Opponents for handicap match dragon-humans

[Father]

Is father playing?
[/quote]

Good evening Glav.
I don't know the mechanics of the tournament. I have not been invited to play and I do not know if it is an open entry tournament or if it requires some type of prerequisite. Consequently I will not be playing in the tournament against the robots. Furthermore, this week has been a very difficult week for me, a great friend has been called by our Programmer to eternal life and this has been a painful surprise. Today is my good friend's funeral and from my desk I raise a prayer written with the depths of my human algorithm. The sentence consists of an artistic match in chess that I am going to publish here in the chat and that I have achieved
just a few minutes ago against high complexity LeelaKnightOdds, which I just played at 3 minute 2 second increment time control. As always I continue riding on my Catecan wooden horse, in this I fly through the clouds and stars looking for happiness driven by the hope of a better life that lasts forever in love. The second and minute hands of my algorithm's clock mark the footsteps of my horse and prove that it is running out second by second; The flag will fall and those who study the steps of the path will be able to follow it if they want..."Walker, there is no path,
the path is made by walking,
and when I look back,
you look at the path
that must never be stepped on again. Walker there is no path, the path is made by walking.!!

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/qS3Vq8ny"]
[Date "2025.02.14"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "qS3Vq8ny"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.14"]
[UTCTime "04:57:31"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 g6 2. f4 d5 3. e3 Bg7 4. Nf3 O-O 5. c3 c5 6. a3 Qc7 7. b4 c4 8. a4 Nd7 9. Be2 Nf6 10. O-O b6 11. Qc2 Bf5 12. Qb2 Ne8 13. Nh4 Bd7 14. Nf3 Nd6 15. Nbd2 f6 16. Re1 Bf5 17. Nh4 Bd7 18. Nhf3 Rae8 19. Nf1 a6 20. a5 b5 21. Ra2 Qa7 22. Bd1 Bf5 23. Bc2 Be4 24. N3d2 f5 25. Bxe4 fxe4 26. g3 Qd7 27. Re2 g5 28. Rg2 h5 29. Nb1 Qh3 30. Qe2 e6 31. Bd2 Bf6 32. Be1 Kf7 33. Kh1 Rh8 34. Rg1 Reg8 35. Qg2 Qf5 36. Re2 Ke8 37. Rf2 Kd7 38. Nbd2 g4 39. Re2 Be7 40. Rf2 Qf8 41. Re2 Rg7 42. Rf2 Qg8 43. Re2 Rhh7 44. Rf2 Qf8 45. Re2 Qa8 46. Rf2 Nf5 47. Nb1 h4 48. Re2 Qh8 49. Rc2 Rg6 50. Re2 hxg3 51. Bxg3 Rh3 52. Qf2 Bf6 53. Rg2 Kc6 54. Kg1 Rgh6 55. Rc2 Kd7 56. Re2 Qh7 57. Rc2 Be7 58. Re2 Qh8 59. Rc2 Qh7 60. Re2 Bf6 61. Rc2 Qh8 62. Re2 Be7 63. Rc2 Kc8 64. Re2 Rg6 65. Rc2 Kb7 66. Re2 Rgh6 67. Rc2 Qh7 68. Re2 Rg6 69. Rc2 Rg7 70. Re2 Qh8 71. Rc2 Qh6 72. Re2 Qh7 73. Rc2 Bh4 74. Re2 Qh8 75. Rc2 Kc6 76. Re2 Kd7 77. Rc2 Ke8 78. Re2 Kf7 79. Rc2 Rh7 80. Re2 Bxg3 81. Rxg3 Rg7 82. Qg2 Rh6 83. Nbd2 Nh4 84. Qf2 Qh7 85. Kh1 Qf5 86. Kg1 Rgg6 87. Kh1 Rh8 88. Kg1 Rg7 89. Kh1 Rhg8 90. Kg1 Rh7 91. Kh1 Rg6 92. Kg1 Rh5 93. Kh1 Rh8 94. Kg1 Rgh6 95. Kh1 Rg8 96. Kg1 Ke7 97. Kh1 Kf7 98. Kg1 Rg7 99. Kh1 Rhh7 100. Kg1 Rg6 101. Kh1 Rhh6 102. Kg1 Rh8 103. Kh1 Rg7 104. Kg1 Rgh7 105. Kh1 Rh6 106. Kg1 Ke7 107. Kh1 Rg8 108. Kg1 Qh7 109. Kh1 Kf7 110. Kg1 Ke7 111. Kh1 Kf8 112. Kg1 Kf7 113. Kh1 Ke7 114. Kg1 Kd7 115. Kh1 Ke7 116. Kg1 Kf7 117. Kh1 Rg7 118. Kg1 Ke8 119. Kh1 Kd7 120. Kg1 Rg8 121. Kh1 Ke8 122. Kg1 Rgg6 123. Kh1 Kd8 124. Kg1 Kd7 125. Kh1 Ke8 126. Kg1 Nf3+ 127. Kh1 Nh4 128. Kg1 Nf5 129. Kh1 Nh4 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
[/quote]

Good morning Gav.
I believe that the top 100 results list board of human players facing "LeelaQueenOdds" will soon "shake". A school of piranhas swim in a crystalline lake, they are fed small pieces of meat, all fighting among themselves to get a bite of the fillet. Only the 100 strongest will survive, this seems more and more like a "heart attack ending to the action movie." Today I was surprised to observe within the shoal a piranha that stood out among the others, it was the human IMwannabe2700. At the rate of 1 minute and 1 second increase in which this fish swims, it could soon put it at number one on the list of 100. Others strong chess playewrs are also swimming at great speed. Now ... in the time control of 1 minute without increment, I basically observe only a strange fish called Catecan, it looks like a "sea horse" and this rare variety from the eastern tropics is typical of ferocity. Catecan fish philosophically resembles the meaning of the expression "pragmatism." "Pragmatism is a philosophical movement that emerged in the United States at the end of the 19th century. Its creators were Charles Sanders Peirce, John Dewey and William James. It comes from the Greek word 'pragma', which means "fact", "act", "concrete situation"." ... but ... having opened the lake of different fishes for the chess battle of men against machines has undoubtedly resulted, results and will result in the vital development of the human being, AI, chess and life.

