [%emt 00:00:27] [%clk 0:05:12]}
41.Bd5 {[%eval 227,24] [%emt 00:00:02] [%clk 1:02:58]} Nc5 {[%eval 357,22] [%emt 00:01:47] [%clk 1:03:24]}
42.Bc6 {[%eval 307,27] [%emt 00:04:34] [%clk 0:58:23]} Nd3 {[%eval 357,22] [%emt 00:07:33] [%clk 0:55:50]}
43.Be8+ {[%eval 326,26] [%emt 00:01:28] [%clk 0:56:54]} Kh6 {[%eval 341,20] [%emt 00:00:28] [%clk 0:55:21]}
44.Bf6 {[%eval 341,25] [%emt 00:00:56] [%clk 0:55:58]} gxh4 {[%eval 383,22] [%emt 00:01:18] [%clk 0:54:03]}
45.gxh4 {[%eval 341,24] [%emt 00:00:02] [%clk 0:55:55]} b4 {[%eval 480,21] [%emt 00:02:00] [%clk 0:52:02]}
46.axb4 {[%eval 603,26] [%emt 00:04:16] [%clk 0:51:38]} Nxb4 {[%eval 480,22] [%emt 00:00:35] [%clk 0:51:26]}
47.Bg5+ {[%eval 604,25] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:51:38]} Kh7 {[%eval 549,22] [%emt 00:07:20] [%clk 0:44:05]}
48.Kf4 {[%eval 693,24] [%emt 00:01:33] [%clk 0:50:05]} Nc2 {[%eval 529,20] [%emt 00:01:11] [%clk 0:42:54]}
49.Bxh5 {[%eval 693,23] [%emt 00:00:14] [%clk 0:49:50]} Nd4 {[%eval 951,26] [%emt 00:04:01] [%clk 0:38:53]}
50.Ke5 {[%eval 693,22] [%emt 00:00:05] [%clk 0:49:45]} Nf3+ {[%eval 196,23] [%emt 00:00:21] [%clk 0:38:31]}
51.Kxf5 {[%eval 1357,21] [%emt 00:00:11] [%clk 0:49:34]} Nxg5 {[%eval 0,37] [%emt 00:00:22] [%clk 0:38:09]}
52.hxg5 {[%eval 32721,20] [%emt 00:00:01] [%clk 0:49:32]} Kg7 {[%eval 32743,23] [%emt 00:03:27] [%clk 0:34:41]}
53.Kxe4 {[%eval 32725,19] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:32]} a5 {[%eval 32747,26] [%emt 00:01:44] [%clk 0:32:56]}
54.Bd1 {[%eval 32721,18] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:31]} Kg6 {[%eval 32747,25] [%emt 00:04:31] [%clk 0:28:25]}
55.Kf4 {[%eval 32729,17] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:31]} a4 {[%eval 32749,24] [%emt 00:04:32] [%clk 0:23:52]}
56.Bxa4 {[%eval 32735,16] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:31]} Kg7 {[%eval 32753,26] [%emt 00:04:35] [%clk 0:19:17]}
57.Kf5 {[%eval 32743,15] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:31]} Kf7 {[%eval 32753,23] [%emt 00:04:37] [%clk 0:14:40]}
58.g6+ {[%eval 32733,14] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:31]} Ke7 {[%eval 32755,25] [%emt 00:04:41] [%clk 0:09:58]}
59.Ke5 {[%eval 32735,13] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:31]} Kd8 {[%eval 32757,23] [%emt 00:03:44] [%clk 0:06:14]}
60.Kf6 {[%eval 32737,12] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:49:31]} Kc7 {[%eval 32757,21] [%emt 00:03:06] [%clk 0:03:07]}
61.g7 {[%eval 32739,11] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:19:31]} Kd6 {[%eval 32759,21] [%emt 00:01:02] [%clk 0:32:04]}
62.g8=Q {[%eval 32741,10] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:19:41]}
1-0
 
PawnStormZ
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Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

Post by PawnStormZ »

Game 13  -  Draw
 
[Event ""]
[Site "ChessPalace"]
[Date "2011.01.04"]
[Round "7.1"]
[White "Rybka_4"]
[Black "Houdini_1.5"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Time "3:16:29 AM"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:1800+10"]
[PlyCount "96"]
[Number "13"]
[Termination "insufficient material"]
[BlackType "program"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[Variant "normal"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r2qk1nr/ppbn1ppp/4p3/1B1pP3/1P1p1P2/P4N2/2P3PP/R1BQK2R w KQkq - 0 1"]

