GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

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Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

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Father wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:23 pm
lkaufman wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:57 pm
Vinvin wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:47 pm Hi !
Yesterday, I challenged Anthony Wirig (whom already play Komodo with knight odd) to win against LeelaKnightOdds. He tried 169 games and he didn't succeed ...
He tried in 3+0 then switched to 1+1 (because h prefer bullet games)
See games here : https://lichess.org/@/LeelaKnightOdds/s ... order=desc
Thanks for persuading him to play the games. Since the node increase on Jan 26, Leela knight odds has only lost two blitz games (excluding crashes/disconnections) out of nearly 1500, one at 5'3" to a strong GM, the other at 3'2" to "Chess-Network" rated around 2700 Lichess blitz, roughly "par" GM level. I would expect Anthony to win an occasional Rapid game if he played it that way, but it is almost unbeatable in blitz, and so far fully unbeatable in bullet. I note that he played all the games (I think) at g1 odds, never b1. Is that because you required it, or because he preferred it, or some other reason? I think it is the more difficult challenge of the two for the human.
Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, Leela Team, and other chess and computer lovers.
I have been watching the Odds and I am very happy to have found that LeelaQueenOdds is being invited to dance again by many dancers. The queen sees herself "super valued in the robot market and in the demand for invitations she receives with an upward trend from humans."
In fact, if we measure the popularity of the "girls 💙" by the number of dance pieces danced, the king robot is queen LeelaQueenOdds.
Of course, "in terms of taste there is no disagreement" some prefer blondes, others prefer mixed race.
Personally, I find the greatest future in winning the reign of robots for LeelaQueenOdds, and this perhaps has an explanation: LeelaKnight demand a high level and anti-machine tools for humans who aspire to a draw or a victory. On the other hand, LeelaQueenOdds is more peofilactive and multifaceted... in my opinion, I would pay a lot of attention to everything that means contributions and improvements to LeelaQueenOdds, the favorite candidate to win the first place in robots.
Of course queen odds is the most popular of the bots, because very few players are strong enough to win games at rook odds or less, especially at the popular fast time controls. Odds chess is intended to give the weaker player at least close to equal chances, which for almost everyone means at least queen odds. But the smaller handicaps are more interesting and relevant for titled players and players of their level. Personally I would like to see more interest in rook odds, it leads to the most normal openings and is probably about fair for the best players in slow blitz.
Komodo rules!
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Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

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jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
That usually means you did something wrong, most likely choosing the wrong color (as if you were giving the handicap). Last week we sometimes hit the limit for players (5 for queen odds, 4 for knight, 2 for rook, 1 for queen for knight), but that was due to the demand after the Benjamin match and related videos, now the limit is rarely reached.
Komodo rules!
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Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

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jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
LeelaQueenOdds, is a very special lady. The form and style of her dancing are unique. The queen certainly had a bit of a headache after dancing with me, dressed in black, but I had the worst of it, she left me even my hair hurting after our last dances and songs. To relax, I love to see her dance with other dancers and especially if they are super experts in dance and at high speed... no one follows her steps in the minute melodies. It relaxes and amuses me to see her dance, it relieves me of my sorrows and pains and leaves me astonished with her insurmountable steps. The queen has stolen the show, everyone loves her, but she usually leaves the most expert in dances frustrated at the minute, although I have seen them back, they want to conquer her, everyone wants her to be their girlfriend. What few know is that she is nicknamed "the black widow."
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

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Father wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:52 am
jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
LeelaQueenOdds, is a very special lady. The form and style of her dancing are unique. The queen certainly had a bit of a headache after dancing with me, dressed in black, but I had the worst of it, she left me even my hair hurting after our last dances and songs. To relax, I love to see her dance with other dancers and especially if they are super experts in dance and at high speed... no one follows her steps in the minute melodies. It relaxes and amuses me to see her dance, it relieves me of my sorrows and pains and leaves me astonished with her insurmountable steps. The queen has stolen the show, everyone loves her, but she usually leaves the most expert in dances frustrated at the minute, although I have seen them back, they want to conquer her, everyone wants her to be their girlfriend. What few know is that she is nicknamed "the black widow."
OPINION
It's just my own appreciation and the emotion derived from playing chess.
In this matter of Odds, there is a very pleasant Odds to face for us humans. It is and I mean LeelaPieceOdds playing you as a human with white chips and with two rooks advantage plus a queen advantage for the human. It allows a high and wide sector of players to win and feel the pleasure of triumph against the super computer. It also requires you to develop and carry out a game plan in a very short time, for example a bullet without increment 1 min 0" that will drain fears and teach us to dominate fear. It is very interesting. At the bottom of the link you can choose that material advantage in your games and the color.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

