Man vs machine - how to beat chess engine

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overlord
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by overlord »

Houdini 3 is of course completly different story...it has very human understanding of position opening :D
Robert Flesher
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Re: Man vs machine - how to beat chess engine

Post by Robert Flesher »

zamar wrote:Hi!

It's a known fact that chess engines don't understand King's Indian.
To play it well requires long term strategic planning. So it's not a surprising for that even a low rated player can be win a top-computer every now and then.

But to prove your point, I think that instead of posting the chess games here, you should create account in some internet chess server and play against machines there.

When playing with your own PC, it's possible to quickly restart game after your blunder, choose a book for engine that fits your purpose, restart immediately if engine doesn't follow the book line you wanted etc.
And then post the one game of 100 you won/drew. Some even use takebacks. It's also possible to use engine in analysis mode beforehand and try to find positions where engine is likely to blunder...

All of these things make the match very unfair for the computer. But if all games are played on the Internet server, anyone can check that no dirty tricks were used.

Regards,
Joona

I would bet money that this will not occur. I will let others come to their own conclusions as to why. :wink:
hammerklavier
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by hammerklavier »

Ya nadie juega contra los Engines. Solo jugan cientos miles y millones de partidas engines vs engine . Eso hace que no progresemos nada en nuestro juego, nadie juega mejor por "ver" jugar a dos engines.
Lo que si hace que juguemos mejor es lo que esta haciendo Kvicala Miroslav!, jugar contra engines nos agudiza muchisimo mentalmente!, hace que empecemos a entender los puntos debiles de los engines. Decir que Kvicala hace trampa es claramente un acto de envidia , ya que muy pocos aqui podran igualar sus resultados. Hay que "DESMITIFICAR" el ELO , cuando alguien dice que le gana a Houdini 3 de 3300 elo, tendemos a creer que hay algun truco de por medio,ya que lo vemos como una lucha entre DAVID vs GOLIATH . Lo real es que primero que nada esos 3300 puntos no son comparables a el elo HUMANO. Siempre que veo los rankings CCRL SSDF CEGT IPPON me causa muchisima gracia.... y me doy cuenta de lo poco util que es el sistema elo , para medir la fuerza de un jugador.

MIS FELICITACIONES Kvicala Miroslav!!!! SIGUE JUGANDO Y MOSTANDONOS TUS PARTIDAS!! DE ELLAS SE PUEDE APRENDER MUCHO!

Saludos desde ARGENTINA
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by IGarcia »

hammerklavier wrote:Ya nadie juega contra los Engines. Solo jugan cientos miles y millones de partidas engines vs engine . Eso hace que no progresemos nada en nuestro juego, nadie juega mejor por "ver" jugar a dos engines.
Lo que si hace que juguemos mejor es lo que esta haciendo Kvicala Miroslav!, jugar contra engines nos agudiza muchisimo mentalmente!, hace que empecemos a entender los puntos debiles de los engines. Decir que Kvicala hace trampa es claramente un acto de envidia , ya que muy pocos aqui podran igualar sus resultados. Hay que "DESMITIFICAR" el ELO , cuando alguien dice que le gana a Houdini 3 de 3300 elo, tendemos a creer que hay algun truco de por medio,ya que lo vemos como una lucha entre DAVID vs GOLIATH . Lo real es que primero que nada esos 3300 puntos no son comparables a el elo HUMANO. Siempre que veo los rankings CCRL SSDF CEGT IPPON me causa muchisima gracia.... y me doy cuenta de lo poco util que es el sistema elo , para medir la fuerza de un jugador.

MIS FELICITACIONES Kvicala Miroslav!!!! SIGUE JUGANDO Y MOSTANDONOS TUS PARTIDAS!! DE ELLAS SE PUEDE APRENDER MUCHO!

