Questions regarding the Election and Nomination Process

[Tony Thomas]

I was about to send, it seems you are already around.

Yes,I agree with you about the thing that he bias towards Indian guys, I remember the guy Valay Parekh, he posted in CCC a newbie question just like kaustubh and guess what? Guenther called him a troll. That guy was rated around 2400 IM FIDE,check it out.And he is doing a research on medicine, he left CCC after being treated like that.

There is only a difference of 300 elo between a 2100 troll and a 2400 troll.

ELO does not define worth.

What is your rating?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I will nominate:

Kaustubh
Frohlick
Swaminathan

Guenther

And i will nominate you.

Me too, I nominated Swaminathan, now will you quit already?

Or How about this nominations,Tony.

Dr.Jaochim Wolfram,Ph.d
Rolf
Dana Turnmire
Guenther Simon


Apart from me, Kaustubh from his nominee list seems to be better guy than any of these members.

Guenther seems to think that it would be a cheap attempt to advertise it to voters in order to have me get me less votes,I don't care one bit.

If you want to know why I accept the nomination, check your pm, the main point is I don't care about winning or losing.

Guenther and me don't get along, this is nasty attempt from him, I didn't start this.Every member in this forum has atleast one other member who criticises them and don't get along well.

Regards.

I can tell you one thing, between you and Guenther, I would rather vote for you. Gunether is cool, but he has a tendency to jump in to conclusions and call others as trolls. I also think that he has something against Indian guys, you, me, and Kastubh, that's three. By the way I didnt receive your PM.

I didn't know that you are indian guy Tony
The doctor is almost smashed from the big surprise ,
Dr.Wael Deeb

Doc, it seems that you need glasses. I am Indian by origin, but I am an american citizen. I thought everyone knew that I was Indian, my name doesnt give away my origin (shucks being a eleventy millionth generation Catholic) but it has its benefits as well. Try going to an Airport here with a name such as Muhammed Akthar. .

I have a big respect toward the original people of the old America,but I thought that you came from Delhi,didn't know that you're red

[Tony Thomas]

Yes,I agree with you about the thing that he bias towards Indian guys, I remember the guy Valay Parekh, he posted in CCC a newbie question just like kaustubh and guess what? Guenther called him a troll. That guy was rated around 2400 IM FIDE,check it out.And he is doing a research on medicine, he left CCC after being treated like that.

Never heard of that guy (seems made up as you did often in the past)
And of course you are wrong - it has nothing to do with Indians.
The idea alone is strange. It could be any kids in any nation with too much
time on their hands doing silly posts.
And for the record I have nothing against Tony.

Guenther

Oh I forgot this is still CCC and not a youngster chat room...
People shouldn't forget about this and there is still CTF for chattin'

We just agree to disagree on certain things, nice work you have done on the WB chronology pages by the way.

[swami]

Never heard of that guy (seems made up as you did often in the past)

made up? Check out the archives, I never make things up unless necessary.

Interesting answer. Reminds me a lot of Richard Nixon

Greets,
Guenther

The only thing i made up was when I temporarily left CCC and came back with another name.
Other things I never ever made up!
Bygones are bygones.

The stuff about Valay Parekh is right! I'm 100% sure! either the moderators deleted that post or the current Sean's search engine is not efficient.No surprise that you forget all that, accuse others then forget,interesting!

Okay you have no bias towards indian members, but you certainly have bias towards newbies.

[GS]

Never heard of that guy ;-) (seems made up as you did often in the past)

made up? Check out the archives, I never make things up unless necessary.

Interesting answer. Reminds me a lot of Richard Nixon ;-)

Greets,
Guenther

The only thing i made up was when I temporarily left CCC and came back with another name.
Other things I never ever made up!
Bygones are bygones.

The stuff about Valay Parekh is right! I'm 100% sure! either the moderators deleted that post or the current Sean's search engine is not efficient.No surprise that you forget all that, accuse others then forget,interesting!

Okay you have no bias towards indian members, but you certainly have bias towards newbies.

Well there are Newbies and Byenews.

Regards,
Guenther

[swami]

and Swaminathan must have nominated himself

Hi Steve,

To be honest,I wrote "I would like to nominate Graham and myself(Swaminathan)" to Quentin.

I had initially planned to nominate Graham alone, when I read it that one can nominate oneself,I just included my name, and I had wanted to manage the club in a way,more interesting than my prediction contest

Regards and all the best.

[dj]

GS wrote:

Oh I forgot this is still CCC and not a youngster chat room...
People shouldn't forget about this and there is still CTF for chattin'

Guenther, I think we could and should dispense with youngster chatting on both CCC and CTF. CTF is supposed to be for "thinkers"...