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Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:02 am
Father wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:52 am
jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
LeelaQueenOdds, is a very special lady. The form and style of her dancing are unique. The queen certainly had a bit of a headache after dancing with me, dressed in black, but I had the worst of it, she left me even my hair hurting after our last dances and songs. To relax, I love to see her dance with other dancers and especially if they are super experts in dance and at high speed... no one follows her steps in the minute melodies. It relaxes and amuses me to see her dance, it relieves me of my sorrows and pains and leaves me astonished with her insurmountable steps. The queen has stolen the show, everyone loves her, but she usually leaves the most expert in dances frustrated at the minute, although I have seen them back, they want to conquer her, everyone wants her to be their girlfriend. What few know is that she is nicknamed "the black widow."
OPINION
It's just my own appreciation and the emotion derived from playing chess.
In this matter of Odds, there is a very pleasant Odds to face for us humans. It is and I mean LeelaPieceOdds playing you as a human with white chips and with two rooks advantage plus a queen advantage for the human. It allows a high and wide sector of players to win and feel the pleasure of triumph against the super computer. It also requires you to develop and carry out a game plan in a very short time, for example a bullet without increment 1 min 0" that will drain fears and teach us to dominate fear. It is very interesting. At the bottom of the link you can choose that material advantage in your games and the color.
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

][/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

Post by Father »

Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:51 am
Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:02 am
Father wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:52 am
jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
LeelaQueenOdds, is a very special lady. The form and style of her dancing are unique. The queen certainly had a bit of a headache after dancing with me, dressed in black, but I had the worst of it, she left me even my hair hurting after our last dances and songs. To relax, I love to see her dance with other dancers and especially if they are super experts in dance and at high speed... no one follows her steps in the minute melodies. It relaxes and amuses me to see her dance, it relieves me of my sorrows and pains and leaves me astonished with her insurmountable steps. The queen has stolen the show, everyone loves her, but she usually leaves the most expert in dances frustrated at the minute, although I have seen them back, they want to conquer her, everyone wants her to be their girlfriend. What few know is that she is nicknamed "the black widow."
OPINION
It's just my own appreciation and the emotion derived from playing chess.
In this matter of Odds, there is a very pleasant Odds to face for us humans. It is and I mean LeelaPieceOdds playing you as a human with white chips and with two rooks advantage plus a queen advantage for the human. It allows a high and wide sector of players to win and feel the pleasure of triumph against the super computer. It also requires you to develop and carry out a game plan in a very short time, for example a bullet without increment 1 min 0" that will drain fears and teach us to dominate fear. It is very interesting. At the bottom of the link you can choose that material advantage in your games and the color.
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

][/pgn]
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

Post by Father »

Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:52 am
Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:51 am
Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:02 am
Father wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:52 am
jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
LeelaQueenOdds, is a very special lady. The form and style of her dancing are unique. The queen certainly had a bit of a headache after dancing with me, dressed in black, but I had the worst of it, she left me even my hair hurting after our last dances and songs. To relax, I love to see her dance with other dancers and especially if they are super experts in dance and at high speed... no one follows her steps in the minute melodies. It relaxes and amuses me to see her dance, it relieves me of my sorrows and pains and leaves me astonished with her insurmountable steps. The queen has stolen the show, everyone loves her, but she usually leaves the most expert in dances frustrated at the minute, although I have seen them back, they want to conquer her, everyone wants her to be their girlfriend. What few know is that she is nicknamed "the black widow."
OPINION
It's just my own appreciation and the emotion derived from playing chess.
In this matter of Odds, there is a very pleasant Odds to face for us humans. It is and I mean LeelaPieceOdds playing you as a human with white chips and with two rooks advantage plus a queen advantage for the human. It allows a high and wide sector of players to win and feel the pleasure of triumph against the super computer. It also requires you to develop and carry out a game plan in a very short time, for example a bullet without increment 1 min 0" that will drain fears and teach us to dominate fear. It is very interesting. At the bottom of the link you can choose that material advantage in your games and the color.
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

][/pgn]
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
Father
Posts: 1806
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:39 am
Location: Colombia
Full name: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

Post by Father »

Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:51 am
Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:02 am
Father wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:52 am
jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.[pgn][/pgn]