Saludos desde ARGENTINA
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by overlord »

This time draw against Hiarcs 12 :)

[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2012.12.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Hiarcs 12"]
[Black "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2035"]
[PlyCount "209"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{256MB, Mirekbook.ctg} 1. d4 {0} f5 {1} 2. Nc3 {0} Nf6 {1} 3. Bf4 {0} e6 {1} 4.
Nf3 {0} d5 {1} 5. e3 {14} c6 {2} 6. Bd3 {19} Bd6 {1} 7. O-O {14} O-O {1} 8.
Bxd6 {15} Qxd6 {1} 9. Ne5 {11} Nbd7 {1} 10. f4 {4} Ne4 {6} 11. Bxe4 {7} fxe4 {1
} 12. Qe2 {11} Nxe5 {3} 13. fxe5 {12} Rxf1+ {2} 14. Rxf1 {7} Qe7 {3} 15. b3 {9}
Bd7 {2} 16. Na4 {9} Rf8 {4} 17. Rxf8+ {5} Qxf8 {10} 18. c4 {0} Qf7 {15} 19. Nc5
{6} Bc8 {16} 20. cxd5 {6} cxd5 {5} 21. Qb5 {1} h6 {0} 22. b4 {5} Kh7 {12} 23.
Qe2 {0} b6 {4} 24. Na4 {1} Bd7 {3} 25. Nc3 {6} g5 {6} 26. Qa6 {5} Be8 {11} 27.
Qc8 {0} Qd7 {4} 28. Qb8 {1} Kg7 {11} 29. Kf2 {0} Qe7 {7} 30. Qd6 {5} Kf7 {3}
31. a3 {9} Bd7 {4} 32. Ke1 {7} Be8 {4} 33. Kd2 {0} Bd7 {2} 34. a4 {6} Be8 {15}
35. g4 {4} Bd7 {1} 36. Qxe7+ {6} Kxe7 {1} 37. b5 {2} Kd8 {7} 38. Kc2 {6} Kc7 {2
} 39. Kb3 {4} Bc8 {3} 40. Ne2 {0} Bd7 {4} 41. Ng3 {0} Be8 {3} 42. Kb4 {0} Bf7 {
2} 43. a5 {3} Be8 {2} 44. Nh5 {1} Bxh5 {2} 45. gxh5 {1} Kb7 {2} 46. a6+ {3} Kc7
{1} 47. Kc3 {1} Kd7 {1} 48. Kd2 {2} Ke7 {0} 49. Ke2 {3} Kf7 {3} 50. Kf2 {3} Kg7
{1} 51. Kg2 {3} Kh7 {1} 52. Kh3 {2} Kg7 {0} 53. Kg4 {2} Kf7 {2} 54. h4 {2} gxh4
{1} 55. Kxh4 {1} Kg7 {0} 56. Kg4 {2} Kf7 {0} 57. Kh3 {2} Kg7 {0} 58. Kg2 {2}
Kf7 {0} 59. Kf1 {0} Kg7 {1} 60. Kf2 {1} Kf7 {1} 61. Ke2 {1} Kg7 {1} 62. Kd2 {0}
Kf7 {1} 63. Kc3 {1} Ke7 {1} 64. Kb4 {1} Kd7 {1} 65. Kb3 {1} Kc7 {0} 66. Kc3 {0}
Kd7 {1} 67. Kc2 {1} Ke7 {0} 68. Kc1 {0} Kf7 {1} 69. Kd1 {1} Kg7 {0} 70. Kc2 {0}
Kh7 {0} 71. Kb3 {0} Kg7 {1} 72. Kc3 {1} Kf7 {0} 73. Kd2 {0} Ke7 {0} 74. Kc2 {0}
Kd7 {0} 75. Kd1 {0} Kc7 {0} 76. Kd2 {1} Kd7 {0} 77. Ke2 {0} Ke7 {0} 78. Kd1 {1}
Kf7 {0} 79. Ke1 {2} Kg7 {0} 80. Ke2 {2} Kh7 {0} 81. Kd2 {1} Kg7 {1} 82. Kc2 {1}
Kf7 {1} 83. Kd1 {1} Ke7 {0} 84. Ke2 {2} Kd7 {0} 85. Kf1 {1} Kc7 {0} 86. Ke2 {1}
Kd7 {0} 87. Ke1 {2} Ke7 {0} 88. Kd2 {1} Kf7 {0} 89. Kc1 {0} Kg7 {0} 90. Kb2 {0}
Kh7 {0} 91. Kc2 {0} Kg7 {2} 92. Kb3 {2} Kf7 {1} 93. Ka2 {1} Ke7 {0} 94. Kb1 {0}
Kd7 {1} 95. Kc1 {0} Kc7 {1} 96. Kb2 {0} Kd7 {0} 97. Kb3 {0} Ke7 {0} 98. Ka4 {0}
Kf7 {0} 99. Kb3 {0} Kg7 {1} 100. Kb2 {0} Kh7 {0} 101. Ka2 {0} Kg7 {0} 102. Kb3
{0} Kf7 {0} 103. Ka4 {0} Ke7 {0} 104. Ka3 {0} Kd7 {1} 105. Kb3 {0} 1/2-1/2
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by overlord »