{ I7 920 x64 }
1.O-O {[%eval 37,21] [%emt 00:03:38] [%clk 1:56:21]} Ne7 {[%eval 16,25] [%emt 00:03:56] [%clk 1:56:03]}
2.Nxd4 {[%eval 37,20] [%emt 00:03:57] [%clk 1:52:23]} a6 {[%eval 21,25] [%emt 00:03:07] [%clk 1:52:55]}
3.Bd3 {[%eval 35,21] [%emt 00:05:22] [%clk 1:47:01]} Nb6 {[%eval 18,24] [%emt 00:06:29] [%clk 1:46:26]}
4.Be3 {[%eval 35,19] [%emt 00:02:51] [%clk 1:44:10]} g6 {[%eval 25,23] [%emt 00:02:14] [%clk 1:44:12]}
5.Qf3 {[%eval 41,20] [%emt 00:16:58] [%clk 1:27:11]} O-O {[%eval 29,24] [%emt 00:11:59] [%clk 1:32:12]}
6.Qh3 {[%eval 53,20] [%emt 00:10:59] [%clk 1:16:12]} Nc4 {[%eval 64,24] [%emt 00:15:48] [%clk 1:16:24]}
7.Bxc4 {[%eval 65,19] [%emt 00:03:01] [%clk 1:13:11]} dxc4 {[%eval 62,22] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:16:24]}
8.Rad1 {[%eval 70,20] [%emt 00:00:32] [%clk 1:12:39]} Qe8 {[%eval 90,26] [%emt 00:13:53] [%clk 1:02:30]}
9.Nf3 {[%eval 70,18] [%emt 00:00:27] [%clk 1:12:11]} h5 {[%eval 67,25] [%emt 00:03:18] [%clk 0:59:12]}
10.Bc5 {[%eval 90,17] [%emt 00:00:44] [%clk 1:11:27]} b6 {[%eval 66,25] [%emt 00:01:41] [%clk 0:57:30]}
11.Bd6 {[%eval 81,19] [%emt 00:00:49] [%clk 1:10:38]} Bxd6 {[%eval 74,24] [%emt 00:01:38] [%clk 0:55:52]}
12.exd6 {[%eval 87,18] [%emt 00:00:27] [%clk 1:10:10]} Nd5 {[%eval 124,26] [%emt 00:11:33] [%clk 0:44:18]}
13.Rfe1 {[%eval 112,18] [%emt 00:01:10] [%clk 1:08:59]} Qc6 {[%eval 69,24] [%emt 00:01:18] [%clk 0:43:00]}
14.Ne5 {[%eval 112,19] [%emt 00:00:21] [%clk 1:08:38]} Qxd6 {[%eval 69,23] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:43:00]}
15.Nxg6 {[%eval 112,19] [%emt 00:00:39] [%clk 1:07:58]} fxg6 {[%eval 68,27] [%emt 00:02:00] [%clk 0:41:00]}
16.Rxe6 {[%eval 112,19] [%emt 00:00:14] [%clk 1:07:43]} Nxf4 {[%eval 67,26] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:40:59]}
17.Rdxd6 {[%eval 116,19] [%emt 00:01:20] [%clk 1:06:22]} Nxh3+ {[%eval 59,26] [%emt 00:00:24] [%clk 0:40:35]}
18.gxh3 {[%eval 110,20] [%emt 00:00:09] [%clk 1:06:12]} b5 {[%eval 49,27] [%emt 00:01:44] [%clk 0:38:50]}
19.Rxg6+ {[%eval 151,24] [%emt 00:01:00] [%clk 1:05:12]} Kf7 {[%eval 48,28] [%emt 00:01:19] [%clk 0:37:30]}
20.Rxa6 {[%eval 163,24] [%emt 00:01:36] [%clk 1:03:36]} Rfd8 {[%eval 55,27] [%emt 00:01:31] [%clk 0:35:59]}
21.Rxa8 {[%eval 140,25] [%emt 00:02:09] [%clk 1:01:26]} Rxa8 {[%eval 34,30] [%emt 00:02:00] [%clk 0:33:59]}
22.Rh6 {[%eval 140,28] [%emt 00:01:20] [%clk 1:00:06]} Rxa3 {[%eval 27,32] [%emt 00:01:54] [%clk 0:32:04]}
23.Rxh5 {[%eval 140,28] [%emt 00:00:39] [%clk 0:59:26]} Rc3 {[%eval 25,33] [%emt 00:02:21] [%clk 0:29:43]}
24.Kf2 {[%eval 152,28] [%emt 00:05:18] [%clk 0:54:08]} Rxc2+ {[%eval 14,31] [%emt 00:01:56] [%clk 0:27:46]}
25.Ke3 {[%eval 173,26] [%emt 00:00:57] [%clk 0:53:10]} Rxh2 {[%eval 10,34] [%emt 00:01:19] [%clk 0:26:27]}
