Komodo 10 released
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mjlef
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Re: Komodo 10 released
One more use of suppress, and the initial reason I added it, is when using a GUI in one location, and connecting to a machine far away (say Europe to the USA). using a higher value strips out PV display and other information at low depths, saving time transmitting all that across the Atlantic. As Larry said, at faster time controls, it can help. In 5 minute games with a remote server, I would use it (sat to 10-12). Longer games it does not matter much.
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Jesse Gersenson
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Re: Komodo 10 released
Average bytes transfered connecting to an engine over SSH is:
Suppress 0 = 3 MB/game
Suppress 18 = 1 MB/game
Suppress 0 = 3 MB/game
Suppress 18 = 1 MB/game
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Nordlandia
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Re: Komodo 10 released
Is it a good idea to negative contempt in case K9.42 face K10.
Imaginably Komodo 9.42 use -3 or -5, whereas Komodo 10 use +3 or +5.
Time control is 180m + 30s in addition to ponder applied.
Larry & Mark any advice
Imaginably Komodo 9.42 use -3 or -5, whereas Komodo 10 use +3 or +5.
Time control is 180m + 30s in addition to ponder applied.
Larry & Mark any advice
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lkaufman
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- Full name: Larry Kaufman
Re: Komodo 10 released
In principle a very small neg contempt should be best for K9.42 vs K10, but if the elo difference is about our estimated 15 then probably minus 1 is the best number. The effect should be too tiny to measure or detect.Nordlandia wrote:Is it a good idea to negative contempt in case K9.42 face K10.
Imaginably Komodo 9.42 use -3 or -5, whereas Komodo 10 use +3 or +5.
Time control is 180m + 30s in addition to ponder applied.
Larry & Mark any advice
Komodo rules!
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Nordlandia
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Re: Komodo 10 released
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[pgn][Event "Auto 232 Game"]
[Site "EXPERT-PC"]
[Date "2016.05.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Komodo 10 64bit"]
[Black "Komodo-9.42-64bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B90"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[PlyCount "119"]
[EventDate "2016.??.??"]
1. Nc3 c5 2. e4 d6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 a6 6. f3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Be3
Be7 9. Qd2 h5 10. O-O-O Nbd7 11. Kb1 b5 12. Nd5 Bxd5 13. exd5 Nb6 14. Bxb6 Qxb6
15. Na5 Rc8 16. Bd3 b4 17. Nc4 Qc5 18. Ne3 a5 19. Qe2 O-O 20. Bb5 Rc7 (20...
Rc7 21. h4 Ra7 {-0.06/28 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 21. Bc6 (21. Bc6 g6 {0.04/25
Komodo 9.3 64-bit}) 21... g6 22. Qd3 h4 (22... h4 23. g3 {-0.06/26 Stockfish 7
64}) 23. g3 (23. g3 Nh5 {0.02/26 Komodo 10 32-bit}) 23... Nh5 (23... Nh5 24.
Rhg1 f5 {0.00/28 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 24. Rhg1 f5 (24... Bg5 25. Nf5 Ng7 {
0.00/31 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 25. Nc4 (25. gxh4 Kh7 26. Ng2 {0.00/29 Stockfish 5
64 SSE4.2}) 25... Kg7 (25... a4 {-0.15/29 Stockfish 280516 64 POPCNT RCEC}) 26.
Nd2 (26. Qe2 Bg5 27. f4 {0.00/23 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 26... Ra7 (26... h3 27. Nb3
Qb6 {-0.15/15 Deep Rybka 4 x64}) 27. Nb3 (27. Nb3 Qb6 28. Qd2 {0.00/22 Houdini
4 Pro w32}) 27... Qb6 (27... Qb6 28. Qe2 a4 {0.08/17 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 28. Ba4
(28. Qc4 a4 29. Nc1 {0.03/20 Critter 1.5.37 64-bit}) 28... Qf2 29. Rgf1 Qb6 (
29... Qb6 30. Rg1 Qf2 {0.00/32 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 30. Rg1 (30. f4 hxg3 31. hxg3
{0.00/27 Stockfish 7 64}) 30... Qf2 31. Rgf1 Qb6 32. f4 hxg3 33. hxg3 Bf6 (
33... Nf6 34. Rfe1 Ne4 {0.00/23 Houdini 4 Pro x64}) 34. g4 (34. Rg1 exf4 35.
gxf4 {0.00/24 Deep Fritz 13}) 34... Nxf4 (34... Nxf4 35. Qg3 Bg5 {-0.66/23
Fritz 13}) 35. Qg3 (35. Qg3 Rh8 36. gxf5 {0.00/34 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 35...