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
LeelaQueenOdds, is a very special lady. The form and style of her dancing are unique. The queen certainly had a bit of a headache after dancing with me, dressed in black, but I had the worst of it, she left me even my hair hurting after our last dances and songs. To relax, I love to see her dance with other dancers and especially if they are super experts in dance and at high speed... no one follows her steps in the minute melodies. It relaxes and amuses me to see her dance, it relieves me of my sorrows and pains and leaves me astonished with her insurmountable steps. The queen has stolen the show, everyone loves her, but she usually leaves the most expert in dances frustrated at the minute, although I have seen them back, they want to conquer her, everyone wants her to be their girlfriend. What few know is that she is nicknamed "the black widow."
OPINION
It's just my own appreciation and the emotion derived from playing chess.
In this matter of Odds, there is a very pleasant Odds to face for us humans. It is and I mean LeelaPieceOdds playing you as a human with white chips and with two rooks advantage plus a queen advantage for the human. It allows a high and wide sector of players to win and feel the pleasure of triumph against the super computer. It also requires you to develop and carry out a game plan in a very short time, for example a bullet without increment 1 min 0" that will drain fears and teach us to dominate fear. It is very interesting. At the bottom of the link you can choose that material advantage in your games and the color.
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

][/pgn]
[pgn][Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
Father
Posts: 1806
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:39 am
Location: Colombia
Full name: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

Post by Father »

Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:59 am
Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:51 am
Father wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:02 am
Father wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:52 am
jefk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm well i tried Lila K(andQ)O twice (*) but both times got the message she wasn't in the
mood for playing 'right now' or something like that (maybe only bullet or so or maybe
she got a headache after all these games with father)? Ah well i'll try later again.[pgn][/pgn]

(*) after all that's our reason for existence, isn't it (besides some
neutrino's and/or the fine structure constant (and 42) of course.
LeelaQueenOdds, is a very special lady. The form and style of her dancing are unique. The queen certainly had a bit of a headache after dancing with me, dressed in black, but I had the worst of it, she left me even my hair hurting after our last dances and songs. To relax, I love to see her dance with other dancers and especially if they are super experts in dance and at high speed... no one follows her steps in the minute melodies. It relaxes and amuses me to see her dance, it relieves me of my sorrows and pains and leaves me astonished with her insurmountable steps. The queen has stolen the show, everyone loves her, but she usually leaves the most expert in dances frustrated at the minute, although I have seen them back, they want to conquer her, everyone wants her to be their girlfriend. What few know is that she is nicknamed "the black widow."
OPINION
It's just my own appreciation and the emotion derived from playing chess.
In this matter of Odds, there is a very pleasant Odds to face for us humans. It is and I mean LeelaPieceOdds playing you as a human with white chips and with two rooks advantage plus a queen advantage for the human. It allows a high and wide sector of players to win and feel the pleasure of triumph against the super computer. It also requires you to develop and carry out a game plan in a very short time, for example a bullet without increment 1 min 0" that will drain fears and teach us to dominate fear. It is very interesting. At the bottom of the link you can choose that material advantage in your games and the color.
[pgn[Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

