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Re: Ban of member

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Alexander Schmidt wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:13 am
Damir wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:45 pm The fact that he does, and keep posting and violating the posts multiple times despite beeing warned several times, shows that there is
nothing wrong with him.
It seems you have no idea about the disease you are talking about. Anyone with a little common sense can see that he has issues and isn't doing it on purpose. Anyone can put him on the ignore list, and it should be possible to limit the number of posts/topics per user. Even if he is harassing members, I think it's inappropriate to just ostracize him.
Logical fallacy.

Yes, he has issues, but this doesn't in any way imply that he isn't doing it on purpose.

Also...
Alexander Schmidt wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:13 am Even if he is harassing members, I think it's inappropriate to just ostracize him.
Really?

Really? :roll:
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I think the problem of videos in signatures is mainly caused by the new phpBB version, which unlike previous versions automatically would replace any text string taken to be a URL to an image or video by embedding that image or video. I am not aware that this behavior could be switched off, or was switched off selectively for signatures. I had a look at Chessqueen's signature as it is now, and it appears to contain a URL without any BBcode tags surrounding it. If Chris has tried to switch off this behavior in signatures, it seems he did not succeed.
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Re: Ban of member

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Alexander Schmidt wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:13 am
Damir wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:45 pm The fact that he does, and keep posting and violating the posts multiple times despite beeing warned several times, shows that there is
nothing wrong with him.
It seems you have no idea about the disease you are talking about. Anyone with a little common sense can see that he has issues and isn't doing it on purpose. Anyone can put him on the ignore list, and it should be possible to limit the number of posts/topics per user. Even if he is harassing members, I think it's inappropriate to just ostracize him.
Funny joke you make there indeed.
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hgm wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:19 am I think the problem of videos in signatures is mainly caused by the new phpBB version, which unlike previous versions automatically would replace any text string taken to be a URL to an image or video by embedding that image or video. I am not aware that this behavior could be switched off, or was switched off selectively for signatures. I had a look at Chessqueen's signature as it is now, and it appears to contain a URL without any BBcode tags surrounding it. If Chris has tried to switch off this behavior in signatures, it seems he did not succeed.
viewtopic.php?p=965741#p965741
smatovic wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:14 am @mods: if members are annoyed by YT embed, you can deactivate that module, media embed plug in, in phpBB backend, IIRC in the "Extensions" section.

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Re: Ban of member

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BrendanJNorman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:18 am Yes, he has issues, but this doesn't in any way imply that he isn't doing it on purpose.
Well, I worked for some time in an old people's home and I can ensure you, he does. That's why I don't like to ban him just because people feel molested by his messages. He didn't insult people, on the contrary people insulted him.

Yes, but sure, it is much easier to ostracize people who are different..
BrendanJNorman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:18 am
Alexander Schmidt wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:13 am Even if he is harassing members, I think it's inappropriate to just ostracize him.
Really?
Really? :roll:
Again: Everyone who felt molested could have put him on the ignore list. That's why I wouldn't ban him. That's my opinion, and there is no need to toll eyes, kid.
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As wrote
That's why I wouldn't ban him
well AG i respect such thinking (without speculation(s) about the person); but the moderators here have quite
some experience in computer chess, and probably talk with each other; so I'll respect their decision (most likely
based on some history, complaints by quite a few, etc). And who knows what they already tried with the bloke/
My suggestion to ban him only from the general topics probably wouldn't be technically possible, but if so i now would
refer the queen to the chess players forum (instead of only the kindergarten); not that Anti-chess is a good chess variant
(Not), but he didn't know apparently. As for the general topics after all this is a forum about computer chess, grown in
a historical way, some guys did a lot of effort in getting it away from the American Icdchess,
https://www.chessprogramming.org/CCC
So I understand they don't want to let it being messed up by some odd person (for whatever reason; which may be
bordering on the free-will issue, but then in court an appeal to having no free will usually also doesn't make sense;
and you get referred to a shrink). NB i also don't think a certain mr C M was very funny (although he was in the past),
creative maybe but also imo sarcastic Whereas in general i do respect this forum; as well as the chess world in general;
of course you can suggest they mostly are lunatics well that then is your opinion, just like people thinking all modern
artists must be bonkers or so; see what i mean). Computer chess decades ago was the 'fruitfly' research of AI, and
we (or some of us) now know what kind of hype there now is about this topic and so-called AGI (while i still get
program crashes sometimes if eg. a right semicolon is missing (sigh) yeah access violation error, even in Linux).

PS it's clear that some here have different attitude regarding psychological understanding and tolerance, mr Viz (and
Guenther maybe): but we wall can can get 'issues' sooner or later, and maybe you will also get them later too (and
then remember this comment); but in the case of mr CQ it's not only about him Imo but the quality of the
-computer chess- forum (general topics) and again, i have no reason to complain to mr CW (Tforce, i'm not sure if
the comment some time ago by Cq about his memory problems was serious, i also can make a joke (here in
NL sometimes about others eg. about Korsakov, but that's not always serious. Indeed Cw we cannot speculate about
personalities only from online behavior, but moderators have the right to protect a forum from endless BS
especially if a majority (of active members) have complained. not that is such a big deal nowadays yo uknow ,
its not the UN or so (yes they are working on AGI guidelines :-) , so my 2 cnts. have a nice day.
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Re: Ban of member

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Well, it was not discussed with me...
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ok Harm, thx for your message,
well i suppose it's up to the moderators how to communicate amongst each other(s);
as for you being computer chess expert and now also moderator for sometimes i wonder
if it would be -technically- possible to ban someone only from a *sub*forum (general
topics) , thus letting mr Cq still being able to contaminate eg. (only) the chess players
subforum (*) on talkchess, But really plsz not the general topics forum which imo really
is (or imo should be_ more serious in its (historica) intent; and it seems to be an almost
(majority) democratic decision to block him there (tg))
vr groet
JK
8-)
(*)that would be fun but i don't think i would bother to look at it
PS i don't know this mr Cq, name supplied is jorge picado but i couldnt find any chess troll with
that name (only math prof but c'quack'' may have faked his name); for the rest i suggest you M's
whiz persons (no not kids) investigate the possibility of banning someone only from a subforum
(as for the general topics forum) . To be honest, personally i (also) became fedup with
mr CQ's unthoughtful(**)( messages ( as well s many more serious members, no need to
talk about personalities just the cognition that a forum was being contaminated (with
(lots of) bs)) for reasons many here understand,
(**) understatement
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Re: Ban of member

Post by Werewolf »

The only odd thing about this decision is how it took so long, and why it had to be on a technicality.

He has devastated this forum, driving away serious computer chess interest. Putting him on a personal ignore list doesn't undo the harm he does to people who browse the forum from the outside.

Very good call IMO, just a bit late in the day.
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Re: Ban of member

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Werewolf wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:16 pm The only odd thing about this decision is how it took so long, and why it had to be on a technicality.

He has devastated this forum, driving away serious computer chess interest. Putting him on a personal ignore list doesn't undo the harm he does to people who browse the forum from the outside.

Very good call IMO, just a bit late in the day.
should've happened some years ago indeed.