30.f7+ is also winningmetax wrote:[d]5rk1/7q/n3RP1Q/p7/p3b3/3n2P1/1PR2P1P/6K1 w - -
30.f7+?? where 3.Qg5+ would just have mated...:D
22.01 0:14 +87.83 3.Dg5+ Kh8 4.Txe4 Se1 5.Txe1 Tg8
6.f7 Txg5 7.f8D+ Tg8 8.Df6+ Dg7
9.Dxa6 Tf8 10.Dxa5 Df6 11.Dh5+ Kg8
12.Te4 Tb8 13.Tg4+ Kf8 14.Dc5+ De7
15.Df5+ Df7 16.Tc8+ (15.049.018) 1040
Anand vs Topalov Game 4
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 4
Best Game to me so far ...gerold wrote:Thanks much for the posting of these games Ted.AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship"]
[Site "Bulgaria/Sofia"]
[Date "2010.04.28"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2787"]
[BlackElo "2805"]
[Annotator "Robot 3"]
[PlyCount "63"]
[EventDate "2010.04.28"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "12"]
[EventCountry "BUL"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. g3 dxc4 5. Bg2 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 a5 7. Qc2 Bxd2+ 8.
Qxd2 c6 9. a4 b5 10. Na3 Bd7 11. Ne5 Nd5 12. e4 Nb4 13. O-O O-O 14. Rfd1 Be8
15. d5 Qd6 16. Ng4 Qc5 17. Ne3 N8a6 18. dxc6 bxa4 19. Naxc4 Bxc6 20. Rac1 h6
21. Nd6 Qa7 22. Ng4 Rad8 23. Nxh6+ gxh6 24. Qxh6 f6 25. e5 Bxg2 26. exf6 Rxd6
27. Rxd6 Be4 28. Rxe6 Nd3 29. Rc2 Qh7 30. f7+ Qxf7 31. Rxe4 Qf5 32. Re7 Black Resigens
Nice game for Anand.
Best,
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 4
I can't wait to go over this in detail ...JuLieN wrote:Thanks for the thread, Ted.
That really was an impressive game! I'm surprised anyway by the unusually weaker form of Topalov. Mental won't be a problem for this champion, and he sure boils to fight back. Still, he's obviously not playing his best chess.
In the other hand, Vishy is a joy for our eyes.
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 4
Yes indeed. When Anand played better than the enginesAdminX wrote:Best Game to me so far ...gerold wrote:Thanks much for the posting of these games Ted.AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship"]
[Site "Bulgaria/Sofia"]
[Date "2010.04.28"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2787"]
[BlackElo "2805"]
[Annotator "Robot 3"]
[PlyCount "63"]
[EventDate "2010.04.28"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "12"]
[EventCountry "BUL"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. g3 dxc4 5. Bg2 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 a5 7. Qc2 Bxd2+ 8.
Qxd2 c6 9. a4 b5 10. Na3 Bd7 11. Ne5 Nd5 12. e4 Nb4 13. O-O O-O 14. Rfd1 Be8
15. d5 Qd6 16. Ng4 Qc5 17. Ne3 N8a6 18. dxc6 bxa4 19. Naxc4 Bxc6 20. Rac1 h6
21. Nd6 Qa7 22. Ng4 Rad8 23. Nxh6+ gxh6 24. Qxh6 f6 25. e5 Bxg2 26. exf6 Rxd6
27. Rxd6 Be4 28. Rxe6 Nd3 29. Rc2 Qh7 30. f7+ Qxf7 31. Rxe4 Qf5 32. Re7 Black Resigens
Nice game for Anand.
Best,
Gerold.
that is a +.
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 4
f7+ is pretty strong too. At this point, it is about what is the most clear cut continuation from a human perspective.metax wrote:[d]5rk1/7q/n3RP1Q/p7/p3b3/3n2P1/1PR2P1P/6K1 w - -
30.f7+?? where 3.Qg5+ would just have mated...:D
22.01 0:14 +87.83 3.Dg5+ Kh8 4.Txe4 Se1 5.Txe1 Tg8
6.f7 Txg5 7.f8D+ Tg8 8.Df6+ Dg7
9.Dxa6 Tf8 10.Dxa5 Df6 11.Dh5+ Kg8
12.Te4 Tb8 13.Tg4+ Kf8 14.Dc5+ De7
15.Df5+ Df7 16.Tc8+ (15.049.018) 1040
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 4
Black could have went for the draw in the game. Glad to see
them go for broke.
