M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?

[AlexChess]

Bullet Tournament 1 minute/all between all best chess engines on Arena Win 10 ARM64 under Parallels Desktop 16.3 Mac M1



Regards, AlexChess

[mar]

not that I plan to waste my M1 on chess, but I might

That sums it up, I suppose. The thread is "M1 Apple Silicon for chess".

I have no personal grudge against any HW. I just think it is borderline fanboyism to compare HW and then don't optimize benches based on the HW used on more than one end. Of course, HT should be used on CPUs using it, everything else is limiting one CPU and optimizing for the other.
benches for each CPUs

exactly, now you get it. it's about M1 for chess whether or not I'll use my M1 for chess is none of your business. [Moderation] name-calling removed.

[smatovic]

As far as I got it the M1 has 4 vector 128b NEON pipelines per Firestorm core:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/ap ... eep-dive/2

can someone clarify how these are used for NNUE? Does SF utilize only one 128b pipeline, or can they be coupled to 512b?

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Srdja

[smatovic]

As far as I got it the M1 has 4 vector 128b NEON pipelines per Firestorm core:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/ap ... eep-dive/2

can someone clarify how these are used for NNUE? Does SF utilize only one 128b pipeline, or can they be coupled to 512b?

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Srdja

According to SF and Cfish sources the used NEON SIMD width is 128 bit:

https://github.com/syzygy1/Cfish/blob/m ... nue.c#L161

ARM introduced SVE2 SIMD units with up to 2048 bits for ARMv9 architecture, maybe future Apple M2 silicon will switch to broader bit width...

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Srdja

[acepoint_de]

Three new engines: berserk, fairy-stockfish, loki
Two updates: cfish and stockfish

https://acepoint.de/even-more-new-engines-and-updates/

Ciao

acepoint

[AlexChess]

Thank you Acepoint. I absolutely don't know berserk, fairy-Stockfish and Loki, and very curious

[AlexChess]

Strong Fire 8.1 by Norman Schmidt NOT Stockfish derivate to compile for Apple Silicon M1
https://github.com/FireFather/fire

Regards, AlexChess

[acepoint_de]

More updates for the m1, Igel-3.0.0, mayhem-3.9 and the Honey family 13.1: https://acepoint.de/honey-igel-and-mayhem/

Ciao

acepoint

[AlexChess]

More updates for the m1, Igel-3.0.0, mayhem-3.9 and the Honey family 13.1: https://acepoint.de/honey-igel-and-mayhem/

Ciao

acepoint

Thank you my chess friend! M1 Is a perfect chess machine (too) thank to you!

[AlexChess]

More updates for the m1, Igel-3.0.0, mayhem-3.9 and the Honey family 13.1: https://acepoint.de/honey-igel-and-mayhem/

Ciao

acepoint

Hi!
Updated MikeB engines don't work on my Mac mini M1. I've also tried to make them executables with chmod 700.

Igel 3.0.0 and Mayhem 3.90 are OK