[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/HUr65QUH"]
[Date "2025.02.14"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "wannabe2700"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "HUr65QUH"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.14"]
[UTCTime "12:43:32"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2734"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[BlackTitle "IM"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. h4 Bf5 5. Nge2 e6 6. Be3 Bb4 7. O-O-O Nd5 8. Nxd5 exd5 9. Nf4 c6 10. Be2 Bd6 11. g4 Bxf4 12. Bxf4 Be6 13. g5 Nd7 14. h5 h6 15. Rdg1 hxg5 16. Bxg5 f6 17. Bd2 Qe7 18. Ba5 b6 19. Bd2 O-O-O 20. Ba6+ Kb8 21. a4 Ka8 22. Rg3 Nb8 23. Be2 Rh6 24. a5 Rh7 25. axb6 axb6 26. Ra3+ Kb7 27. Rg1 b5 28. Ba5 Rdh8 29. Kd2 Bf7 30. Rga1 Bxh5 31. Bf1 Bf3 32. Bc3 Kc8 33. Ra7 Qxa7 34. Rxa7 g5 35. Ra1 Rh1 36. Bb4 Kb7 37. Be7 R8h6 38. b3 Nd7 39. c4 Bg2 40. cxd5 cxd5 41. Ra5 Rxf1 42. Kc3 Rxf2 43. Rxb5+ Kc6 44. Ra5 Rh3+ 45. Kb4 Rd2 46. Ra6+ Kb7 47. Rd6 Rxd4+ 48. Ka5 Rxb3 49. Rxd7+ Kc6 50. Rd6+ Kc7 51. Rxf6 Rd1 52. Ka4 Rb7 53. Rf7 Ra1+ 54. Ba3+ Kb8 55. Rf8+ Ka7 56. Rf6 Bf3 57. Ra6+ Kb8 58. Rb6 Rxa3+ 59. Kb5 Rxb6+ 60. Kxb6 Rc3 61. Kb5 Rc4 62. Kb6 g4 63. Ka6 g3 64. Kb5 g2 65. Kb6 g1=Q+ 66. Ka6 Qa1+ 67. Kb6 Qb2+ 68. Ka5 Qa3+ 69. Kb6 Qb3+ 70. Ka5 Ra4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/Ht8Mj30V"]
[Date "2025.02.14"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "Ht8Mj30V"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.14"]
[UTCTime "13:12:16"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 g6 2. f4 d5 3. e3 Bg7 4. c3 c5 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 Nd7 7. Bd3 Qc7 8. b4 c4 9. Bc2 Nf6 10. a4 Ne4 11. Nfd2 f5 12. g3 a6 13. Rg1 Kh8 14. Rg2 Bd7 15. Nf3 Rg8 16. Bxe4 dxe4 17. Ne5 Be6 18. h4 Bf6 19. Qe2 Bxe5 20. fxe5 Qd7 21. Kd2 Rg7 22. Kc2 h6 23. Bd2 Kh7 24. Be1 Qc6 25. Nd2 Bd5 26. Nf1 h5 27. Rh2 Rgg8 28. Bd2 Kg7 29. Be1 Kf7 30. Bd2 Be6 31. Be1 b6 32. Bd2 Rh8 33. Be1 Rhg8 34. Bd2 Rh8 35. Be1 Rag8 36. Bd2 Rd8 37. Be1 Kg7 38. Bd2 Kf7 39. Be1 Qb7 40. Bd2 Qc7 41. Be1 Qc6 42. Bd2 Qc7 43. Be1 Qb7 44. Bd2 Ra8 45. Be1 Kg7 46. Bd2 Kf7 47. Be1 Rac8 48. Bd2 Rb8 49. Be1 Kg7 50. Bd2 Qd7 51. Be1 Kf7 52. Bd2 Kg7 53. Be1 Qb7 54. Bd2 Ra8 55. Be1 Kf7 56. Bd2 Kg7 57. Be1 Rhb8 58. Bd2 Qd7 59. Be1 Qb7 60. Bd2 Qd7 61. Be1 Rb7 62. Bd2 Rba7 63. Be1 Rb7 64. Bd2 Rc8 65. Be1 Ra7 66. Bd2 Raa8 67. Be1 Ra7 68. Bd2 Rh8 69. Be1 Rb7 70. Bd2 Ra7 71. Be1 Rd8 72. Bd2 Rc7 73. Be1 Rb7 74. Bd2 Rc7 75. Qe1 Ra7 76. Qe2 Rb7 77. Be1 Rbb8 78. Bd2 Rb7 79. Be1 Ra7 80. Bd2 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Father]

I wish you all a happy Valentine's Day!! I thank the Leela team and their human collaborators for introducing us to robots and for allowing us to swim with them in the lake of our existence. Long life, blessings, and the best energy for human algorithms.!!

[Father]

I'm impressed how much difference a time control makes. As I remember, GM Ben Finegold (and you are not!) struggled at 15+10. Yesterday much lower rated players scored equally well, or maybe even better, at 90+30.

Well, you say he "struggled", but he did win 4 to 2, better than the 8 to 5 score of the humans yesterday. But his FIDE rating was about 280 above their average rating, so the long time control for the humans (together with the simul handicap and no ponder for Dragon) did help them by a bit over a class (200 elo). I would guess my own chess play improves about a class going from Rapid to Classical.

Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning Mr. Uri Blass, I wish everyone on the forum a good day and week.
For me currently, part of the clock time that governs the time control of the life of my body, my mind and my algorithm, I am using it watching LeelaQueenOdds play and another part of the time playing 3+2 time control against LeelaknightOdds, the latter in order to reach the zone warning of signs of better paths against the robots. I am surprised by "the intelligence of these two cybernetic creatures." I try to "understand" them and there goes my goal. I have asked myself, Mr. Larry Kaufman, what would happen if, leaving the algorithmic guidelines of LeelaQueenOdds unchanged, you let him play with all the elements. Would this lead to the creation of "an ancient titan chess robot?" In advance I thank everyone for enlightening me with the science and knowledge that rests and lives within each brain, body and algorithm of a human being.