[Tony Thomas]

I will nominate:

Kaustubh
Frohlick
Swaminathan

Guenther

And i will nominate you.

Me too, I nominated Swaminathan, now will you quit already?

Or How about this nominations,Tony.

Dr.Jaochim Wolfram,Ph.d
Rolf
Dana Turnmire
Guenther Simon


Apart from me, Kaustubh from his nominee list seems to be better guy than any of these members.

Guenther seems to think that it would be a cheap attempt to advertise it to voters in order to have me get me less votes,I don't care one bit.

If you want to know why I accept the nomination, check your pm, the main point is I don't care about winning or losing.

Guenther and me don't get along, this is nasty attempt from him, I didn't start this.Every member in this forum has atleast one other member who criticises them and don't get along well.

Regards.

I can tell you one thing, between you and Guenther, I would rather vote for you. Gunether is cool, but he has a tendency to jump in to conclusions and call others as trolls. I also think that he has something against Indian guys, you, me, and Kastubh, that's three. By the way I didnt receive your PM.

I didn't know that you are indian guy Tony
The doctor is almost smashed from the big surprise ,
Dr.Wael Deeb

Doc, it seems that you need glasses. I am Indian by origin, but I am an american citizen. I thought everyone knew that I was Indian, my name doesnt give away my origin (shucks being a eleventy millionth generation Catholic) but it has its benefits as well. Try going to an Airport here with a name such as Muhammed Akthar. .

I have a big respect toward the original people of the old America,but I thought that you came from Delhi,didn't know that you're red

Wrong again kitty, I am not from Delhi, I am from the deep south. Ever heard of God's own Country? I am not a native american.

[swami]

GS wrote:

Oh I forgot this is still CCC and not a youngster chat room...
People shouldn't forget about this and there is still CTF for chattin'

Guenther, I think we could and should dispense with youngster chatting on both CCC and CTF. CTF is supposed to be for "thinkers"...

Most of the stuff in that forum is chat like, some people do write essay type post.

By the way,I didn't find the term "youngsters" annoying just as you did with "grandpa" which is kinder term for calling the old person, than it is calling the 21 years guy "youngster"

Regards.

[Enir]

Someone sent me an email suggesting that I at least respond here, so I will.

(1) I really don't care whether you (SteveB) become a moderator or not. So far as I know, you would probably be a good one. I don't follow your CC posts, and I doubt if you follow my programming-related posts. So what?

(2) I do have a big problem with CCC as it exists, and it is my intention to simply go elsewhere unless at least two things change significantly...

(a) This crap of moderators _editing_ posts is going to stop for my posts, because there are not going to be any more posts from me to edit. It is a lousy policy. It is a stupid policy. It is an insane policy. Delete a post? yes. Change it? Not on my watch. Not now, not ever. And while my absence here won't mean a thing, I can guarantee you I will be absent until this practice is completely stopped, and made impossible for future moderators to do.

(b) The silly business of locking threads on a whim, or temporarily moving threads on a whim, is not going to fly. I _was_ one of the founding fathers of CCC. And we _never_ intended nor even discussed such things happening. The thread that was the final straw for me was the Hiarcs operator fiasco in the last CCT event. That idea is so very basic to all computer chess events, that saying "Oh, he didn't know, or didn't mean to hurt anything" just simply does not cut it. If a guy lives by himself deep in the jungle somewhere, and then makes his way to civilization at age 30 and immediately kills someone to take their food, does he get a "free ride" because he didn't know any better, or is he going to jail? In this case, the 30 years with no human contact didn't happen. Rules for the CCT/ICGA tournaments have been published over and over for years. They have been discussed over and over for years. We had a year-long thread about the DB match and how these rules were applied even there.

And then the moderators have to step in and quash the discussion for a period of time while they "clean up the thread".

I'm simply done with that nonsense. If everyone else is happy with it, so be it. But I'm not, and I'm not going to be involved if that is going to be the way things are done.

Hope that makes my position clear. I don't have a problem with you, and suspect you might be an excellent moderator. Thorsten and I have locked horns many times in the past, yet I feel the same way about him. But the way things are going at present, is not for me. And I'm old enough and experienced enough to have the right to make whatever decisions I choose to make about where I post and where I don't...I'm not willing to just tolerate a place, either I enjoy it or I move on...

Hi Bob,

Yours is the post of the year. I absolutely agree with you. As a founding father myself, I repeat your words: "we _never_ intended nor even discussed such things happening." I don’t understand why the hell moderation became so complicated when it’s so simple: against the charter, out; not against it, stays; repeated violations, poster is out; no editing and similar nonsense needed. That’s basically that. Finally, your "I'm not willing to just tolerate a place, either I enjoy it or I move on..." is exactly how I feel about CCC and CTF.

Enrique