Strelka 5.5 x32 is released....

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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released....

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Laskos wrote:

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Games Completed = 850 of 10000 (Avg game length = 7.112 sec)
Settings = RR/16MB/50ms per move/M 700000cp for 1000 moves, D 3000 moves/PGN:C:\Users\Downloads\LittleBlitzer\swcr.pgn(5120)
Time = 10402 sec elapsed, 111972 sec remaining
 1.  Houdini 1.5a w32         	370.0/850	202-312-336  	(L: m=312 t=0 i=0 a=0)	(D: r=254 i=41 f=40 s=1 a=0)	(tpm=47.4 d=11.4 nps=1076409)
 2.  Strelka 5.5              	480.0/850	312-202-336  	(L: m=202 t=0 i=0 a=0)	(D: r=254 i=41 f=40 s=1 a=0)	(tpm=55.5 d=12.1 nps=968204)

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    Program                            Score     %     Elo    +   -    Draws

  1 Strelka 5.5                    : 480.0/850  56.5   3223   18  18   39.5 %
  2 Houdini 1.5a w32               : 370.0/850  43.5   3177   18  18   39.5 %
Nobody seems to be able to reproduce this result at more normal time controls, can you?
I wasted some CPU time to play an 8000-game match between Houdini 1.5a and Strelka 5.5 at time control 8"+0.08". Houdini 1.5a won:

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   1 Houdini 1.5a w32   12 8000.0 (4280.5 : 3719.5)
                           8000.0 (4280.5 : 3719.5)
   2 Strelka 5.5       -12 8000.0 (3719.5 : 4280.5)
                           8000.0 (3719.5 : 4280.5)
(note: this was played on hardware with SSE4.2, giving Houdini 1.5 a small speed advantage - at this TC worth about 5 to 10 Elo)

In analysis Strelka 5.5 and Strelka 5.1 produce nearly identical results - very often even identical node counts - the changes between the two versions must be minimal.
As far as I can see, Strelka 5.5 is still 99% search and eval of Houdini 1.5, with some other parts (e.g. the time management) taken from the Ivanhoe source.
In view of that, the reactions in this thread are hilarious... :lol: :lol:

Robert
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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released....

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ouch ! This post by Robert will calm down many people 8-)

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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released....

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gleperlier wrote:ouch ! This post by Robert will calm down many people 8-)

Gab
I doubt it, I've told nothing new...
People only hear what they want to hear.

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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released!

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A Distel wrote:
gleperlier wrote:Hello,

Strelka doesn't work on Fritz13 GUI ? Is it UCI ?

Gab
On my "Fritz 13 GUI" Strelka 5.5 UCI" works just fine!
But will it do a dozen games with Ponder=On without causing exception errors? Has that been fixed yet?
Happy chessing!
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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released!

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ATOMICC wrote:
A Distel wrote:
gleperlier wrote:Hello,

Strelka doesn't work on Fritz13 GUI ? Is it UCI ?

Gab
On my "Fritz 13 GUI" Strelka 5.5 UCI" works just fine!
But will it do a dozen games with Ponder=On without causing exception errors? Has that been fixed yet?
No problem with Ponder On here.

Gab
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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released!

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gleperlier wrote:
ATOMICC wrote:
A Distel wrote:
gleperlier wrote:Hello,

Strelka doesn't work on Fritz13 GUI ? Is it UCI ?

Gab
On my "Fritz 13 GUI" Strelka 5.5 UCI" works just fine!
But will it do a dozen games with Ponder=On without causing exception errors? Has that been fixed yet?
No problem with Ponder On here.

Gab
I'm sorry. I should have clarified. Will it run games with Ponder=On using the Fritz GUI?
Happy chessing!
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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released....

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Houdini wrote:...
In view of that, the reactions in this thread are hilarious... :lol: :lol:

Robert
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A nation turns it's lonely eyes to you (Woo, woo, woo)" :)
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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released!

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ATOMICC wrote:
gleperlier wrote:
ATOMICC wrote:
A Distel wrote:
gleperlier wrote:Hello,

Strelka doesn't work on Fritz13 GUI ? Is it UCI ?


I'm sorry. I should have clarified. Will it run games with Ponder=On using the Fritz GUI?
Yes :wink:
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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released!

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gleperlier wrote:
ATOMICC wrote:
gleperlier wrote:
ATOMICC wrote:
A Distel wrote:
gleperlier wrote:Hello,

Strelka doesn't work on Fritz13 GUI ? Is it UCI ?


I'm sorry. I should have clarified. Will it run games with Ponder=On using the Fritz GUI?
Yes :wink:
Thank you, Gabriel! :)
Happy chessing!
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Re: Strelka 5.5 x32 is released....

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Houdini wrote: Nobody seems to be able to reproduce this result at more normal time controls, can you?
I wasted some CPU time to play an 8000-game match between Houdini 1.5a and Strelka 5.5 at time control 8"+0.08". Houdini 1.5a won:

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   1 Houdini 1.5a w32   12 8000.0 (4280.5 : 3719.5)
                           8000.0 (4280.5 : 3719.5)
   2 Strelka 5.5       -12 8000.0 (3719.5 : 4280.5)
                           8000.0 (3719.5 : 4280.5)
(note: this was played on hardware with SSE4.2, giving Houdini 1.5 a small speed advantage - at this TC worth about 5 to 10 Elo)

In analysis Strelka 5.5 and Strelka 5.1 produce nearly identical results - very often even identical node counts - the changes between the two versions must be minimal.
As far as I can see, Strelka 5.5 is still 99% search and eval of Houdini 1.5, with some other parts (e.g. the time management) taken from the Ivanhoe source.
In view of that, the reactions in this thread are hilarious... :lol: :lol:

Robert
At move/0.05s the result of 2,000 games match is:

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    Program                            Score     %       Elo    +   -    Draws

  1 Strelka 5.5                    : 1145.5/2000  57.3   3225   12  12   38.6 %
  2 Houdini 1.5a w32               :  854.5/2000  42.7   3175   12  12   38.6 %
+51 Elo points for Strelka. Also, for Arasan14 test suite (5s+1ply / position) the results are so much in favour of Strelka 5.5 that I am suspecting some oddity. Maybe I have to restart my comp and check for GUI bugs and such, but as of now Strelka seems clearly stronger.

Kai