[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/rL2NfAYg"]
[Date "2025.02.18"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "rL2NfAYg"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.18"]
[UTCTime "12:59:21"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d3 d5 2. f4 e6 3. Nf3 c6 4. Bd2 f5 5. h3 Nf6 6. e3 Bd6 7. g4 O-O 8. g5 Nh5 9. Kf2 g6 10. Be2 Bd7 11. d4 Be8 12. b4 a6 13. a4 b5 14. a5 Rf7 15. Rg1 Rg7 16. Ke1 Raa7 17. h4 Rae7 18. Rb1 Bf7 19. Bc3 Kf8 20. Kd2 Ke8 21. Ne1 Kd7 22. Nd3 Ke8 23. Kc1 Kd7 24. Kb2 Ke8 25. Nc5 Qc8 26. Nd3 Kd8 27. Nc5 Ke8 28. Ka1 Kd8 29. Bb2 Ke8 30. Qd2 Kd8 31. Qd1 Ke8 32. Bc3 Kd8 33. Nd3 Ke8 34. Bf3 Kd8 35. Nc5 Ke8 36. Qd3 Kd8 37. Qd2 Ke8 38. Nd3 Kd8 39. Nc5 Ke8 40. Nd3 Kd8 41. Bb2 Ke8 42. Ka2 Kd8 43. Nc5 Ke8 44. Nd3 Kd8 45. Ka1 Ke8 46. Rbc1 Kd8 47. Nc5 Ke8 48. Ka2 Kd8 49. Kb1 Ke8 50. Ka1 Kd8 51. Ka2 Ke8 52. Ka1 Kd8 53. Ka2 Ke8 54. Rce1 Kd8 55. Ka1 Ke8 56. Ka2 Kd8 57. Ka1 Ke8 58. Rd1 Kd8 59. Rc1 Ke8 60. Ka2 Kd8 61. Ra1 Ke8 62. Nd3 Kd8 63. Nc5 Ke8 64. Kb3 Kd8 65. Nd3 Ke8 66. Ka2 Kd8 67. Nc5 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[lkaufman]

I'm impressed how much difference a time control makes. As I remember, GM Ben Finegold (and you are not!) struggled at 15+10. Yesterday much lower rated players scored equally well, or maybe even better, at 90+30.

Well, you say he "struggled", but he did win 4 to 2, better than the 8 to 5 score of the humans yesterday. But his FIDE rating was about 280 above their average rating, so the long time control for the humans (together with the simul handicap and no ponder for Dragon) did help them by a bit over a class (200 elo). I would guess my own chess play improves about a class going from Rapid to Classical.

Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning Mr. Uri Blass, I wish everyone on the forum a good day and week.
For me currently, part of the clock time that governs the time control of the life of my body, my mind and my algorithm, I am using it watching LeelaQueenOdds play and another part of the time playing 3+2 time control against LeelaknightOdds, the latter in order to reach the zone warning of signs of better paths against the robots. I am surprised by "the intelligence of these two cybernetic creatures." I try to "understand" them and there goes my goal. I have asked myself, Mr. Larry Kaufman, what would happen if, leaving the algorithmic guidelines of LeelaQueenOdds unchanged, you let him play with all the elements. Would this lead to the creation of "an ancient titan chess robot?" In advance I thank everyone for enlightening me with the science and knowledge that rests and lives within each brain, body and algorithm of a human being.

If LeelaQueenOdds played standard chess, no handicap, of course it would crush all human opponents, but so would any strong engine. If it played against other top engines, it would score very poorly. It relies on the opponent being unable to see more than a couple moves ahead in general.

[Father]

...an interesting tie of man against machine. The strategic plan must be carried out through calm and slow maneuvers within a stormy sea.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/I363ir0L"]
[Date "2025.02.19"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "I363ir0L"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.19"]
[UTCTime "22:10:33"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 c5 2. c3 b6 3. f4 e6 4. e3 Qc7 5. Nf3 Be7 6. a3 Nc6 7. Bd3 d5 8. O-O O-O 9. b4 Bd7 10. Qe2 f6 11. Re1 Rfe8 12. Bb2 c4 13. Bc2 b5 14. Nbd2 a5 15. g3 f5 16. Nf1 Kh8 17. Qd2 Rf8 18. Re2 Ra6 19. Rg2 Rfa8 20. Rb1 axb4 21. axb4 Ra2 22. Qc1 Be8 23. Ra1 Rxa1 24. Bxa1 Bh5 25. Rf2 Bg4 26. Bb2 Bh3 27. Re2 Ra2 28. Re1 h6 29. Bd1 Qa7 30. Re2 Bf6 31. Rc2 Ne7 32. Rf2 Nc8 33. Rd2 Nd6 34. Re2 g5 35. Re1 Qf7 36. N3d2 g4 37. Be2 h5 38. Qc2 Ra8 39. Ra1 Rd8 40. Bc1 Kg7 41. Nb1 Qb7 42. Bd2 Kg6 43. Be1 Rb8 44. Nfd2 Qh7 45. Bf1 Bxf1 46. Nxf1 Bd8 47. Ra3 Bb6 48. Qa2 Qb7 49. Qc2 Rd8 50. Qa2 Kf7 51. Qc2 Ke7 52. Qa2 Kd7 53. Qc2 Kc6 54. Qa2 Rh8 55. Qc2 Qg7 56. Qa2 Kb7 57. Qa1 Qh7 58. Qa2 Qd7 59. Qa1 Qc6 60. Qa2 Qc8 61. Qa1 Qd7 62. Qa2 Rg8 63. Qa1 Rh8 64. Qb2 Qc6 65. Qa1 Qe8 66. Qb2 Qc6 67. Qa1 Qe8 68. Qb2 Qb8 69. Qa1 Kc6 70. Qb2 Kb7 71. Qa1 Qf8 72. Qb2 Qf6 73. Qa1 Qf8 74. Qb2 Qf6 75. Qa1 Rf8 76. Qb2 Rg8 77. Qa1 Rh8 78. Qb2 Rg8 79. Qa1 Rf8 80. Qb2 Qh8 81. Qa1 Qg8 82. Qb2 Qh8 83. Qa1 Re8 84. Qb2 Rg8 85. Qa1 Rf8 86. Qb2 Rg8 87. Qa1 Re8 88. Qb2 Qh7 89. Qa1 Rh8 90. Qb2 Rg8 91. Qa1 Qh8 92. Qb2 Qh7 93. Qa1 Qh8 94. Qb2 Qh7 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Father]

