Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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JuLieN wrote:And now SF gives black an edge!
Because move 25 Qh3! was a better move. Anand didnt see it.
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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kingliveson wrote:
JuLieN wrote:And now SF gives black an edge!
Because move 25 Qh3! was a better move. Anand didnt see it.
It may indeed be the better move but do you see how it wins? The SF PV above leads to a drawish rook ending IMO, see my diagram above.

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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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JuLieN wrote:And now SF gives black an edge!
My Stock fish has it equal ...

Anand,V - Topalov,V, World Chess Championship 2010
[d]4r1k1/R4pp1/3b3p/1q6/2p5/2Bp1PP1/1P1N3P/5Q1K b - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 1.7.1-16 JA 64bit:

25...Re2 26.Qh3 Qd5 27.Qc8+ Bf8 28.Qxc4 Re1+ 29.Kg2 Re2+ 30.Kh3 Qh5+ 31.Qh4 Qg6 32.Rd7
+- (1.53 --) Depth: 6 00:00:00 5kN
+- (2.02) Depth: 7 00:00:00 21kN

25...Bb4 26.Ra1 Bxc3 27.bxc3 Re2 28.Rd1 Qe5 29.Nxc4 Qxc3 30.Nd6 Qc2 31.Ne4 f5 32.Rc1 Qb2 33.Rb1 Rxh2+ 34.Kg1 Rg2+ 35.Kh1 Rh2+
+- (1.61) Depth: 7 00:00:00 25kN
= (0.00) Depth: 34 00:10:03 2158mN
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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Sven Schüle wrote:
kingliveson wrote:
JuLieN wrote:And now SF gives black an edge!
Because move 25 Qh3! was a better move. Anand didnt see it.
It may indeed be the better move but do you see how it wins? The SF PV above leads to a drawish rook ending IMO, see my diagram above.

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No, I dont see how it won, but it gave Anand a better offensive position instead of now defending those advancing pawns.
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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Hi,

I wonder why they chose such an unreliable engine. Those changes in evaluation from one move to an other for expected moves show us why one shouldn't use this engine for analysing.

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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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Michael Diosi wrote:Hi,

I wonder why they chose such an unreliable engine. Those changes in evaluation from one move to an other for expected moves show us why one shouldn't use this engine for analysing.

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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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Michael Diosi wrote:Hi,

I wonder why they chose such an unreliable engine. Those changes in evaluation from one move to an other for expected moves show us why one shouldn't use this engine for analysing.

Michael
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Where did the analysis scores change significantly? It could also be the human moves that cause the evaluation to change ...

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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 7

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Anand has controlled the games since game 1 (where he blundered) and up to now. I thought Topalov was going to be the one dictating the outcomes, but it seem Anand is proving to be very prepared.