Bg5 (35... Bg5 36. Rh1 Qb8 {0.00/22 Komodo 9.1 32-bit}) 36. Rh1 (36. Rh1 Qd8
37. Qh2 {0.00/28 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 36... Raf7 (36... Rc7 37. Nd2 fxg4 {
-0.31/17 Fritz 11 SE}) 37. gxf5 (37. gxf5 Rxf5 38. Bd7 {0.25/27 Deep Fritz 13})
37... Rxf5 38. Bd7 Nh5 (38... Nh5 39. Qg2 Qf2 {0.12/20 Deep Rybka 4 SSE42 x64})
39. Qg2 (39. Qg2 Qf2 40. Qg1 {0.00/31 Komodo 9.3 64-bit}) 39... Qf2 (39... Qf2
40. Qg1 Qxg1 {0.00/23 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 40. Qg1 (40. Qg1 Qxg1 41. Rhxg1 {
0.18/26 Deep Fritz 13}) 40... Qxg1 (40... a4 41. Bxf5 Rxf5 {0.00/25 Deep Fritz
14 x64}) 41. Rhxg1 (41. Rhxg1 Be3 42. Bxf5 {0.29/23 Fritz 11 SE}) 41... Kf6 (
41... R5f7 42. Be6 Bd8 {0.00/29 Stockfish 7 64}) 42. Bxf5 (42. Bxf5 gxf5 43.
Nxa5 {-0.10/27 Komodo 9.1 64-bit}) 42... gxf5 (42... gxf5 43. Nxa5 Be3 {
-0.32/30 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 43. Nxa5 (43. Nxa5 Be3 44. Rge1 {0.00/22 Deep
Fritz 14 x64}) 43... Be3 44. Rge1 (44. Rge1 f4 {-0.14/27 Stockfish 090416 64
POPCNT}) 44... f4 (44... f4 45. Rd3 Kf5 {-0.28/23 Stockfish 4 64}) 45. Rxe3 (
45. Rxe3 fxe3 46. Re1 {-0.34/29 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 45... fxe3 46. Re1 (46. Re1
Kg5 47. a4 {-0.25/28 Komodo 9.3 64-bit}) 46... Nf4 (46... Nf4 47. Rxe3 Rh8 {
-0.46/18 Deep Rybka 4 w32}) 47. Rxe3 (47. Rxe3 Rh8 48. a4 {-0.26/24 Fritz 13})
47... Ra8 (47... Rg8 48. a4 bxa3 {-0.35/23 Deep Fritz 14}) 48. Nc4 (48. Nc4 Ra6
49. Rf3 {0.00/24 Houdini 4 x64A}) 48... Ke7 (48... Nxd5 49. Rd3 Ke6 {0.00/24
Deep Fritz 14 x64}) 49. Re1 (49. Re1 Nxd5 50. Rd1 {0.00/37 Stockfish 7 64})
49... Rh8 (49... Nxd5 50. Rd1 Rf8 {-0.03/31 Stockfish 5 x64}) 50. Ne3 (50. Rd1
Nxd5 51. a4 {0.00/27 Houdini 3 Pro x64}) 50... Kd8 (50... Kd7 51. a3 bxa3 {
0.00/26 Deep Fritz 14 x64}) 51. a4 (51. c3 bxc3 52. bxc3 {0.00/35 Komodo 10
64-bit}) 51... bxa3 (51... bxa3 52. bxa3 Kc7 {0.00/41 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2})
52. bxa3 (52. bxa3 Kc7 53. Ka2 {0.00/32 Stockfish 7 64}) 52... Kc7 53. Ka2 (53.
Ka2 Rh3 54. a4 {0.00/38 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 53... Kb6 54. Rb1+ (54. Rb1+
Kc5 55. Rb4 {0.07/37 Stockfish 060516 64 POPCNT}) 54... Kc5 (54... Kc5 55. Rb4
Rh3 {0.00/31 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 55. Rb4 Rh3 (55... Rh3 56. Rc4+ Kb5 {
0.00/27 Critter 1.5.37 64-bit}) 56. Rc4+ (56. Rc4+ Kb5 57. a4+ {0.00/24 Komodo
10 64-bit}) 56... Kb5 (56... Kb5 57. a4+ Ka5 {0.00/39 Stockfish 280516 64
POPCNT RCEC}) 57. Re4 (57. Re4 Ne2 58. a4+ {0.08/22 Deep Fritz 13}) 57... Kb6 (
57... Ne2 58. a4+ Kb6 {-0.14/22 Deep Rybka 4 x64}) 58. Rb4+ (58. Kb2 Rf3 59.