...an interesting tie of man against machine. The strategic plan must be carried out through calm and slow maneuvers within a stormy sea.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/I363ir0L"]
[Date "2025.02.19"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "I363ir0L"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.19"]
[UTCTime "22:10:33"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 c5 2. c3 b6 3. f4 e6 4. e3 Qc7 5. Nf3 Be7 6. a3 Nc6 7. Bd3 d5 8. O-O O-O 9. b4 Bd7 10. Qe2 f6 11. Re1 Rfe8 12. Bb2 c4 13. Bc2 b5 14. Nbd2 a5 15. g3 f5 16. Nf1 Kh8 17. Qd2 Rf8 18. Re2 Ra6 19. Rg2 Rfa8 20. Rb1 axb4 21. axb4 Ra2 22. Qc1 Be8 23. Ra1 Rxa1 24. Bxa1 Bh5 25. Rf2 Bg4 26. Bb2 Bh3 27. Re2 Ra2 28. Re1 h6 29. Bd1 Qa7 30. Re2 Bf6 31. Rc2 Ne7 32. Rf2 Nc8 33. Rd2 Nd6 34. Re2 g5 35. Re1 Qf7 36. N3d2 g4 37. Be2 h5 38. Qc2 Ra8 39. Ra1 Rd8 40. Bc1 Kg7 41. Nb1 Qb7 42. Bd2 Kg6 43. Be1 Rb8 44. Nfd2 Qh7 45. Bf1 Bxf1 46. Nxf1 Bd8 47. Ra3 Bb6 48. Qa2 Qb7 49. Qc2 Rd8 50. Qa2 Kf7 51. Qc2 Ke7 52. Qa2 Kd7 53. Qc2 Kc6 54. Qa2 Rh8 55. Qc2 Qg7 56. Qa2 Kb7 57. Qa1 Qh7 58. Qa2 Qd7 59. Qa1 Qc6 60. Qa2 Qc8 61. Qa1 Qd7 62. Qa2 Rg8 63. Qa1 Rh8 64. Qb2 Qc6 65. Qa1 Qe8 66. Qb2 Qc6 67. Qa1 Qe8 68. Qb2 Qb8 69. Qa1 Kc6 70. Qb2 Kb7 71. Qa1 Qf8 72. Qb2 Qf6 73. Qa1 Qf8 74. Qb2 Qf6 75. Qa1 Rf8 76. Qb2 Rg8 77. Qa1 Rh8 78. Qb2 Rg8 79. Qa1 Rf8 80. Qb2 Qh8 81. Qa1 Qg8 82. Qb2 Qh8 83. Qa1 Re8 84. Qb2 Rg8 85. Qa1 Rf8 86. Qb2 Rg8 87. Qa1 Re8 88. Qb2 Qh7 89. Qa1 Rh8 90. Qb2 Rg8 91. Qa1 Qh8 92. Qb2 Qh7 93. Qa1 Qh8 94. Qb2 Qh7 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Good afternoon Mr. Larry Kaufman. I have a question that I am not able to answer, because it should be answered only by professionals or GMs. Specifically
I wonder if these final positions of usual draws against robots, if resumed or conducted by a GM, can force the victory of the human against the computer? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

[lkaufman]

...an interesting tie of man against machine. The strategic plan must be carried out through calm and slow maneuvers within a stormy sea.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/I363ir0L"]
[Date "2025.02.19"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "I363ir0L"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.19"]
[UTCTime "22:10:33"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 c5 2. c3 b6 3. f4 e6 4. e3 Qc7 5. Nf3 Be7 6. a3 Nc6 7. Bd3 d5 8. O-O O-O 9. b4 Bd7 10. Qe2 f6 11. Re1 Rfe8 12. Bb2 c4 13. Bc2 b5 14. Nbd2 a5 15. g3 f5 16. Nf1 Kh8 17. Qd2 Rf8 18. Re2 Ra6 19. Rg2 Rfa8 20. Rb1 axb4 21. axb4 Ra2 22. Qc1 Be8 23. Ra1 Rxa1 24. Bxa1 Bh5 25. Rf2 Bg4 26. Bb2 Bh3 27. Re2 Ra2 28. Re1 h6 29. Bd1 Qa7 30. Re2 Bf6 31. Rc2 Ne7 32. Rf2 Nc8 33. Rd2 Nd6 34. Re2 g5 35. Re1 Qf7 36. N3d2 g4 37. Be2 h5 38. Qc2 Ra8 39. Ra1 Rd8 40. Bc1 Kg7 41. Nb1 Qb7 42. Bd2 Kg6 43. Be1 Rb8 44. Nfd2 Qh7 45. Bf1 Bxf1 46. Nxf1 Bd8 47. Ra3 Bb6 48. Qa2 Qb7 49. Qc2 Rd8 50. Qa2 Kf7 51. Qc2 Ke7 52. Qa2 Kd7 53. Qc2 Kc6 54. Qa2 Rh8 55. Qc2 Qg7 56. Qa2 Kb7 57. Qa1 Qh7 58. Qa2 Qd7 59. Qa1 Qc6 60. Qa2 Qc8 61. Qa1 Qd7 62. Qa2 Rg8 63. Qa1 Rh8 64. Qb2 Qc6 65. Qa1 Qe8 66. Qb2 Qc6 67. Qa1 Qe8 68. Qb2 Qb8 69. Qa1 Kc6 70. Qb2 Kb7 71. Qa1 Qf8 72. Qb2 Qf6 73. Qa1 Qf8 74. Qb2 Qf6 75. Qa1 Rf8 76. Qb2 Rg8 77. Qa1 Rh8 78. Qb2 Rg8 79. Qa1 Rf8 80. Qb2 Qh8 81. Qa1 Qg8 82. Qb2 Qh8 83. Qa1 Re8 84. Qb2 Rg8 85. Qa1 Rf8 86. Qb2 Rg8 87. Qa1 Re8 88. Qb2 Qh7 89. Qa1 Rh8 90. Qb2 Rg8 91. Qa1 Qh8 92. Qb2 Qh7 93. Qa1 Qh8 94. Qb2 Qh7 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Good afternoon Mr. Larry Kaufman. I have a question that I am not able to answer, because it should be answered only by professionals or GMs. Specifically
I wonder if these final positions of usual draws against robots, if resumed or conducted by a GM, can force the victory of the human against the computer? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

