The Champions 2012 4CPU

[Graham Banks]

THE CHAMPIONS 2012 4CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
1024mb hash
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-2.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
All engines 64-bit 4CPU where available
2 cycles 30 rounds


Round 19

Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU v Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU v Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU v Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU v Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Hiarcs 14 4CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU (1-0)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU v Komodo 5 64-bit (draw)
Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU v Strelka 5.5 64-bit (0-1)
DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (draw)


Standings after Round 19

13.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU
12.5 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU
12.0 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU
12.0 - Strelka 5.5 64-bit
11.5 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU
10.5 - Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - Hiarcs 14 4CPU
9.0 - DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU
9.0 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Komodo 5 64-bit
7.5 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
7.5 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU
6.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU
4.5 - Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU


Round 19 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28036

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.

[Graham Banks]

THE CHAMPIONS 2012 4CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
1024mb hash
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-2.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
All engines 64-bit 4CPU where available
2 cycles 30 rounds


Round 20

Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU v Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU (0-1)
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU v Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU v Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU (0-1)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU v Komodo 5 64-bit (1-0)
Hiarcs 14 4CPU v Strelka 5.5 64-bit (draw)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (0-1)
Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU v DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU (1-0)


Standings after Round 20

14.0 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU
13.0 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU
12.5 - Strelka 5.5 64-bit
12.5 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU
12.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU
11.5 - Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU
10.5 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
10.0 - Hiarcs 14 4CPU
9.5 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU
9.0 - DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Komodo 5 64-bit
8.0 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU
6.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU
4.5 - Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU


Round 20 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28040

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.

[Graham Banks]

THE CHAMPIONS 2012 4CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
1024mb hash
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-2.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
All engines 64-bit 4CPU where available
2 cycles 30 rounds


Round 21

Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU v Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU v Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU (0-1)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU v Komodo 5 64-bit (1-0)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU v Strelka 5.5 64-bit (draw)
Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Hiarcs 14 4CPU v DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (1-0)


Standings after Round 21

14.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU
13.5 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU
13.5 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU
13.0 - Strelka 5.5 64-bit
12.5 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU
12.0 - Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU
11.0 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
10.5 - Hiarcs 14 4CPU
10.0 - Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU
9.0 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Komodo 5 64-bit
7.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU
5.0 - Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU


Round 21 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28042

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.

[IGarcia]

THE CHAMPIONS 2012 4CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
1024mb hash
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-2.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
All engines 64-bit 4CPU where available
2 cycles 30 rounds


Round 21

Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU v Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU v Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU (0-1)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU v Komodo 5 64-bit (1-0)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU v Strelka 5.5 64-bit (draw)
Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Hiarcs 14 4CPU v DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (1-0)


Standings after Round 21

14.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU
13.5 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU
13.5 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU
13.0 - Strelka 5.5 64-bit
12.5 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU
12.0 - Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU
11.0 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
10.5 - Hiarcs 14 4CPU
10.0 - Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU
9.0 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
8.5 - Komodo 5 64-bit
7.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU
5.0 - Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU


Round 21 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28042

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.

Crosstable after R21:



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[S.Taylor]

I just now noticed this whole tournament.

Is there possible a reason why Houdini 3 is taking it easy, and not showing fully convincing results in this tournament?

I had thought that it often DOES, against these opponents.

Is there something wrong in its settings? in its power due to something technical? Or is it weaker in shorter times, like these games are played?

[Graham Banks]

THE CHAMPIONS 2012 4CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
1024mb hash
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-2.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
All engines 64-bit 4CPU where available
2 cycles 30 rounds


Round 22

Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU v Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU (draw)
Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU v Komodo 5 64-bit (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU v Strelka 5.5 64-bit (draw)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (1-0)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU v DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU (1-0)
Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU (1-0)
Hiarcs 14 4CPU v Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU (draw)


Standings after Round 22

15.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 4CPU
14.5 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 4CPU
14.0 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 4CPU
13.5 - Strelka 5.5 64-bit
13.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 4CPU
13.0 - Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU
11.0 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
11.0 - Hiarcs 14 4CPU
10.5 - Equinox 1.60 64-bit 4CPU
10.0 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - DeepSaros 3.1a 64-bit 4CPU
9.5 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU
9.0 - Komodo 5 64-bit
8.5 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 4CPU
8.0 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU
5.5 - Gull II b2 64-bit 4CPU


Round 22 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28046

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.