Rb4+ {0.07/28 Komodo 8 64-bit}) 58... Kc5 (58... Kc5 59. Rc4+ Kb5 {0.06/34
Stockfish 6 64}) 59. Rc4+ Kb5 60. Re4 1/2-1/2
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Lichess Auto Analysis - http://en.lichess.org/kKoyMG4G
[pgn][Event "Auto 232 Game"]
[Site "EXPERT-PC"]
[Date "2016.05.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Komodo 10 64bit"]
[Black "Komodo-9.42-64bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B90"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[PlyCount "119"]
[EventDate "2016.??.??"]
1. Nc3 c5 2. e4 d6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 a6 6. f3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Be3
Be7 9. Qd2 h5 10. O-O-O Nbd7 11. Kb1 b5 12. Nd5 Bxd5 13. exd5 Nb6 14. Bxb6 Qxb6
15. Na5 Rc8 16. Bd3 b4 17. Nc4 Qc5 18. Ne3 a5 19. Qe2 O-O 20. Bb5 Rc7 (20...
Rc7 21. h4 Ra7 {-0.06/28 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 21. Bc6 (21. Bc6 g6 {0.04/25
Komodo 9.3 64-bit}) 21... g6 22. Qd3 h4 (22... h4 23. g3 {-0.06/26 Stockfish 7
64}) 23. g3 (23. g3 Nh5 {0.02/26 Komodo 10 32-bit}) 23... Nh5 (23... Nh5 24.
Rhg1 f5 {0.00/28 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 24. Rhg1 f5 (24... Bg5 25. Nf5 Ng7 {
0.00/31 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 25. Nc4 (25. gxh4 Kh7 26. Ng2 {0.00/29 Stockfish 5
64 SSE4.2}) 25... Kg7 (25... a4 {-0.15/29 Stockfish 280516 64 POPCNT RCEC}) 26.
Nd2 (26. Qe2 Bg5 27. f4 {0.00/23 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 26... Ra7 (26... h3 27. Nb3
Qb6 {-0.15/15 Deep Rybka 4 x64}) 27. Nb3 (27. Nb3 Qb6 28. Qd2 {0.00/22 Houdini
4 Pro w32}) 27... Qb6 (27... Qb6 28. Qe2 a4 {0.08/17 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 28. Ba4
(28. Qc4 a4 29. Nc1 {0.03/20 Critter 1.5.37 64-bit}) 28... Qf2 29. Rgf1 Qb6 (
29... Qb6 30. Rg1 Qf2 {0.00/32 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 30. Rg1 (30. f4 hxg3 31. hxg3
{0.00/27 Stockfish 7 64}) 30... Qf2 31. Rgf1 Qb6 32. f4 hxg3 33. hxg3 Bf6 (
33... Nf6 34. Rfe1 Ne4 {0.00/23 Houdini 4 Pro x64}) 34. g4 (34. Rg1 exf4 35.
gxf4 {0.00/24 Deep Fritz 13}) 34... Nxf4 (34... Nxf4 35. Qg3 Bg5 {-0.66/23
Fritz 13}) 35. Qg3 (35. Qg3 Rh8 36. gxf5 {0.00/34 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 35...
Bg5 (35... Bg5 36. Rh1 Qb8 {0.00/22 Komodo 9.1 32-bit}) 36. Rh1 (36. Rh1 Qd8
37. Qh2 {0.00/28 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 36... Raf7 (36... Rc7 37. Nd2 fxg4 {
-0.31/17 Fritz 11 SE}) 37. gxf5 (37. gxf5 Rxf5 38. Bd7 {0.25/27 Deep Fritz 13})
37... Rxf5 38. Bd7 Nh5 (38... Nh5 39. Qg2 Qf2 {0.12/20 Deep Rybka 4 SSE42 x64})
39. Qg2 (39. Qg2 Qf2 40. Qg1 {0.00/31 Komodo 9.3 64-bit}) 39... Qf2 (39... Qf2
40. Qg1 Qxg1 {0.00/23 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 40. Qg1 (40. Qg1 Qxg1 41. Rhxg1 {
0.18/26 Deep Fritz 13}) 40... Qxg1 (40... a4 41. Bxf5 Rxf5 {0.00/25 Deep Fritz
14 x64}) 41. Rhxg1 (41. Rhxg1 Be3 42. Bxf5 {0.29/23 Fritz 11 SE}) 41... Kf6 (
41... R5f7 42. Be6 Bd8 {0.00/29 Stockfish 7 64}) 42. Bxf5 (42. Bxf5 gxf5 43.