If you want to know whether it is possible for a Super-GM with lots of time (correspondence chess) to find a win, try playing out the positions using Stockfish for both sides. But if you are asking whether it is likely that a GM would win such positions in a classical time limit game, I think the answer is no, even if there is a theoretical win. These positions are ones that are very bad for White except for the extra piece, and the extreme closed nature of the positions makes a draw highly likely. Joel Benjamin could only come out one game ahead at a Classical level time control with knight odds, so how well would you expect him to do starting up maybe half a knight in a very drawish position? Your method of play is rather effective at persuading Leela to settle for a draw while still down by the full material handicap, even if the position is much improved, but it is very ineffective for winning. To win handicap games, normally you need to be able to trade down to an endgame, which is extremely difficult to do in very blocked positions. Sometimes you can give up a knight for two pawns in a blocked position to win when you are already a piece ahead, but Leela won't generally allow this to happen. The secret to Leela's success in giving odds to humans can be summarized like this: the best strategy to win with a handicap is to trade pieces, which requires a somewhat open position, but the best strategy for humans against computers in general is to play closed positions! So whatever you do, you have a problem if you want to win, you must play to the engine's strength to simplify! But if you only want a draw, there is no problem, just close the position.

[Father]

Is father playing?

Good evening Glav.
I don't know the mechanics of the tournament. I have not been invited to play and I do not know if it is an open entry tournament or if it requires some type of prerequisite. Consequently I will not be playing in the tournament against the robots. Furthermore, this week has been a very difficult week for me, a great friend has been called by our Programmer to eternal life and this has been a painful surprise. Today is my good friend's funeral and from my desk I raise a prayer written with the depths of my human algorithm. The sentence consists of an artistic match in chess that I am going to publish here in the chat and that I have achieved
just a few minutes ago against high complexity LeelaKnightOdds, which I just played at 3 minute 2 second increment time control. As always I continue riding on my Catecan wooden horse, in this I fly through the clouds and stars looking for happiness driven by the hope of a better life that lasts forever in love. The second and minute hands of my algorithm's clock mark the footsteps of my horse and prove that it is running out second by second; The flag will fall and those who study the steps of the path will be able to follow it if they want..."Walker, there is no path,
the path is made by walking,
and when I look back,
you look at the path
that must never be stepped on again. Walker there is no path, the path is made by walking.!!

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/qS3Vq8ny"]
[Date "2025.02.14"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "qS3Vq8ny"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.14"]
[UTCTime "04:57:31"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 g6 2. f4 d5 3. e3 Bg7 4. Nf3 O-O 5. c3 c5 6. a3 Qc7 7. b4 c4 8. a4 Nd7 9. Be2 Nf6 10. O-O b6 11. Qc2 Bf5 12. Qb2 Ne8 13. Nh4 Bd7 14. Nf3 Nd6 15. Nbd2 f6 16. Re1 Bf5 17. Nh4 Bd7 18. Nhf3 Rae8 19. Nf1 a6 20. a5 b5 21. Ra2 Qa7 22. Bd1 Bf5 23. Bc2 Be4 24. N3d2 f5 25. Bxe4 fxe4 26. g3 Qd7 27. Re2 g5 28. Rg2 h5 29. Nb1 Qh3 30. Qe2 e6 31. Bd2 Bf6 32. Be1 Kf7 33. Kh1 Rh8 34. Rg1 Reg8 35. Qg2 Qf5 36. Re2 Ke8 37. Rf2 Kd7 38. Nbd2 g4 39. Re2 Be7 40. Rf2 Qf8 41. Re2 Rg7 42. Rf2 Qg8 43. Re2 Rhh7 44. Rf2 Qf8 45. Re2 Qa8 46. Rf2 Nf5 47. Nb1 h4 48. Re2 Qh8 49. Rc2 Rg6 50. Re2 hxg3 51. Bxg3 Rh3 52. Qf2 Bf6 53. Rg2 Kc6 54. Kg1 Rgh6 55. Rc2 Kd7 56. Re2 Qh7 57. Rc2 Be7 58. Re2 Qh8 59. Rc2 Qh7 60. Re2 Bf6 61. Rc2 Qh8 62. Re2 Be7 63. Rc2 Kc8 64. Re2 Rg6 65. Rc2 Kb7 66. Re2 Rgh6 67. Rc2 Qh7 68. Re2 Rg6 69. Rc2 Rg7 70. Re2 Qh8 71. Rc2 Qh6 72. Re2 Qh7 73. Rc2 Bh4 74. Re2 Qh8 75. Rc2 Kc6 76. Re2 Kd7 77. Rc2 Ke8 78. Re2 Kf7 79. Rc2 Rh7 80. Re2 Bxg3 81. Rxg3 Rg7 82. Qg2 Rh6 83. Nbd2 Nh4 84. Qf2 Qh7 85. Kh1 Qf5 86. Kg1 Rgg6 87. Kh1 Rh8 88. Kg1 Rg7 89. Kh1 Rhg8 90. Kg1 Rh7 91. Kh1 Rg6 92. Kg1 Rh5 93. Kh1 Rh8 94. Kg1 Rgh6 95. Kh1 Rg8 96. Kg1 Ke7 97. Kh1 Kf7 98. Kg1 Rg7 99. Kh1 Rhh7 100. Kg1 Rg6 101. Kh1 Rhh6 102. Kg1 Rh8 103. Kh1 Rg7 104. Kg1 Rgh7 105. Kh1 Rh6 106. Kg1 Ke7 107. Kh1 Rg8 108. Kg1 Qh7 109. Kh1 Kf7 110. Kg1 Ke7 111. Kh1 Kf8 112. Kg1 Kf7 113. Kh1 Ke7 114. Kg1 Kd7 115. Kh1 Ke7 116. Kg1 Kf7 117. Kh1 Rg7 118. Kg1 Ke8 119. Kh1 Kd7 120. Kg1 Rg8 121. Kh1 Ke8 122. Kg1 Rgg6 123. Kh1 Kd8 124. Kg1 Kd7 125. Kh1 Ke8 126. Kg1 Nf3+ 127. Kh1 Nh4 128. Kg1 Nf5 129. Kh1 Nh4 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
[/quote]