Now against Fritz 6...

[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2012.12.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fritz 6"]
[Black "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2035"]
[PlyCount "163"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{256MB, Mirekbook.ctg} 1. d4 {0} f5 {1} 2. g3 {0} Nf6 {1} 3. c4 {0} e6 {1} 4.
Nf3 {0} d5 {1} 5. Bg2 {0} c6 {1} 6. Nbd2 {0} Bd6 {1} 7. O-O {0} O-O {1} 8. Ne5
{0} Nbd7 {1} 9. Ndf3 {9} Ne4 {2} 10. Nxd7 {3} Bxd7 {1} 11. c5 {13} Bc7 {3} 12.
Bf4 {7} h6 {10} 13. Bxc7 {12} Qxc7 {1} 14. Qd3 {20} g5 {7} 15. b4 {5} a6 {3}
16. Ne5 {6} Kg7 {3} 17. Qe3 {10} Nf6 {13} 18. f3 {10} Be8 {5} 19. f4 {4} g4 {1}
20. a4 {5} Nd7 {1} 21. Nd3 {6} Bf7 {5} 22. Rf2 {4} Nf6 {2} 23. Ne5 {10} Nd7 {1}
24. Nxd7 {6} Qxd7 {1} 25. Qe5+ {5} Kg6 {3} 26. Rb1 {4} Ra7 {13} 27. Rff1 {4}
Rfa8 {3} 28. Qe3 {3} Qe7 {4} 29. Rf2 {4} Qf6 {2} 30. a5 {4} Rh8 {3} 31. Rd1 {3}
h5 {4} 32. h4 {3} Re8 {6} 33. Rd2 {4} Re7 {1} 34. Rf1 {5} Ra8 {1} 35. Kh1 {5}
Rae8 {1} 36. Kh2 {5} Qg7 {2} 37. Kg1 {4} Qf6 {1} 38. Rfd1 {2} Qg7 {1} 39. Rb1 {
4} Qf6 {2} 40. Rd3 {1} Qg7 {2} 41. Rdb3 {4} Qf6 {2} 42. R1b2 {1} Qg7 {2} 43.
Ra3 {2} Qf6 {1} 44. Rc3 {1} Qg7 {1} 45. Rd2 {3} Qf6 {1} 46. Rd1 {2} Qg7 {1} 47.
Rb3 {4} Qf6 {1} 48. Re1 {2} Qg7 {1} 49. Rd3 {2} Qf6 {0} 50. Kh2 {2} Qg7 {1} 51.
Red1 {3} Qf6 {0} 52. Rf1 {2} Qg7 {0} 53. Rdd1 {2} Qf6 {1} 54. Rb1 {2} Qg7 {0}
55. Rb2 {2} Qf6 {1} 56. Kh1 {2} Qg7 {0} 57. Kg1 {3} Qf6 {1} 58. Rf2 {2} Qg7 {0}
59. Rd2 {2} Qf6 {0} 60. Rd1 {2} Qg7 {0} 61. Rff1 {2} Qf6 {0} 62. Rc1 {1} Qg7 {0
} 63. Rf2 {2} Qf6 {0} 64. Rc3 {2} Qg7 {0} 65. Rb3 {3} Qf6 {0} 66. Kh2 {4} Qg7 {
1} 67. Rc3 {1} Qf6 {0} 68. Rd3 {1} Qg7 {1} 69. Kg1 {1} Qf6 {0} 70. Rf1 {1} Qg7
{1} 71. Rfd1 {3} Qf6 {0} 72. Kh1 {1} Qg7 {0} 73. Qf2 {1} Qf6 {0} 74. Re3 {1}
Qg7 {2} 75. Rdd3 {1} Qf6 {1} 76. Re5 {0} Qg7 {2} 77. Rd2 {1} Qf6 {1} 78. Kg1 {1
} Qg7 {1} 79. Qe3 {1} Qf6 {0} 80. Rd1 {1} Qg7 {1} 81. Rc1 {1} Qf6 {3} 82. Re1 {
0} 1/2-1/2
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by overlord »