Best,
Gerold.
them go for broke.
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 4
There are 8 games moreHoudini wrote:Anand is crushing Topalov, this will really hurt the Bulgarian.
The match might already be over...
Topalov is known by bad start, in the moment it is more like Toplov is losing then Anand winning.
Anand plays on Topalov weaknesses, Topalov is playing on his own strength points by now.
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If Topalov is losing Anand is winning.Hood wrote:There are 8 games moreHoudini wrote:Anand is crushing Topalov, this will really hurt the Bulgarian.
The match might already be over....
Topalov is known by bad start, in the moment it is more like Toplov is losing then Anand winning.
Anand plays on Topalov weaknesses, Topalov is playing on his own strength points by now.
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Yes, great game indeed, hats off to Anand!AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship"]
[Site "Bulgaria/Sofia"]
[Date "2010.04.28"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2787"]
[BlackElo "2805"]
[Annotator "Robot 3"]
[PlyCount "63"]
[EventDate "2010.04.28"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "12"]
[EventCountry "BUL"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. g3 dxc4 5. Bg2 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 a5 7. Qc2 Bxd2+ 8.
Qxd2 c6 9. a4 b5 10. Na3 Bd7 11. Ne5 Nd5 12. e4 Nb4 13. O-O O-O 14. Rfd1 Be8
15. d5 Qd6 16. Ng4 Qc5 17. Ne3 N8a6 18. dxc6 bxa4 19. Naxc4 Bxc6 20. Rac1 h6
21. Nd6 Qa7 22. Ng4 Rad8 23. Nxh6+ gxh6 24. Qxh6 f6 25. e5 Bxg2 26. exf6 Rxd6
27. Rxd6 Be4 28. Rxe6 Nd3 29. Rc2 Qh7 30. f7+ Qxf7 31. Rxe4 Qf5 32. Re7 1-0
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Re: Anand vs Topalov Game 4
Game Analysis
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. g3
Another Catalan.
4... dxc4 5. Bg2 Bb4+
A deviation from game 2, where Topalov played 5... a6
6. Bd2 a5 7. Qc2
7. O-O isn't bad either, but it allows a transposition into a line of the Bogo-Indian that has a decent theoretical reputation: 7... Nc6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bxf6 Qxf6 10. e3 e5 11. a3 Bd6 12. d5 Ne7 13. Nfd2 O-O 14. Nc3 Bd7 15. Nxc4 b5 16. Nxd6 cxd6 17. Qd3 Rfb8 18. Rfc1 Nc8 19. b4 Nb6 20. Bf1 Nc4 21. Qd1 Rc8 22. Qe1 axb4 23. axb4 Rxa1 24. Rxa1 Qg6 25. e4 Qg5 26. h4 Qd2 27. Qxd2 Nxd2 28. Bxb5 Bxb5 29. Nxb5 Nxe4 30. Ra6 Rb8 31. Nxd6 Nxd6 32. Rxd6 1/2-1/2 Le Quang Liem-Neelotpal,D/Olongapo City 2010
7... Bxd2+
7... Nc6 is an important and more quiet alternative, e.g. 8. Qxc4 Qd5 9. Qd3 O-O 10. Nc3 Qh5 11. h3 Rd8 12. a3 Bxc3 13. bxc3 Qg6 14. Qxg6 hxg6 15. Bg5 D.Fridman-Bartel, Dresden 2008
8. Qxd2
After 8. Nbxd2 it's harder or White to put pressure on Black's queenside: 8... b5 9. a4 c6 10. b3 cxb3 11. Nxb3 O-O 12. O-O Ba6 13. Nc5 Nbd7 14. Rfd1 but White still had some compensation for the pawn in Avrukh-Eljanov, Mallorca 2004
8... c6
8... b6 9. Ne5 Ra7 10. Na3 Bb7 11. Bxb7 Rxb7 12. Naxc4 O-O 13. O-O Qe7 14. Rfd1 was better for White in Wojtkiewicz -Gulko, San Diego 2006
9. a4 b5 10. Na3
This move is a deviation from... yes, another Kramnik-Topalov game from Elista 2006. According to a member of the Anand team (not a second) who was in the press room today, one game with this move had been played before, but we haven't been able to find it so for the moment we'll call it the novelty. 10. axb5 cxb5 11. Qg5 O-O 12. Qxb5 Ba6 13. Qa4 Qb6 14. O-O (14. Nbd2 Bb5! 15. Qa3 Nc6 16. O-O Rab8 17. Rfc1 Nxd4 18. Nxd4 Qxd4 19. Nf3 Qb6 20. Qxa5 Qxa5 21. Rxa5 Bc6 22. Rxc4 Bxf3 23. Bxf3 Rxb2 24. h4 1/2-1/2 Leko,P-Kramnik,V/Dortmund 2009 ) 14... Qxb2 15. Nbd2 Bb5 16. Nxc4 Bxa4 17. Nxb2 Bb5 18. Ne5 Ra7 19. Bf3 ( a very recent game went 19. Nbd3 Nbd7 20. Rfb1 Nxe5 21. Rxb5 Nxd3 22. exd3 1/2-1/2 Ushenina,A-Kosintseva,T/Rijeka 2010 ) 19... Nbd7 20. Nec4 Rb8 21. Rfb1 g5!? Kramnik-Topalov, Elista 2006. Kramnik won this ending.