26.Rxb5 {[%eval 199,28] [%emt 00:01:54] [%clk 0:51:15]} Rxh3+ {[%eval 1,36] [%emt 00:01:46] [%clk 0:24:41]}
27.Kd4 {[%eval 199,28] [%emt 00:00:25] [%clk 0:50:49]} c3 {[%eval 1,37] [%emt 00:01:19] [%clk 0:23:22]}
28.Rc5 {[%eval 216,28] [%emt 00:00:49] [%clk 0:50:00]} Ke6 {[%eval 1,40] [%emt 00:01:48] [%clk 0:21:33]}
29.Rxc3 {[%eval 216,35] [%emt 00:01:50] [%clk 0:48:09]} Rxc3 {[%eval 1,52] [%emt 00:01:22] [%clk 0:20:11]}
30.Kxc3 {[%eval 216,44] [%emt 00:00:22] [%clk 0:47:46]} Kd7 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
31.Kb2 {[%eval 0,51] [%emt 00:06:31] [%clk 0:41:15]} Kd8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
32.Kb3 {[%eval 0,50] [%emt 00:04:09] [%clk 0:37:05]} Kc8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
33.Kc4 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:04:48] [%clk 0:32:16]} Kb8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
34.Kd4 {[%eval 0,48] [%emt 00:02:24] [%clk 0:29:52]} Kc8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
35.Kd3 {[%eval 0,50] [%emt 00:06:00] [%clk 0:23:51]} Kd8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
36.Kc4 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:06:17] [%clk 0:17:34]} Kc8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
37.Kc5 {[%eval 0,48] [%emt 00:02:07] [%clk 0:15:26]} Kc7 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
38.Kd5 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:02:23] [%clk 0:13:03]} Kd7 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
39.b5 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:03:22] [%clk 0:09:41]} Kc7 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
40.Kc5 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:03:44] [%clk 0:05:57]} Kb7 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 0:20:11]}
41.b6 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:02:10] [%clk 1:03:46]} Kb8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
42.Kc6 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:01:29] [%clk 1:02:17]} Kc8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
43.Kd5 {[%eval 0,50] [%emt 00:01:37] [%clk 1:00:39]} Kb8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
44.Kc5 {[%eval 0,50] [%emt 00:03:40] [%clk 0:56:59]} Kb7 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
45.Kc4 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 00:01:31] [%clk 0:55:27]} Kc8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
46.b7+ {[%eval 0,51] [%emt 00:05:29] [%clk 0:49:57]} Kb8 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
47.Kc5 {[%eval 0,50] [%emt 00:02:30] [%clk 0:47:27]} Kc7 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
48.Kb5 {[%eval 0,50] [%emt 00:04:46] [%clk 0:42:41]} Kxb7 {[%eval 2,1] [%emt 00:00:00] [%clk 1:20:11]}
1/2-1/2
 