Another one is Junior 10 :)

[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2012.12.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Deep Junior 10.1 UCI"]
[Black "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2035"]
[PlyCount "263"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{256MB, Mirekbook.ctg} 1. d4 {0} f5 {1} 2. g3 {0} Nf6 {1} 3. c4 {0} e6 {1} 4.
Nf3 {0} d5 {1} 5. Bg2 {0} c6 {1} 6. O-O {0} Bd6 {1} 7. Nc3 {0} O-O {1} 8. Rb1 {
0} Nbd7 {2} 9. c5 {0} Bc7 {1} 10. b4 {0} a6 {2} 11. a4 {14} e5 {5} 12. b5 {15}
e4 {1} 13. Ng5 {7} Qe7 {1} 14. Qc2 {6} h6 {1} 15. b6 {9} Bd8 {7} 16. Nh3 {0} g5
{9} 17. f3 {7} Kg7 {10} 18. Nd1 {5} Rf7 {11} 19. f4 {8} g4 {0} 20. Ne3 {5} Qe6
{5} 21. Nf2 {3} h5 {1} 22. h4 {7} Be7 {1} 23. Bd2 {5} Nf8 {4} 24. Bc3 {2} Ng6 {
4} 25. Kh2 {4} Kh6 {1} 26. Rg1 {4} Bd7 {2} 27. Nfd1 {4} Rff8 {3} 28. Nb2 {7}
Nh7 {5} 29. Ra1 {4} Rf7 {2} 30. a5 {5} Qf6 {2} 31. Nbc4 {8} Rff8 {14} 32. Ne5 {
8} Rfd8 {2} 33. Nxd7 {7} Rxd7 {1} 34. Rh1 {4} Rdd8 {2} 35. Qa4 {6} Nhf8 {3} 36.
Bb2 {5} Qe6 {5} 37. Qc2 {6} Nd7 {1} 38. Bc3 {4} Nf6 {1} 39. Qb2 {5} Kh7 {2} 40.
Rhb1 {1} Kh6 {2} 41. Rg1 {2} Kh7 {0} 42. Rgd1 {2} Kh6 {1} 43. Rf1 {3} Kh7 {1}
44. Qd2 {4} Kh6 {1} 45. Rg1 {3} Kh7 {1} 46. Kh1 {2} Kh6 {0} 47. Qc2 {2} Kh7 {1}
48. Qd1 {3} Kh6 {1} 49. Qc1 {2} Kh7 {0} 50. Bb4 {1} Kh6 {1} 51. Qa3 {2} Kh7 {1}
52. Be1 {2} Kh6 {0} 53. Bf2 {2} Kh7 {1} 54. Qc1 {1} Kh6 {0} 55. Qc3 {2} Kh7 {1}
56. Rgb1 {2} Kh6 {0} 57. Rb4 {2} Kh7 {1} 58. Qc1 {2} Kh6 {0} 59. Qg1 {2} Kh7 {1
} 60. Rbb1 {1} Kh6 {0} 61. Rb2 {2} Kh7 {1} 62. Be1 {1} Kh6 {0} 63. Bc3 {3} Kh7