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[pgn][Event "Blitz 3min"]
[White "PabloI Ignacio Restrepo"]
[Black "Partida evaluada"]
[Site "Medellin"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Date "2025.02.05"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1737"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[GameId "2142116855041191"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {1} d5 {0} 3. f4 {0} c5 {1} 4. c3 {2} g6 {1} 5. Nf3 {1} b6 {1} 6. Bd3 {1} Bg7 {1} 7. Qe2 {1} Bf5 {1} 8. Nh4 {2} Bxd3 {0} 9. Qxd3 {2} Qc7 {1} 10. Nf3 {1} a5 {1} 11. O-O {1} a4 {1} 12. a3 {2} O-O {1} 13. Bd2 {3} Rc8 {1} 14. Be1 {1} cxd4 {1} 15. exd4 {1} Nc6 {1} 16. g3 {1} Na5 {0} 17. Nbd2 {1} Qb7 {0} 18. Rf2 {2} b5 {0} 19. Rg2 {2} Nc4 {1} 20. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {0} 21. Qc2 {1} Ne4 {0} 22. Nd2 {1} Ra5 {0} 23. Nxe4 {1} dxe4 {0} 24. Bf2 {1} Rb8 {0} 25. Ra2 {1} Bh6 {0} 26. Be3 {1} Bg7 {0} 27. h4 {1} h5 {0} 28. Kh2 {1} Qd5 {0} 29. Qe2 {2} Rb3 {0} 30. Kh1 {1} e6 {0} 31. Kh2 {1} Bf6 {0} 32. Kh1 {1} Rab5 {0} 33. Kh2 {1} Bd8 {0} 34. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 35. Kh2 {1} Rb7 {0} 36. Kh1 {1} R7b5 {0} 37. Kh2 {0} Be7 {0} 38. Kh1 {1} Kg8 {0} 39. Kh2 {0} Bd6 {0} 40. Kh1 {1} Bb8 {0} 41. Kh2 {0} Kh8 {0} 42. Kh1 {0} f5 {0} 43. Kh2 {0} Qc6 {0} 44. Kh1 {1} Qc8 {0} 45. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 46. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {0} 47. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {0} 48. Kh1 {2} Rb7 {0} 49. Kg1 {1} Kg8 {0} 50. Kh2 {1} Bd6 {0} 51. Kg1 {1} R3b6 {0} 52. Kh2 {2} Rb3 {0} 53. Kg1 {1} R7b5 {0} 54. Qd2 {2} Bc7 {0} 55. Kh1 {2} Bd8 {0} 56. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 57. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 58. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {0} 59. Kh1 {0} Qb5 {0} 60. Kg1 {1} Kh7 {0} 61. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 62. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 63. Kh1 {1} Bf8 {0} 64. Kg1 {1} Be7 {0} 65. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 66. Kg1 {1} Re8 {0} 67. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 68. Kg1 {1} Kg7 {0} 69. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 70. Kg1 {1} Rd8 {0} 71. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {0} 72. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {0} 73. Kh1 {1} Qd5 {0} 74. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 75. Kh1 {1} Bd8 {0} 76. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {0} 77. Kh1 {1} Rb8 {0} 78. Kg1 {1} Rb6 {0} 79. Kh1 {1} Qc6 {0} 80. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {0} 81. Kh1 {1} Qd7 {0} 82. Kg1 {1} Kf8 {0} 83. Kh1 {1} Be7 {0} 84. Kg1 {1} Qd5 {0} 85. Kh1 {1} Qd6 {0} 86. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 87. Kh1 {1} Kf7 {0} 88. Kg1 {1} Qd6 {0} 89. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {0} 90. Kg1 {1} Qa6 {0} 91. Kh1 {1} Bd6 {0} 92. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {0} 93. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {4} 1/2-1/2

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Good afternoon Mr. Larry Kaufman.
For me, it continues to be very enjoyable and an object of teaching and learning, watching LeelaQueenOdds' games against different levels of players. To tell the truth, against all types of human players, I am surprised by the capacity of the computer. I don't understand what has happened to the table of the 100 best humans, it has not been updated for a long time, it seems as if interest in it has been lost. On the computer at my desk in tournament mode I will soon be playing against different engines in full conditions and at the minute. I hope to update my knowledge a little to the current state of the art. Happy afternoon I wish you.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
lkaufman
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Full name: Larry Kaufman

Re: GM Joel Benjamin vs Leela Knight Odds Classical match

Post by lkaufman »

Father wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:29 pm Good afternoon Mr. Larry Kaufman.
For me, it continues to be very enjoyable and an object of teaching and learning, watching LeelaQueenOdds' games against different levels of players. To tell the truth, against all types of human players, I am surprised by the capacity of the computer. I don't understand what has happened to the table of the 100 best humans, it has not been updated for a long time, it seems as if interest in it has been lost. On the computer at my desk in tournament mode I will soon be playing against different engines in full conditions and at the minute. I hope to update my knowledge a little to the current state of the art. Happy afternoon I wish you.
Marcus, who maintinas the list of top 100 at queen odds, has been busy with university exams, but perhaps that is changing and he might have time to resume the project. I can tell you that if the list were updated now, GM Joel Benjamin, handle "SuperEasy", would show a large jump up, far above everyone else, since he continues to play the bot, now at a reduced 8'3" instead of 10'3", and is winning about 95% of the games that way! Clearly he still plays at GM level, as I don't think anyone below GM level (regardless of actual title) would be able to score that well at that time control. One thing it demonstrates is the enormous difference in level of play between Rapid and bullet chess. Of course we all knew that there was a big difference, but how big was hard to say. Top bullet specialists often give 5 minutes to 1 minute odds to players around IM level or so, but that is misleading because they think on the opponent's time. What the bot games show is that a GM level blitz player (Joel is 2520 FIDE blitz after the recent World Blitz Championship) can beat the bot by about 500 elo at fast Rapid, whereas at 1'0" bullet even much stronger blitz players (including Wei Yi, 2711 FIDE blitz, lose by more than 200 elo (Leela always White), so the gap in quality between fast Rapid and 1'0" bullet appears to be about 900 elo points! Meanwhile the knight odds bot with current net now has a total blitz (3'2" minimum) record against the world's top fifty FIDE classical players of 64 wins, 26 draws, and ZERO losses!! We are continuing to work on the bots, there is still ample room for improvement, especially for the queen odds bot even though it is already amazingly strong.
Komodo rules!