PawnStormZ
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Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

Post by PawnStormZ »

Standings after game 13

Houdini_1.5     9.0     + 6 = 6 - 1
Rybka_4          4.0     + 1 = 6 - 6
 
gerold
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Re: Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

Post by gerold »

PawnStormZ wrote:Standings after game 13

Houdini_1.5     9.0     + 6 = 6 - 1
Rybka_4          4.0     + 1 = 6 - 6
 
Very good Pal. I appreciate this head to head match.

Best,
Gerold.
Roger Brown
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Re: Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

Post by Roger Brown »

PawnStormZ wrote: Hi all.

I am running a match between the 64 bit mp versions of Houdini 1.5 and Rybka 4 at "championship" time controls.

Match conditions: Intel core I7 920 at 2.66GHz using 4 cores HT off; Win 7 64 Home Premimum; 6G RAM; pc doing nothing but the match while a game is being played.

Each engine uses default settings except for the split-depth of Houdini which is set to 12 (tested best on this pc); no large pages; no end-game tablebases; 512 hash each; 4 cores each; ponder off.

Time control is 40 in 120 min - 20 in 60 min - remainder in 30 min plus 10 seconds per move. I am using the excellent "ChessGUI" to run the match, set to give each engine a 1/10th second "overstep" margin to help avoid any time losses.

The openings are played using random choices from Bob Hyatt's set of 4000 positions; each position is played as Black and White by each engine.

Since each game takes about 6 hours, it will take some time before there are a good amount of games. I plan to keep posting the games as they are completed (or more likely after every few games). I hope that they will be interesting as games, in addition to the outcome of the match.



Hello Pal Larkin,

You can count me in as someone else who is fascinated by this match.

I cannot but envy you your ability to have a machine with those specs to be used purely for providing free entertainment for the rest of us.

Thanks.

I guess the results at these timecontrols will answer some questions that I have heard mooted.

You are to be applauded. Thanks for the games and the willingness to provide an interesting match. I agree, ChessGUI is an excellent gui!

Later.
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Re: Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

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PawnStormZ wrote:Standings after game 13

Houdini_1.5     9.0     + 6 = 6 - 1
Rybka_4          4.0     + 1 = 6 - 6
 
Sweet....Rybka 4 looks like a stupid 1600 club player in this match :lol:
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  Hi Gerold.

   I am glad that you find it interesting.

     Take care
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Hi Roger.

     I am glad that you and others are enjoying the match.   It sure is different than those G in 1 matches where 500 games can be played and posted in a day!
 
     Hopefully, some interesting games will be produced by these two as they battle for the "crown"!   :)

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Re: Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

Post by wsogpr »

Hi Robert,
I'm afraid I do not know how to cut from Fritz 11 GUI and post my analysis here (despite spending an age trying :cry: ). So I have had to write out everything long hand (I was lazy enough to find a position to use as an example on chessok opening explorer so hopefully the FEN is correct).
An example of the kind of position that I mean is:

r1bqkb1r/pp1n2pp/2n1pp2/3pP3/3P1N2/3B4/PP1N1PPP/R1BQK2R b KQkq - 1 9

PGN: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Bd3 c5 6. c3 Nc6 7. Ne2 cxd4 8. cxd4 f6 9. Nf4 * {[*]
Hugebase database of human games shows that the most popular moves here for humans are 9..Nd4 (663 games played with a success rate of 52%) while Q...e7 is significantly less popular (102 games with a success rate of 40%). Thus it is fair to say that in human games 9...Nd4 is somewhat better.
I analysed this position with 2 cores for 1 minute with the following engines.
In this position default Rybka 4 dislikes the exchange sac associated with playing 9..Nd4 and instead choses the less natural move Qe7 (at depth 16 assessing it as +0.31).
I also analysed this position with Rybka 4 with the weights changed as per the recommendation by Larry Kaufman to create a more human like evaluation (modifications to Rybka 4 default weights as follows +0.24cpawns for B/N, +0.12 cp for Rook - I have assumed that this may have been to achieve approximately the piece values that I have quoted previously (which came from Kaufman) - though Kaufman used several positions to determine what the most appropriate modifications to the default values should be - I don't think that Vas told him what they were.) This Rybka 4 human chose the much more popular and more successful 9...Nd4 (+0.18 at depth 16). It assesses 9...Qe7 as +0.34(at depth 16)
I also used Houdini 1.5 to analyse this position. It again chose 9..Qe7 (+0.2 depth 18).9...Nd4 is evaluated as +0.29(depth 20)
It is clear from the above that the modifications to the piece values make the analyis more useful for a human over the board player.
If anyone would like to educate me as to how to cut analysis from Fritz 11 GUI and set up board positions I would appreciate it! :)
Regards,
Sean
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Re: Houdini 1.5 v Rybka 4 at long time control

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Thanks for the long time control match as it is interesting to play over these kinds of games( as I do with others who post here - thanks to them also).

When I cut and paste these games to create a pgn file it does not work in Arena. Can anyone else confirm this or am I missing somrthing?