[Graham Banks]

I just now noticed this whole tournament.

Is there possible a reason why Houdini 3 is taking it easy, and not showing fully convincing results in this tournament?

I had thought that it often DOES, against these opponents.

Is there something wrong in its settings? in its power due to something technical? Or is it weaker in shorter times, like these games are played?

Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU is a legitimate copy and is using the correct default settings.

These things can happen in one off tournaments, as people should be well aware by now.

That's why rating lists with hundreds or thousands of games give a more accurate indication of the relative strengths of engines.

All games of this tournament are available for scrutiny.

[S.Taylor]

I just now noticed this whole tournament.

Is there possible a reason why Houdini 3 is taking it easy, and not showing fully convincing results in this tournament?

I had thought that it often DOES, against these opponents.

Is there something wrong in its settings? in its power due to something technical? Or is it weaker in shorter times, like these games are played?

Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU is a legitimate copy and is using the correct default settings.

These things can happen in one off tournaments, as people should be well aware by now.

That's why rating lists with hundreds or thousands of games give a more accurate indication of the relative strengths of engines.

All games of this tournament are available for scrutiny.

OK, so it's a genuine one. That wasn't something i was doubting.
But, it seems to be in a completely different mood this time. Almost every game, no matter who it is against, is doing a favour to be a draw, sometimes not even that. And if it wins, once in a while, it looks like it was by accident.

[Leto]

I just now noticed this whole tournament.

Is there possible a reason why Houdini 3 is taking it easy, and not showing fully convincing results in this tournament?

I had thought that it often DOES, against these opponents.

Is there something wrong in its settings? in its power due to something technical? Or is it weaker in shorter times, like these games are played?

Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU is a legitimate copy and is using the correct default settings.

These things can happen in one off tournaments, as people should be well aware by now.

That's why rating lists with hundreds or thousands of games give a more accurate indication of the relative strengths of engines.

All games of this tournament are available for scrutiny.

OK, so it's a genuine one. That wasn't something i was doubting.
But, it seems to be in a completely different mood this time. Almost every game, no matter who it is against, is doing a favour to be a draw, sometimes not even that. And if it wins, once in a while, it looks like it was by accident.

While the chance of Houdini 3 performing this poorly at the start of the tournament is very low it is still a statistical probability. In all likelihood Houdini 3 will pull ahead shortly and win this tournament with a comfortable lead thanks to the long format.

[S.Taylor]

I just now noticed this whole tournament.

Is there possible a reason why Houdini 3 is taking it easy, and not showing fully convincing results in this tournament?

I had thought that it often DOES, against these opponents.

Is there something wrong in its settings? in its power due to something technical? Or is it weaker in shorter times, like these games are played?

Houdini 3 64-bit 4CPU is a legitimate copy and is using the correct default settings.

These things can happen in one off tournaments, as people should be well aware by now.

That's why rating lists with hundreds or thousands of games give a more accurate indication of the relative strengths of engines.

All games of this tournament are available for scrutiny.

OK, so it's a genuine one. That wasn't something i was doubting.
But, it seems to be in a completely different mood this time. Almost every game, no matter who it is against, is doing a favour to be a draw, sometimes not even that. And if it wins, once in a while, it looks like it was by accident.

While the chance of Houdini 3 performing this poorly at the start of the tournament is very low it is still a statistical probability. In all likelihood Houdini 3 will pull ahead shortly and win this tournament with a comfortable lead thanks to the long format.

That would be reassuring to those who want to feel secure that they know which is the strongest program, and use it for that reason.

But the way it looks is like it might even have 2 more losses, one win (perhaps) and the rest draws.

(with rybka and critter getting straight wins, or maybe with 2 draws)

But on the other hand, i may see it differently if i actually watched the games.

OK, so it is statistically possible. But it shows there are still enough areas that need to be strengthened in its playing.