Good morning Gav.
I believe that the top 100 results list board of human players facing "LeelaQueenOdds" will soon "shake". A school of piranhas swim in a crystalline lake, they are fed small pieces of meat, all fighting among themselves to get a bite of the fillet. Only the 100 strongest will survive, this seems more and more like a "heart attack ending to the action movie." Today I was surprised to observe within the shoal a piranha that stood out among the others, it was the human IMwannabe2700. At the rate of 1 minute and 1 second increase in which this fish swims, it could soon put it at number one on the list of 100. Others strong chess playewrs are also swimming at great speed. Now ... in the time control of 1 minute without increment, I basically observe only a strange fish called Catecan, it looks like a "sea horse" and this rare variety from the eastern tropics is typical of ferocity. Catecan fish philosophically resembles the meaning of the expression "pragmatism." "Pragmatism is a philosophical movement that emerged in the United States at the end of the 19th century. Its creators were Charles Sanders Peirce, John Dewey and William James. It comes from the Greek word 'pragma', which means "fact", "act", "concrete situation"." ... but ... having opened the lake of different fishes for the chess battle of men against machines has undoubtedly resulted, results and will result in the vital development of the human being, AI, chess and life.

[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/HUr65QUH"]
[Date "2025.02.14"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "wannabe2700"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "HUr65QUH"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.14"]
[UTCTime "12:43:32"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2734"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[BlackTitle "IM"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. h4 Bf5 5. Nge2 e6 6. Be3 Bb4 7. O-O-O Nd5 8. Nxd5 exd5 9. Nf4 c6 10. Be2 Bd6 11. g4 Bxf4 12. Bxf4 Be6 13. g5 Nd7 14. h5 h6 15. Rdg1 hxg5 16. Bxg5 f6 17. Bd2 Qe7 18. Ba5 b6 19. Bd2 O-O-O 20. Ba6+ Kb8 21. a4 Ka8 22. Rg3 Nb8 23. Be2 Rh6 24. a5 Rh7 25. axb6 axb6 26. Ra3+ Kb7 27. Rg1 b5 28. Ba5 Rdh8 29. Kd2 Bf7 30. Rga1 Bxh5 31. Bf1 Bf3 32. Bc3 Kc8 33. Ra7 Qxa7 34. Rxa7 g5 35. Ra1 Rh1 36. Bb4 Kb7 37. Be7 R8h6 38. b3 Nd7 39. c4 Bg2 40. cxd5 cxd5 41. Ra5 Rxf1 42. Kc3 Rxf2 43. Rxb5+ Kc6 44. Ra5 Rh3+ 45. Kb4 Rd2 46. Ra6+ Kb7 47. Rd6 Rxd4+ 48. Ka5 Rxb3 49. Rxd7+ Kc6 50. Rd6+ Kc7 51. Rxf6 Rd1 52. Ka4 Rb7 53. Rf7 Ra1+ 54. Ba3+ Kb8 55. Rf8+ Ka7 56. Rf6 Bf3 57. Ra6+ Kb8 58. Rb6 Rxa3+ 59. Kb5 Rxb6+ 60. Kxb6 Rc3 61. Kb5 Rc4 62. Kb6 g4 63. Ka6 g3 64. Kb5 g2 65. Kb6 g1=Q+ 66. Ka6 Qa1+ 67. Kb6 Qb2+ 68. Ka5 Qa3+ 69. Kb6 Qb3+ 70. Ka5 Ra4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/Ht8Mj30V"]
[Date "2025.02.14"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "Ht8Mj30V"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.14"]
[UTCTime "13:12:16"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 g6 2. f4 d5 3. e3 Bg7 4. c3 c5 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 Nd7 7. Bd3 Qc7 8. b4 c4 9. Bc2 Nf6 10. a4 Ne4 11. Nfd2 f5 12. g3 a6 13. Rg1 Kh8 14. Rg2 Bd7 15. Nf3 Rg8 16. Bxe4 dxe4 17. Ne5 Be6 18. h4 Bf6 19. Qe2 Bxe5 20. fxe5 Qd7 21. Kd2 Rg7 22. Kc2 h6 23. Bd2 Kh7 24. Be1 Qc6 25. Nd2 Bd5 26. Nf1 h5 27. Rh2 Rgg8 28. Bd2 Kg7 29. Be1 Kf7 30. Bd2 Be6 31. Be1 b6 32. Bd2 Rh8 33. Be1 Rhg8 34. Bd2 Rh8 35. Be1 Rag8 36. Bd2 Rd8 37. Be1 Kg7 38. Bd2 Kf7 39. Be1 Qb7 40. Bd2 Qc7 41. Be1 Qc6 42. Bd2 Qc7 43. Be1 Qb7 44. Bd2 Ra8 45. Be1 Kg7 46. Bd2 Kf7 47. Be1 Rac8 48. Bd2 Rb8 49. Be1 Kg7 50. Bd2 Qd7 51. Be1 Kf7 52. Bd2 Kg7 53. Be1 Qb7 54. Bd2 Ra8 55. Be1 Kf7 56. Bd2 Kg7 57. Be1 Rhb8 58. Bd2 Qd7 59. Be1 Qb7 60. Bd2 Qd7 61. Be1 Rb7 62. Bd2 Rba7 63. Be1 Rb7 64. Bd2 Rc8 65. Be1 Ra7 66. Bd2 Raa8 67. Be1 Ra7 68. Bd2 Rh8 69. Be1 Rb7 70. Bd2 Ra7 71. Be1 Rd8 72. Bd2 Rc7 73. Be1 Rb7 74. Bd2 Rc7 75. Qe1 Ra7 76. Qe2 Rb7 77. Be1 Rbb8 78. Bd2 Rb7 79. Be1 Ra7 80. Bd2 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
[/quote]

Inglés

...today I had the opportunity to observe and learn from giant human talents playing against the robot LeelaQueenOdds and I just want to say: Congratulations to GM Nikita Petrov.

