Recommendation for new PC?

[Werewolf]

Stockfish engine is far away from being optimized for Apple M1 devices.

So what OS do you use for chess on this machine?

I mean Apple M1 devices - the hardware not the software.
I’m using macOS for chess and also Parallels Windows 11 ARM for chess.

OK.
So on MacOS you run Banksia - that should work fine.
But on Windows running in Parallels you can only use 8 of your 10 cores. That would annoy me. I imagine Parallels will fix this in the next release.

[Magnum]

Stockfish engine is far away from being optimized for Apple M1 devices.

So what OS do you use for chess on this machine?

I mean Apple M1 devices - the hardware not the software.
I’m using macOS for chess and also Parallels Windows 11 ARM for chess.

OK.
So on MacOS you run Banksia - that should work fine.
But on Windows running in Parallels you can only use 8 of your 10 cores. That would annoy me. I imagine Parallels will fix this in the next release.

You could use 8 performance cores for chess and 2 efficiency cores for macOS, Safari browser, games…

[wickedpotus]

You could use 8 performance cores for chess and 2 efficiency cores for macOS, Safari browser, games…

You can't use the CPU fully, for chess, and even if you could performance of Apple is sub-par compared to similar priced modern alternatives, which also come with great GPU options, exetranlGPUs, etc for GPU-bound chess engines as a bonus.

[CornfedForever]

You could use 8 performance cores for chess and 2 efficiency cores for macOS, Safari browser, games…

You can't use the CPU fully, for chess, and even if you could performance of Apple is sub-par compared to similar priced modern alternatives, which also come with great GPU options, exetranlGPUs, etc for GPU-bound chess engines as a bonus.

It's the same for any set-up. ex: a 16 core Zen 5950x...you might have 16 cores/32 threads...but realistically most people using this for chess are going to want a core or 2 with which to do other things...else you have an expensive 'one trick pony'.

[Werewolf]

You could use 8 performance cores for chess and 2 efficiency cores for macOS, Safari browser, games…

You can't use the CPU fully, for chess, and even if you could performance of Apple is sub-par compared to similar priced modern alternatives, which also come with great GPU options, exetranlGPUs, etc for GPU-bound chess engines as a bonus.

It's the same for any set-up. ex: a 16 core Zen 5950x...you might have 16 cores/32 threads...but realistically most people using this for chess are going to want a core or 2 with which to do other things...else you have an expensive 'one trick pony'.

Nightmare for M1 Ultra users though. 20 physical cores, 8 of which would be useable for Windows

[wickedpotus]

It's the same for any set-up. ex: a 16 core Zen 5950x...you might have 16 cores/32 threads...but realistically most people using this for chess are going to want a core or 2 with which to do other things...else you have an expensive 'one trick pony'.

The difference is that those users are in control of their options, not the f*ing vendor of the hw...

[Chessqueen]

I would by a AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 series when it comes out in a few months.

In general, AMD's Ryzen 7000-series 'Raphael' processors look quite promising, especially if AMD can clock production six-core CPUs at 4.40 GHz. But let's wait for Zen 4-based production units and appropriate review at Tom's Hardware to verify our feelings.

[CornfedForever]

It's the same for any set-up. ex: a 16 core Zen 5950x...you might have 16 cores/32 threads...but realistically most people using this for chess are going to want a core or 2 with which to do other things...else you have an expensive 'one trick pony'.

The difference is that those users are in control of their options, not the f*ing vendor of the hw...

Perhaps you prefer those old 'space heaters' or 'floor heaters'. Get with the times, old man - Automatic Heat and Air is the way to go!

[wickedpotus]

Perhaps you prefer those old 'space heaters' or 'floor heaters'. Get with the times, old man - Automatic Heat and Air is the way to go!

I prefer good cooling solutions and high performing chess & gaming machines.. crybabies with overpriced, underperforming, poser-hw that don't know much about anything, are not my bag.. But i guess "stupid" is in fashion currently

https://www.imore.com/m2-macbook-pro-hi ... throttling

[CornfedForever]

Perhaps you prefer those old 'space heaters' or 'floor heaters'. Get with the times, old man - Automatic Heat and Air is the way to go!

I prefer good cooling solutions and high performing chess & gaming machines.. crybabies with overpriced, underperforming, poser-hw that don't know much about anything, are not my bag.. But i guess "stupid" is in fashion currently

https://www.imore.com/m2-macbook-pro-hi ... throttling

I would argue that an 'arrogant tunnelvision' and disparaging others behind the faceless wall of the internet' is and has been the overriding "fashion" for some time...and only seems to be getting worse. But perhaps they are the same....