Nxa5 {-0.10/27 Komodo 9.1 64-bit}) 42... gxf5 (42... gxf5 43. Nxa5 Be3 {
-0.32/30 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 43. Nxa5 (43. Nxa5 Be3 44. Rge1 {0.00/22 Deep
Fritz 14 x64}) 43... Be3 44. Rge1 (44. Rge1 f4 {-0.14/27 Stockfish 090416 64
POPCNT}) 44... f4 (44... f4 45. Rd3 Kf5 {-0.28/23 Stockfish 4 64}) 45. Rxe3 (
45. Rxe3 fxe3 46. Re1 {-0.34/29 Komodo 10 64-bit}) 45... fxe3 46. Re1 (46. Re1
Kg5 47. a4 {-0.25/28 Komodo 9.3 64-bit}) 46... Nf4 (46... Nf4 47. Rxe3 Rh8 {
-0.46/18 Deep Rybka 4 w32}) 47. Rxe3 (47. Rxe3 Rh8 48. a4 {-0.26/24 Fritz 13})
47... Ra8 (47... Rg8 48. a4 bxa3 {-0.35/23 Deep Fritz 14}) 48. Nc4 (48. Nc4 Ra6
49. Rf3 {0.00/24 Houdini 4 x64A}) 48... Ke7 (48... Nxd5 49. Rd3 Ke6 {0.00/24
Deep Fritz 14 x64}) 49. Re1 (49. Re1 Nxd5 50. Rd1 {0.00/37 Stockfish 7 64})
49... Rh8 (49... Nxd5 50. Rd1 Rf8 {-0.03/31 Stockfish 5 x64}) 50. Ne3 (50. Rd1
Nxd5 51. a4 {0.00/27 Houdini 3 Pro x64}) 50... Kd8 (50... Kd7 51. a3 bxa3 {
0.00/26 Deep Fritz 14 x64}) 51. a4 (51. c3 bxc3 52. bxc3 {0.00/35 Komodo 10
64-bit}) 51... bxa3 (51... bxa3 52. bxa3 Kc7 {0.00/41 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2})
52. bxa3 (52. bxa3 Kc7 53. Ka2 {0.00/32 Stockfish 7 64}) 52... Kc7 53. Ka2 (53.
Ka2 Rh3 54. a4 {0.00/38 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 53... Kb6 54. Rb1+ (54. Rb1+
Kc5 55. Rb4 {0.07/37 Stockfish 060516 64 POPCNT}) 54... Kc5 (54... Kc5 55. Rb4
Rh3 {0.00/31 Stockfish 5 64 SSE4.2}) 55. Rb4 Rh3 (55... Rh3 56. Rc4+ Kb5 {
0.00/27 Critter 1.5.37 64-bit}) 56. Rc4+ (56. Rc4+ Kb5 57. a4+ {0.00/24 Komodo
10 64-bit}) 56... Kb5 (56... Kb5 57. a4+ Ka5 {0.00/39 Stockfish 280516 64
POPCNT RCEC}) 57. Re4 (57. Re4 Ne2 58. a4+ {0.08/22 Deep Fritz 13}) 57... Kb6 (
57... Ne2 58. a4+ Kb6 {-0.14/22 Deep Rybka 4 x64}) 58. Rb4+ (58. Kb2 Rf3 59.
Rb4+ {0.07/28 Komodo 8 64-bit}) 58... Kc5 (58... Kc5 59. Rc4+ Kb5 {0.06/34
Stockfish 6 64}) 59. Rc4+ Kb5 60. Re4 1/2-1/2
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Lichess Auto Analysis - http://en.lichess.org/kKoyMG4G
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K10 | 2-Core | Contempt +1 | 2048 MB Hash | Ponder On | 6-Men Syzygy
K9.42 | 8-Core | Contempt -1 | 4096 MB Hash | Ponder On | 6-Men Syzygy