[Father]

Good afternoon Mr. Larry Kaufman. I have a question that I am not able to answer, because it should be answered only by professionals or GMs. Specifically
I wonder if these final positions of usual draws against robots, if resumed or conducted by a GM, can force the victory of the human against the computer? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.
[/quote]

If you want to know whether it is possible for a Super-GM with lots of time (correspondence chess) to find a win, try playing out the positions using Stockfish for both sides. But if you are asking whether it is likely that a GM would win such positions in a classical time limit game, I think the answer is no, even if there is a theoretical win. These positions are ones that are very bad for White except for the extra piece, and the extreme closed nature of the positions makes a draw highly likely. Joel Benjamin could only come out one game ahead at a Classical level time control with knight odds, so how well would you expect him to do starting up maybe half a knight in a very drawish position? Your method of play is rather effective at persuading Leela to settle for a draw while still down by the full material handicap, even if the position is much improved, but it is very ineffective for winning. To win handicap games, normally you need to be able to trade down to an endgame, which is extremely difficult to do in very blocked positions. Sometimes you can give up a knight for two pawns in a blocked position to win when you are already a piece ahead, but Leela won't generally allow this to happen. The secret to Leela's success in giving odds to humans can be summarized like this: the best strategy to win with a handicap is to trade pieces, which requires a somewhat open position, but the best strategy for humans against computers in general is to play closed positions! So whatever you do, you have a problem if you want to win, you must play to the engine's strength to simplify! But if you only want a draw, there is no problem, just close the position.
[/quote]

Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman. Thank you very much for your response. Your concept leads me to consider that in addition to the fast one-minute games that I am used to playing against the computer, there are also more opportunities for more extensive time controls that allow us to look further. I have tried some games at 3 minutes with the addition of 2 seconds and I myself am surprised by the greater capacity for long-term planning that these time controls allow us humans to develop. The next game I post differs from the ones a minute later in the sense that "I thought deeper and deeper." The move 19... 19Ng1- was not a product of chance, it was "very premeditated" and long-range... a match on my part against these robots and even machines in their plenitude of elements, I think it could be very interesting... perhaps, even I could exist in my being the interest in this competition that was precisely how I started it 45 years ago against Chess Challenger Level 7o and subsequent years until 1986. In the game that I publish below there is many new inherent and complex ideas that are converted into formulations. For my part, I will always be grateful to you for your teachings about chess and computers that I have been able to access through this forum. I wish you a happy day and a good weekend.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/3cE5StEH"]
[Date "2025.02.21"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "3cE5StEH"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.21"]
[UTCTime "15:24:09"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 e6 2. f4 Be7 3. e3 c5 4. c3 d5 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 Qc7 7. b4 c4 8. a4 Nd7 9. Be2 b6 10. O-O Bb7 11. Re1 a6 12. Bf1 b5 13. a5 Nf6 14. Kh1 Rad8 15. Ng1 Ne8 16. Nf3 f6 17. Ra2 Nd6 18. Rae2 Ne4 19. Nfd2 Bd6 20. Qc2 Kh8 21. g3 g5 22. Bg2 f5 23. Bf3 Qg7 24. Bg2 Rg8 25. Nf3 h6 26. Ne5 Nf6 27. Nd2 Qh7 28. Ndf3 Rg7 29. Bf1 Kg8 30. Rg2 g4 31. Nh4 Ne4 32. Ree2 Kh8 33. Bd2 Rdg8 34. Be1 Be7 35. Rg1 Bf6 36. Reg2 Bc8 37. Qb2 Bd7 38. Qc2 Be8 39. Qb2 Bf7 40. Qc2 Be8 41. Qb2 h5 42. Qc2 Rc7 43. Qb2 Qh6 44. Qc2 Rh7 45. Qb2 Qf8 46. Qc2 Qh6 47. Qb2 Qg7 48. Qc2 Rh6 49. Qb2 Qe7 50. Qc2 Rh7 51. Qb2 Kg7 52. Qc2 Kf8 53. Qb2 Qg7 54. Qc2 Qe7 55. Qb2 Qb7 56. Qc2 Rhg7 57. Qb2 Rh7 58. Qc2 Qa8 59. Qb2 Rb7 60. Qc2 Qd8 61. Qb2 Rh7 62. Qc2 Qa8 63. Qb2 Rb7 64. Qc2 Qd8 65. Qb2 Rh7 66. Qc2 Rc7 67. Qb2 Ra7 68. Qc2 Qa8 69. Qb2 Qd8 70. Qc2 Rc7 71. Qb2 Qa8 72. Qc2 Nd6 73. Qb2 Ne4 74. Qc2 Ke7 75. Qb2 Kd8 76. Qc2 Kc8 77. Qb2 Kb7 78. Qc2 Ka7 79. Qb2 Kb7 80. Qa3 Kc8 81. Qb2 Kb8 82. Qa3 Ka7 83. Qb2 Bc6 84. Qa3 Bb7 85. Qb2 Bxe5 86. fxe5 Ng5 87. Rf2 Rcg7 88. Rf4 Qe8 89. Bg2 Kb8 90. Qe2 Qd8 91. Qc2 Qe8 92. Qe2 Ka8 93. Qc2 Kb8 94. Qe2 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Father]

Good afternoon Mr. Larry Kaufman. I have a question that I am not able to answer, because it should be answered only by professionals or GMs. Specifically
I wonder if these final positions of usual draws against robots, if resumed or conducted by a GM, can force the victory of the human against the computer? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