10... Bd7
Played after 11 minutes.
11. Ne5
After four minutes.
11... Nd5
After eight minutes.
12. e4
Two and a half minutes.
12... Nb4
Seven minutes.
13. O-O O-O 14. Rfd1
Seven minutes. Also interesting was 14. d5 e.g. 14... Qc7 15. Nxd7 Qxd7 (15... Nxd7 16. dxc6 Nxc6 17. Nxb5 ) 16. Rfd1 Rd8 17. Qg5 which also looks not easy for Black.
14... Be8
This looks passive. 14... Qc7!? 14... Qe7!?
15. d5! Qd6
15... f6 16. dxc6 (16. Nf7 is funny but 16... Qe7 shows it's not really much more than that. ) 16... Qxd2 17. Rxd2 fxe5 18. axb5 Bxc6 19. bxc6 N8xc6 20. Nxc4 and White's better. 15... Qb6 16. dxe6 fxe6 17. Qd6! (Shipov) is good for White too.
16. Ng4!
Anand took 22 minutes on this one. It was probably better than the (also very interesting) piece sacrifice 16. dxc6!? Qxe5 17. axb5 when the safest reaction might be 17... N4xc6! (17... N8xc6 18. bxc6 Bxc6 19. Nxc4 Qc5 20. Qc3 looks better for White ) 18. bxc6 c3! 19. bxc3 (19. Nc4 cxd2 20. Nxe5 Nxc6 21. Nxc6 Bxc6 22. Rxd2 a4 ) 19... Bxc6 20. Qd6 Qxd6 21. Rxd6 a4
16... Qc5
White was threatening 17.dxc6.
17. Ne3
Sixteen minutes. Time left: Anand 1:00, Topalov 1:05.
17... N8a6
At the press conference someone asked why the players spent more time in the opening than in the first three games. "Does this mean you left preparation earlier?" Both players answered that it was just very complicated, and we couldn't agree more. 17... Nd3 looks logical: 18. dxc6 Nxc6 ( or even 18... Bxc6 19. axb5 Bxb5 20. Qc3 Nd7 21. Nxb5 Qxb5 22. Qxc4 Qxc4 23. Nxc4 N7e5 ) 19. axb5 Nce5 20. Nexc4 Nxc4 21. Qxd3 Nxa3 22. Qxa3 Qxb5 23. Rac1 and White keeps a slight edge.
18. dxc6
The complications are starting to look good for White.
18... bxa4
Twelve minutes. 18... Bxc6 19. axb5 Bxb5 20. Naxc4 Bxc4 21. Rac1 is also more comfortable for White. Black's main problem: his funny knights.
19. Naxc4 Bxc6 20. Rac1 h6
Seven minutes, and called "a bad move" after the game by Topalov.
21. Nd6 Qa7 22. Ng4!
Back again. Not the most obvious move, but Anand played it relatively quickly, which might suggest he was still in his preparation. Maybe hard to believe, but they go very deeply these days, and besides, 20...h6 was Rybka's first choice so they could have predicted this position.
