I think she's calling it as she sees it.Anil wrote:I too hope that he wins again.Jack Lad wrote:Brilliant move by Anand! - now he should win.
But, at Susan Polgar's blog:
30.Rc1 Rc8 Once Anand plays g4, Black has no way of getting his King past midfield. Anand is consolidating his position toward guaranteeing himself a draw with zero risk. He does not want to give Kramnik a chance to get his King into play with Kh5, h4 then g3.
I feel Susan may be a bit biased against Anand.Her comments always seem to be rooting for Kramnik!
World Chess Championship (Game 7)
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.23"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "62"]
[EventDate "2008.10.23"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O
Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg6 10. e4 O-O 11. Bd3 Bh5 12. e5 Nd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qe3 Re8 15.
Ne1 Bg6 16. Bxg6 hxg6 17. Nd3 Qb6 18. Nxb4 Qxb4 19. b3 Rac8 20. Ba3 Qc3 21.
Rac1 Qxe3 22. fxe3 f6 23. Bd6 g5 24. h3 Kf7 25. Kf2 Kg6 26. Ke2 fxe5 27. dxe5
b6 28. b4 Rc4 29. Rxc4 dxc4 30. Rc1 Rc8 31. g4 a5 *
[d]2r5/3n2p1/1p1Bp1k1/p3P1p1/PPp3P1/4P2P/4K3/2R5 w - a6 0 32
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.23"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "62"]
[EventDate "2008.10.23"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O
Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg6 10. e4 O-O 11. Bd3 Bh5 12. e5 Nd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qe3 Re8 15.
Ne1 Bg6 16. Bxg6 hxg6 17. Nd3 Qb6 18. Nxb4 Qxb4 19. b3 Rac8 20. Ba3 Qc3 21.
Rac1 Qxe3 22. fxe3 f6 23. Bd6 g5 24. h3 Kf7 25. Kf2 Kg6 26. Ke2 fxe5 27. dxe5
b6 28. b4 Rc4 29. Rxc4 dxc4 30. Rc1 Rc8 31. g4 a5 *
[d]2r5/3n2p1/1p1Bp1k1/p3P1p1/PPp3P1/4P2P/4K3/2R5 w - a6 0 32
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
Kramnik played a poor move with 26...fxe5? which gave Anand a very good chance of victory. 

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
No, I don't think she is biased. I think she simply knows that it's a good strategy, when you're leading a match by +3, to simply play to preserve that advantage, while still torturing your opponent to the maximum every game (thus no easy early draw). Each game that slips by without Kramnik winning, his chances to come back vanish ever more rapidly.
On the other hand, I think that if Anand sees a clear way to win, he will take. But +0.86 advantage does not guarantee a clear way to win.
Cheers!
On the other hand, I think that if Anand sees a clear way to win, he will take. But +0.86 advantage does not guarantee a clear way to win.
Cheers!
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
Possibilities:
32. bxa5 bxa5 Rybka3 (0:02.18)+0.31|d19
32. b5 Kf7 33. e4 Ke8 34. Rc3 Kf7 35. Ke3 Kg6 36. Rc1 c3 37. Kd3 Rybka3_8cpu (0:02.45)+1.05|d28
32. Rd1 c3 33. Rc1 axb4 34. Bxb4 Nxe5 35. Bxc3 Rybka3 (0:01.52)+0.10|d18
32. bxa5 bxa5 Rybka3 (0:02.18)+0.31|d19
32. b5 Kf7 33. e4 Ke8 34. Rc3 Kf7 35. Ke3 Kg6 36. Rc1 c3 37. Kd3 Rybka3_8cpu (0:02.45)+1.05|d28
32. Rd1 c3 33. Rc1 axb4 34. Bxb4 Nxe5 35. Bxc3 Rybka3 (0:01.52)+0.10|d18
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.23"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[EventDate "2008.10.23"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O
Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg6 10. e4 O-O 11. Bd3 Bh5 12. e5 Nd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qe3 Re8 15.
Ne1 Bg6 16. Bxg6 hxg6 17. Nd3 Qb6 18. Nxb4 Qxb4 19. b3 Rac8 20. Ba3 Qc3 21.
Rac1 Qxe3 22. fxe3 f6 23. Bd6 g5 24. h3 Kf7 25. Kf2 Kg6 26. Ke2 fxe5 27. dxe5
b6 28. b4 Rc4 29. Rxc4 dxc4 30. Rc1 Rc8 31. g4 a5 32. b5 c3 *
[d]2r5/3n2p1/1p1Bp1k1/pP2P1p1/P5P1/2p1P2P/4K3/2R5 w - - 0 33
Will there be a fortress?
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.23"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[EventDate "2008.10.23"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O
Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg6 10. e4 O-O 11. Bd3 Bh5 12. e5 Nd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qe3 Re8 15.
Ne1 Bg6 16. Bxg6 hxg6 17. Nd3 Qb6 18. Nxb4 Qxb4 19. b3 Rac8 20. Ba3 Qc3 21.
Rac1 Qxe3 22. fxe3 f6 23. Bd6 g5 24. h3 Kf7 25. Kf2 Kg6 26. Ke2 fxe5 27. dxe5
b6 28. b4 Rc4 29. Rxc4 dxc4 30. Rc1 Rc8 31. g4 a5 32. b5 c3 *
[d]2r5/3n2p1/1p1Bp1k1/pP2P1p1/P5P1/2p1P2P/4K3/2R5 w - - 0 33
Will there be a fortress?
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
32. b5! just wins imo. 

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
OK.sorcerers_apprentice wrote:No, I don't think she is biased. I think she simply knows that it's a good strategy, when you're leading a match by +3, to simply play to preserve that advantage, while still torturing your opponent to the maximum every game (thus no easy early draw). Each game that slips by without Kramnik winning, his chances to come back vanish ever more rapidly.
On the other hand, I think that if Anand sees a clear way to win, he will take. But +0.86 advantage does not guarantee a clear way to win.
Cheers!
Oscar
How about +1.34?
33. Kd3 Kh6 34. Rxc3 Rxc3+ 35. Kxc3 Rybka3_8cpu (0:01.13)+1.34|d25
And I think Anand's best chances are always when he plays for a win.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
No, I think it will be a fortress Draw.Jack Lad wrote:32. b5! just wins imo.

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)
33. Kd3! ensures the win - let's see if he plays it. 

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