Dann Corbit wrote:smirobth wrote:Dann Corbit wrote:A little over ten years ago, another great chess player got a surprise:
[d]r1r1q1k1/6p1/p2b1p1p/1p1PpP2/PPp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - bm axb5; am Qb6;
The computer played axb5. Back in those days, none of the PC programs could find it. I bet that lots of them can find it now.
Hi Dann,
This famous position has been discussed a lot, and I think the consensus these days is that Qb6 is stronger than axb5. axb5 doesn't win against best defense (Kasparov resigned in a drawn position!), while Qb6 very likely might win by force.
I wonder if someone with one of those monster boxes and SMP Rybka cold give it a pounding for a full weekend. I would be keenly interested to see the outcome.
I am giving a bunch of strong programs a one hour each look tonight, but there are machines that can probably duplicate the quality of that analysis in 15 minutes or less.
Hi Dann,
I ran the position on my quad-core Opteron for a couple days. Rybka does switch from Qb6 to axb5 after 17 hours/29 plies, but the score change is not compelling:
r1r1q1k1/6p1/p2b1p1p/1p1PpP2/PPp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1
Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp :
1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6
+/- (1.12) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6
+/- (1.12) Depth: 7 00:00:00 9kN
1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.fxe6 Rab8
+/- (1.29) Depth: 7 00:00:00 11kN
1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.fxe6 Rab8 4.axb5 axb5 5.Be4
+/- (1.23) Depth: 8 00:00:00 17kN
1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.fxe6 Rab8 4.axb5 axb5 5.Kf2 Kf8
+/- (1.19) Depth: 9 00:00:00 26kN
1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.fxe6 Rab8 4.axb5 axb5 5.Be4 Kf8 6.Kh2
+/- (1.15) Depth: 10 00:00:00 50kN
1.Qb6 Rd8 2.Be4 Be7 3.axb5 Rd6 4.Qa5 Bd8
+/- (1.33) Depth: 11 00:00:00 140kN
1.Qb6 Rd8 2.Be4 Be7 3.axb5 Rd6 4.Qa5 Bd8 5.Qa4
+/- (1.33) Depth: 12 00:00:00 161kN
1.Qb6 Rd8 2.Be4 Rac8 3.Qxa6 bxa4 4.Qxa4 Qh5 5.Qd1 Qg5 6.Qd2
+/- (1.38) Depth: 13 00:00:01 250kN
1.Qb6 Rd8 2.Be4 Rac8 3.Qxa6 bxa4 4.Qxa4 Qh5 5.Qa7 Qg5 6.Qf2 Rc7
+- (1.46) Depth: 14 00:00:02 453kN
1.Qb6 Rd8 2.Be4 Rac8 3.Qxa6 bxa4 4.Qxa4 Qh5 5.Qa7 Qg5 6.Qf2 Rc7 7.Ra6 Kf7
+/- (1.28) Depth: 15 00:00:06 1406kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Bc7 5.Ra6 Qd8 6.Bxe4 Bb6+ 7.Rxb6 Rxb6
+/- (1.27) Depth: 16 00:00:10 2250kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Bc7 5.Ra6 Qd8 6.Bxe4 Bb6+ 7.Rxb6 Rxb6
+/- (1.19) Depth: 17 00:00:13 2920kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qxf5 7.Ba4 Red8
+/- (1.12) Depth: 18 00:00:21 4787kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qxf5 7.Ba4 Red8
+/- (1.12) Depth: 19 00:00:33 7759kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qxf5 7.Ba4 Red8
+/- (1.06) Depth: 20 00:00:50 12410kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Bc7 5.Ra6 Qe5 6.b6 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Bg3
+/- (0.98) Depth: 21 00:01:40 24820kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Bc7 5.Ra6 Qe5 6.b6 Bd6 7.b7 Re8
+/- (0.94) Depth: 22 00:03:05 49299kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Bc7 5.Ra6 Qe5 6.b6 Bd6 7.b7 Re8
+/- (0.97) Depth: 23 00:05:12 83726kN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Bf4
+/- (0.84) Depth: 24 00:10:54 183mN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Bf4
+/- (0.77) Depth: 25 00:22:58 385mN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Bf4
+/- (0.78) Depth: 26 00:42:55 716mN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Bf4
+/- (0.84) Depth: 27 01:20:19 1307mN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Bf4
+/- (0.76) Depth: 28 02:30:19 2427mN
1.Qb6 Qe7 2.axb5 Rab8 3.Qxa6 e4 4.Qa7 Qe5 5.Qe3 Re8 6.b6 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Bf4
+/= (0.69) Depth: 29 09:54:50 9623mN
1.axb5 axb5 2.Be4 Qd8 3.Kh2 Rxa2 4.Qxa2 Rb8 5.h4 Bc7 6.Kh3 Bb6 7.Kg4 Qd7
+/= (0.70) Depth: 29 17:15:40 15019mN
1.axb5 axb5 2.Be4 Qd8 3.Kh2 Rxa2 4.Qxa2 Rb8 5.h4 Bc7 6.Kh3 Kf8 7.Qa6 Rb6
+/= (0.69) Depth: 30 21:37:58 18965mN
1.axb5 axb5 2.Be4 Qd8 3.Kh2 Rxa2 4.Qxa2 Rb8 5.h4 Bc7 6.Kh3 Qd7 7.Qa6 Rb6
+/= (0.69) Depth: 31 33:06:48 29390mN