{0} 64. Rbb1 {1} Kh6 {0} 65. Rb4 {2} Kh7 {1} 66. Qb1 {1} Kh6 {0} 67. Qa2 {2}
Kh7 {0} 68. Rg1 {2} Kh6 {0} 69. Qb1 {1} Kh7 {1} 70. Qa1 {1} Kh6 {0} 71. Rbb1 {2
} Kh7 {0} 72. Qb2 {1} Kh6 {0} 73. Qa3 {1} Kh7 {0} 74. Kh2 {1} Kh6 {0} 75. Qb4 {
3} Kh7 {1} 76. Qb2 {1} Kh6 {0} 77. Qa3 {2} Kh7 {0} 78. Ba1 {1} Kh6 {0} 79. Rh1
{1} Kh7 {0} 80. Bc3 {1} Kh6 {0} 81. Nc2 {2} Kh7 {0} 82. e3 {1} Kh6 {1} 83. Rhf1
{1} Kh7 {0} 84. Qc1 {1} Kh6 {1} 85. Ra1 {1} Kh7 {1} 86. Ra2 {0} Kh6 {1} 87. Nb4
{2} Rdc8 {6} 88. Qa3 {1} Kh7 {2} 89. Qb2 {1} Kh6 {1} 90. Raa1 {2} Kh7 {1} 91.
Na2 {0} Kh6 {1} 92. Qa3 {1} Kh7 {1} 93. Rac1 {0} Kh6 {1} 94. Rc2 {1} Kh7 {1}
95. Qb2 {1} Kh6 {0} 96. Rd1 {1} Kh7 {1} 97. Rdc1 {1} Kh6 {0} 98. Ra1 {2} Kh7 {1
} 99. Nc1 {0} Kh6 {1} 100. Nb3 {1} Kh7 {1} 101. Kg1 {1} Kh6 {0} 102. Rf2 {1}
Kh7 {0} 103. Nd2 {0} Kh6 {1} 104. Nb1 {1} Kh7 {0} 105. Ra2 {0} Kh6 {0} 106. Qc1
{1} Nd7 {0} 107. Qf1 {0} Nb8 {2} 108. Qd1 {1} Kh7 {1} 109. Kh1 {0} Kh6 {0} 110.
Na3 {1} Kh7 {1} 111. Bf1 {0} Kh6 {0} 112. Qc1 {1} Kh7 {1} 113. Nc2 {0} Kh6 {0}
114. Na1 {1} Kh7 {0} 115. Qa3 {0} Kh6 {1} 116. Bg2 {0} Kh7 {1} 117. Rab2 {0}
Kh6 {0} 118. Rb1 {0} Kh7 {0} 119. Rfb2 {1} Kh6 {0} 120. Ra2 {1} Kh7 {1} 121.
Be1 {0} Kh6 {0} 122. Kh2 {1} Kh7 {0} 123. Qb2 {0} Kh6 {1} 124. Bc3 {0} Kh7 {0}
125. Nc2 {0} Kh6 {1} 126. Rf1 {0} Kh7 {0} 127. Qc1 {0} Kh6 {0} 128. Nb4 {0} Kh7
{0} 129. Rff2 {0} Kh6 {1} 130. Kg1 {0} Kh7 {1} 131. Kh1 {0} Kh6 {1} 132. Bf1 {0
} 1/2-1/2
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by overlord »

Next draw against Komodo 4 :)