22... Rad8
It's not clear whether Black has a defence here. 22... Nc5 looks better but after 23. Rc4! White still has a very strong attack coming up. ( the immediate 23. Nxh6+ gxh6 24. Qxh6 can be answered by 24... Nbd3 )
23. Nxh6+!
Very similar to Topalov's Nxf6 in game 1. Anand played it after just five minutes.
23... gxh6 24. Qxh6 f6
Here Anand took twelve minutes thinking time before coming up with the killing
25. e5!
so he was either double (triple) checking the lines or simply enjoying the position.
25... Bxg2
25... Qg7 26. Qxg7+ Kxg7 27. Bxc6 is a horrible ending that Anand would surely have won.
26. exf6
Among the threats are 27.Qg6+ & 28.f7 and 27.Qg5+ and 28.Rc4.
26... Rxd6
26... Bf3 27. Qg6+ Kh8 28. f7
27. Rxd6 Be4 28. Rxe6 Nd3 29. Rc2 Qh7 30. f7+!
A nice finishing touch.
30... Qxf7 31. Rxe4 Qf5 32. Re7 1-0
Source:
http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/wch-g ... more-24679
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. g3
Another Catalan.
4... dxc4 5. Bg2 Bb4+
A deviation from game 2, where Topalov played 5... a6
6. Bd2 a5 7. Qc2
7. O-O isn't bad either, but it allows a transposition into a line of the Bogo-Indian that has a decent theoretical reputation: 7... Nc6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bxf6 Qxf6 10. e3 e5 11. a3 Bd6 12. d5 Ne7 13. Nfd2 O-O 14. Nc3 Bd7 15. Nxc4 b5 16. Nxd6 cxd6 17. Qd3 Rfb8 18. Rfc1 Nc8 19. b4 Nb6 20. Bf1 Nc4 21. Qd1 Rc8 22. Qe1 axb4 23. axb4 Rxa1 24. Rxa1 Qg6 25. e4 Qg5 26. h4 Qd2 27. Qxd2 Nxd2 28. Bxb5 Bxb5 29. Nxb5 Nxe4 30. Ra6 Rb8 31. Nxd6 Nxd6 32. Rxd6 1/2-1/2 Le Quang Liem-Neelotpal,D/Olongapo City 2010
7... Bxd2+
7... Nc6 is an important and more quiet alternative, e.g. 8. Qxc4 Qd5 9. Qd3 O-O 10. Nc3 Qh5 11. h3 Rd8 12. a3 Bxc3 13. bxc3 Qg6 14. Qxg6 hxg6 15. Bg5 D.Fridman-Bartel, Dresden 2008
8. Qxd2
After 8. Nbxd2 it's harder or White to put pressure on Black's queenside: 8... b5 9. a4 c6 10. b3 cxb3 11. Nxb3 O-O 12. O-O Ba6 13. Nc5 Nbd7 14. Rfd1 but White still had some compensation for the pawn in Avrukh-Eljanov, Mallorca 2004
8... c6
8... b6 9. Ne5 Ra7 10. Na3 Bb7 11. Bxb7 Rxb7 12. Naxc4 O-O 13. O-O Qe7 14. Rfd1 was better for White in Wojtkiewicz -Gulko, San Diego 2006
9. a4 b5 10. Na3
This move is a deviation from... yes, another Kramnik-Topalov game from Elista 2006. According to a member of the Anand team (not a second) who was in the press room today, one game with this move had been played before, but we haven't been able to find it so for the moment we'll call it the novelty. 10. axb5 cxb5 11. Qg5 O-O 12. Qxb5 Ba6 13. Qa4 Qb6 14. O-O (14. Nbd2 Bb5! 15. Qa3 Nc6 16. O-O Rab8 17. Rfc1 Nxd4 18. Nxd4 Qxd4 19. Nf3 Qb6 20. Qxa5 Qxa5 21. Rxa5 Bc6 22. Rxc4 Bxf3 23. Bxf3 Rxb2 24. h4 1/2-1/2 Leko,P-Kramnik,V/Dortmund 2009 ) 14... Qxb2 15. Nbd2 Bb5 16. Nxc4 Bxa4 17. Nxb2 Bb5 18. Ne5 Ra7 19. Bf3 ( a very recent game went 19. Nbd3 Nbd7 20. Rfb1 Nxe5 21. Rxb5 Nxd3 22. exd3 1/2-1/2 Ushenina,A-Kosintseva,T/Rijeka 2010 ) 19... Nbd7 20. Nec4 Rb8 21. Rfb1 g5!? Kramnik-Topalov, Elista 2006. Kramnik won this ending.
