17....g6 from me also.
And Taylor - I don't use computer aid, but I can't speak for others.
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18. Qh6 isn't Bg7 enough?Christopher Conkie wrote:
Since g6 is a nailed on certainty for our next move it may be wise to consider what comes next.
There are only 6 plausible replies to g6.
(1) 18. Bxg6
We have equalised at least in this forced line.
18. Bxg6 hxg6 19. Qxg6+ Bg7
(2) 18. Qh6
This move leads to a dead draw if we want it. The line starts.....
18. Qh6 Ra5
(3) 18. Qe2 & (4) 18. Qh3
These moves lead to the same thing via......
18. Qe2 Be5
18. Qh3 Qc7
(5) 18. Qc5
This allows us to follow our theme of a5 and a4......
18. Qc5 Ra5! =
(6) 18. Qg4
The most likely move from the R30.
18. Qg4 Qc7 19. Kh1 Rf7 (dark bishops come off in this line)
or
18. Qg4 Qc7 19. Be4 Ra5 (light bishops come off in this line)
In all lines we avoid swapping queens at least for the foreseeable future.
Christopher
I usually don't, but I have checked my lines with ZCT on a few moves when I wasn't sure. I think this is more fun without computers--everyone running Rybka wouldn't be very interesting.Graham Banks wrote:And Taylor - I don't use computer aid, but I can't speak for others.
We do not need computer help if we can use our brains. If the machine plays Bxg6 it will lose, I guarantee that.S.Taylor wrote:Wow! how was this allowed?
I havn't been over this 24 hours a day recently, and it's surprising to find this position!
The forum must have been playing without computer aid!
......g6 then the obvious idea of Bg6, is probably not that risky (of material deficit), even without calculating.
You may not need computer help here but if you play the Hiarcs Forum you will indeed need computer assistance. They're software junkies and have both top hardware and software.tano-urayoan wrote:We do not need computer help if we can use our brains. If the machine plays Bxg6 it will lose, I guarantee that.S.Taylor wrote:Wow! how was this allowed?
I havn't been over this 24 hours a day recently, and it's surprising to find this position!
The forum must have been playing without computer aid!
......g6 then the obvious idea of Bg6, is probably not that risky (of material deficit), even without calculating.
So now you all know. Thanks Terry. That was very helpful.Terry McCracken wrote:You may not need computer help here but if you play the Hiarcs Forum you will indeed need computer assistance. They're software junkies and have both top hardware and software.tano-urayoan wrote:We do not need computer help if we can use our brains. If the machine plays Bxg6 it will lose, I guarantee that.S.Taylor wrote:Wow! how was this allowed?
I havn't been over this 24 hours a day recently, and it's surprising to find this position!
The forum must have been playing without computer aid!
......g6 then the obvious idea of Bg6, is probably not that risky (of material deficit), even without calculating.
Yes, much more fun this way. The result doesn't matter, win or lose, without engines it is much more satisfyingS.Taylor wrote: The forum must have been playing without computer aid!
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They will beat you. If you take them for chumps they'll make you look like chimps!Christopher Conkie wrote:So now you all know. Thanks Terry. That was very helpful.Terry McCracken wrote:You may not need computer help here but if you play the Hiarcs Forum you will indeed need computer assistance. They're software junkies and have both top hardware and software.tano-urayoan wrote:We do not need computer help if we can use our brains. If the machine plays Bxg6 it will lose, I guarantee that.S.Taylor wrote:Wow! how was this allowed?
I havn't been over this 24 hours a day recently, and it's surprising to find this position!
The forum must have been playing without computer aid!
......g6 then the obvious idea of Bg6, is probably not that risky (of material deficit), even without calculating.
They say they have correspondence champions......champs who use engines.Correspondence chumps more like.
It does not matter what they had software/hardware wise anyway. What we have is better. And that's a fact.
Getting back to the point......
I think most people can see that g6 is needed without any tools except their brain.
And it would be no fun whatsoever.Terry McCracken wrote: You may not need computer help here but if you play the Hiarcs Forum you will indeed need computer assistance. They're software junkies and have both top hardware and software.
Hello Mr McCracken:Terry McCracken wrote:You may not need computer help here but if you play the Hiarcs Forum you will indeed need computer assistance. They're software junkies and have both top hardware and software.