If you want to know whether it is possible for a Super-GM with lots of time (correspondence chess) to find a win, try playing out the positions using Stockfish for both sides. But if you are asking whether it is likely that a GM would win such positions in a classical time limit game, I think the answer is no, even if there is a theoretical win. These positions are ones that are very bad for White except for the extra piece, and the extreme closed nature of the positions makes a draw highly likely. Joel Benjamin could only come out one game ahead at a Classical level time control with knight odds, so how well would you expect him to do starting up maybe half a knight in a very drawish position? Your method of play is rather effective at persuading Leela to settle for a draw while still down by the full material handicap, even if the position is much improved, but it is very ineffective for winning. To win handicap games, normally you need to be able to trade down to an endgame, which is extremely difficult to do in very blocked positions. Sometimes you can give up a knight for two pawns in a blocked position to win when you are already a piece ahead, but Leela won't generally allow this to happen. The secret to Leela's success in giving odds to humans can be summarized like this: the best strategy to win with a handicap is to trade pieces, which requires a somewhat open position, but the best strategy for humans against computers in general is to play closed positions! So whatever you do, you have a problem if you want to win, you must play to the engine's strength to simplify! But if you only want a draw, there is no problem, just close the position.
[/quote]

Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman. Thank you very much for your response. Your concept leads me to consider that in addition to the fast one-minute games that I am used to playing against the computer, there are also more opportunities for more extensive time controls that allow us to look further. I have tried some games at 3 minutes with the addition of 2 seconds and I myself am surprised by the greater capacity for long-term planning that these time controls allow us humans to develop. The next game I post differs from the ones a minute later in the sense that "I thought deeper and deeper." The move 19... 19Ng1- was not a product of chance, it was "very premeditated" and long-range... a match on my part against these robots and even machines in their plenitude of elements, I think it could be very interesting... perhaps, even I could exist in my being the interest in this competition that was precisely how I started it 45 years ago against Chess Challenger Level 7o and subsequent years until 1986. In the game that I publish below there is many new inherent and complex ideas that are converted into formulations. For my part, I will always be grateful to you for your teachings about chess and computers that I have been able to access through this forum. I wish you a happy day and a good weekend.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/3cE5StEH"]
[Date "2025.02.21"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "3cE5StEH"]
[UTCDate "2025.02.21"]
[UTCTime "15:24:09"]
[WhiteElo "2082"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 e6 2. f4 Be7 3. e3 c5 4. c3 d5 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 Qc7 7. b4 c4 8. a4 Nd7 9. Be2 b6 10. O-O Bb7 11. Re1 a6 12. Bf1 b5 13. a5 Nf6 14. Kh1 Rad8 15. Ng1 Ne8 16. Nf3 f6 17. Ra2 Nd6 18. Rae2 Ne4 19. Nfd2 Bd6 20. Qc2 Kh8 21. g3 g5 22. Bg2 f5 23. Bf3 Qg7 24. Bg2 Rg8 25. Nf3 h6 26. Ne5 Nf6 27. Nd2 Qh7 28. Ndf3 Rg7 29. Bf1 Kg8 30. Rg2 g4 31. Nh4 Ne4 32. Ree2 Kh8 33. Bd2 Rdg8 34. Be1 Be7 35. Rg1 Bf6 36. Reg2 Bc8 37. Qb2 Bd7 38. Qc2 Be8 39. Qb2 Bf7 40. Qc2 Be8 41. Qb2 h5 42. Qc2 Rc7 43. Qb2 Qh6 44. Qc2 Rh7 45. Qb2 Qf8 46. Qc2 Qh6 47. Qb2 Qg7 48. Qc2 Rh6 49. Qb2 Qe7 50. Qc2 Rh7 51. Qb2 Kg7 52. Qc2 Kf8 53. Qb2 Qg7 54. Qc2 Qe7 55. Qb2 Qb7 56. Qc2 Rhg7 57. Qb2 Rh7 58. Qc2 Qa8 59. Qb2 Rb7 60. Qc2 Qd8 61. Qb2 Rh7 62. Qc2 Qa8 63. Qb2 Rb7 64. Qc2 Qd8 65. Qb2 Rh7 66. Qc2 Rc7 67. Qb2 Ra7 68. Qc2 Qa8 69. Qb2 Qd8 70. Qc2 Rc7 71. Qb2 Qa8 72. Qc2 Nd6 73. Qb2 Ne4 74. Qc2 Ke7 75. Qb2 Kd8 76. Qc2 Kc8 77. Qb2 Kb7 78. Qc2 Ka7 79. Qb2 Kb7 80. Qa3 Kc8 81. Qb2 Kb8 82. Qa3 Ka7 83. Qb2 Bc6 84. Qa3 Bb7 85. Qb2 Bxe5 86. fxe5 Ng5 87. Rf2 Rcg7 88. Rf4 Qe8 89. Bg2 Kb8 90. Qe2 Qd8 91. Qc2 Qe8 92. Qe2 Ka8 93. Qc2 Kb8 94. Qe2 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
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...some people have stated, and I say this without any apprehension, they have wanted to describe as "irrational and stupid" the game system that I have adopted against computers, and nothing more alien to rational truth. To understand the construction of the game, you must observe the defined strategic blocks of movement, which is why I call the reflection of the steps of the ladder in the direction of the small entrance to the CPU located in the moves 1,4,7,8,10,13,15-26,15-36 and lock. Regarding the opportunity and the possible and probable fact of facing myself in more extensive time controls, it exhausts me on a motivational level just to consider it, the effect of the silence of looking "inside myself" doomed to think beyond a minute of time control; It doesn't mean that I don't have the ability to go deeper, but it could be useless and tiring, but it raises the temperature of my brain and soul. On the other hand, I am aware that the destiny of the existence of the anti-machine system that I propose is in the hands of the programmers, who act as gods of the computer. The work table on which we humans compete is the machine created by humans, at one end you play your chess, at the other I play mine. Due to the parallel between chess, life and society, in terms of lock technology, the manuals teach that a plan B must always be left to open or cancel it, otherwise it would be necessary to demolish the castle in order to enter when the keys are lost. Completely closing all loopholes in the AI ​​could unleash chaos.