10... Bd7
Played after 11 minutes.
11. Ne5
After four minutes.
11... Nd5
After eight minutes.
12. e4
Two and a half minutes.
12... Nb4
Seven minutes.
13. O-O O-O 14. Rfd1
Seven minutes. Also interesting was 14. d5 e.g. 14... Qc7 15. Nxd7 Qxd7 (15... Nxd7 16. dxc6 Nxc6 17. Nxb5 ) 16. Rfd1 Rd8 17. Qg5 which also looks not easy for Black.
14... Be8
This looks passive. 14... Qc7!? 14... Qe7!?
15. d5! Qd6
15... f6 16. dxc6 (16. Nf7 is funny but 16... Qe7 shows it's not really much more than that. ) 16... Qxd2 17. Rxd2 fxe5 18. axb5 Bxc6 19. bxc6 N8xc6 20. Nxc4 and White's better. 15... Qb6 16. dxe6 fxe6 17. Qd6! (Shipov) is good for White too.
16. Ng4!
Anand took 22 minutes on this one. It was probably better than the (also very interesting) piece sacrifice 16. dxc6!? Qxe5 17. axb5 when the safest reaction might be 17... N4xc6! (17... N8xc6 18. bxc6 Bxc6 19. Nxc4 Qc5 20. Qc3 looks better for White ) 18. bxc6 c3! 19. bxc3 (19. Nc4 cxd2 20. Nxe5 Nxc6 21. Nxc6 Bxc6 22. Rxd2 a4 ) 19... Bxc6 20. Qd6 Qxd6 21. Rxd6 a4
16... Qc5
White was threatening 17.dxc6.
17. Ne3
Sixteen minutes. Time left: Anand 1:00, Topalov 1:05.
17... N8a6
At the press conference someone asked why the players spent more time in the opening than in the first three games. "Does this mean you left preparation earlier?" Both players answered that it was just very complicated, and we couldn't agree more. 17... Nd3 looks logical: 18. dxc6 Nxc6 ( or even 18... Bxc6 19. axb5 Bxb5 20. Qc3 Nd7 21. Nxb5 Qxb5 22. Qxc4 Qxc4 23. Nxc4 N7e5 ) 19. axb5 Nce5 20. Nexc4 Nxc4 21. Qxd3 Nxa3 22. Qxa3 Qxb5 23. Rac1 and White keeps a slight edge.
18. dxc6
The complications are starting to look good for White.
18... bxa4
Twelve minutes. 18... Bxc6 19. axb5 Bxb5 20. Naxc4 Bxc4 21. Rac1 is also more comfortable for White. Black's main problem: his funny knights.
19. Naxc4 Bxc6 20. Rac1 h6
Seven minutes, and called "a bad move" after the game by Topalov.
21. Nd6 Qa7 22. Ng4!
Back again. Not the most obvious move, but Anand played it relatively quickly, which might suggest he was still in his preparation. Maybe hard to believe, but they go very deeply these days, and besides, 20...h6 was Rybka's first choice so they could have predicted this position.
22... Rad8
It's not clear whether Black has a defence here. 22... Nc5 looks better but after 23. Rc4! White still has a very strong attack coming up. ( the immediate 23. Nxh6+ gxh6 24. Qxh6 can be answered by 24... Nbd3 )
23. Nxh6+!
Very similar to Topalov's Nxf6 in game 1. Anand played it after just five minutes.
23... gxh6 24. Qxh6 f6
Here Anand took twelve minutes thinking time before coming up with the killing
25. e5!
so he was either double (triple) checking the lines or simply enjoying the position.
25... Bxg2
25... Qg7 26. Qxg7+ Kxg7 27. Bxc6 is a horrible ending that Anand would surely have won.
26. exf6
Among the threats are 27.Qg6+ & 28.f7 and 27.Qg5+ and 28.Rc4.
26... Rxd6
26... Bf3 27. Qg6+ Kh8 28. f7
27. Rxd6 Be4 28. Rxe6 Nd3 29. Rc2 Qh7 30. f7+!
A nice finishing touch.
30... Qxf7 31. Rxe4 Qf5 32. Re7 1-0
Source:
http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/wch-g ... more-24679
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