[Event "Blitz 5m"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.12.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo64 no-sse Version 4"]
[Black "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2035"]
[PlyCount "353"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{256MB, Mirekbook.ctg, Vlastník-PC} 1. d4 {B 0} f5 {1} 2. g3 {B 0} Nf6 {1} 3.
c4 {B 0} e6 {1} 4. Bg2 {B 0} d5 {1} 5. Nh3 {B 0} c6 {1} 6. Qc2 {B 0} Bd6 {1} 7.
Bf4 {B 0} O-O {1} 8. O-O {B 0} Qe7 {2} 9. Nd2 {0.64/16 9} Ne4 {4 (Nbd7)} 10.
Bxd6 {0.49/14 8} Qxd6 {1} 11. Rad1 {0.66/16 7} Nxd2 {2} 12. Rxd2 {0.68/17 3}
Nd7 {1} 13. Rc1 {0.68/16 12} Nf6 {3 (Qb4)} 14. Nf4 {0.65/16 3} Ne4 {1 (Qe7)}
15. Rdd1 {0.77/17 4} Bd7 {4 (Qe7)} 16. c5 {0.66/16 5} Qc7 {4 (Qe7)} 17. f3 {0.
77/16 4} Ng5 {2} 18. Nd3 {0.76/15 3} g6 {12 (Be8)} 19. e3 {1.04/16 5} Kg7 {1
(Rad8)} 20. a3 {1.05/16 6} a6 {2 (Nf7)} 21. f4 {1.09/16 6} Nf7 {1} 22. Qf2 {1.
06/16 4} h5 {2 (a5)} 23. Bf3 {1.09/16 5} Rh8 {1 (a5)} 24. h4 {1.09/17 5} Nh6 {
9 (a5)} 25. Rf1 {1.07/18 13} Ng8 {3 (a5)} 26. Qd2 {1.07/17 4} Nf6 {3 (a5)} 27.
Rfd1 {0.99/14 4} Ra7 {4 (a5)} 28. Ne5 {1.17/16 2} Rh7 {8 (a5)} 29. b3 {1.18/14
6} Rh8 {1} 30. Qc3 {1.02/13 7} Rha8 {1 (Be8)} 31. Rc2 {1.17/14 8} Rb8 {2 (Re8)}
32. Rd3 {1.14/12 4} Rba8 {1 (a5)} 33. Rf2 {1.13/14 3} Rf8 {1 (Re8)} 34. Rdd2 {
1.05/13 6} Rh8 {1 (Raa8)} 35. Rfe2 {0.98/14 7} Rha8 {2 (a5)} 36. Re1 {1.07/13 6
} Rb8 {1 (Rh8)} 37. Kg2 {1.05/13 7} Rh8 {2 (Raa8)} 38. Rdd1 {0.98/13 3} Rha8 {
1 (Be8)} 39. Qb2 {1.07/14 7} Rh8 {0 (Re8)} 40. Be2 {1.06/14 3} Rha8 {2 (Raa8)}
41. Ra1 {1.01/15 11} Be8 {1 (a5)} 42. Rac1 {0.98/14 4} Bd7 {1 (a5)} 43. Rc3 {
1.01/13 2} Be8 {1 (Rh8)} 44. Bf3 {0.96/14 3} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 45. Kg1 {1.03/12 3}
Be8 {1 (Rh8)} 46. Rc2 {0.98/14 4} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 47. Rf2 {1.06/13 3} Be8 {1 (a5)
} 48. Qc3 {0.96/12 2} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 49. Rb2 {1.02/12 4} Be8 {1 (a5)} 50. Qc2 {
0.96/12 2} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 51. Rf1 {1.07/11 2} Be8 {1 (a5)} 52. Qg2 {0.96/14 3}
Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 53. Rc2 {1.02/12 4} Be8 {2 (a5)} 54. Rfc1 {0.96/14 2} Bd7 {1
(Nd7)} 55. Rb2 {1.01/12 3} Be8 {1 (a5)} 56. Be2 {0.96/14 2} Bd7 {2 (a5)} 57.
Qf2 {1.00/13 4} Be8 {1 (a5)} 58. Bf3 {0.96/13 2} Bd7 {1 (a5)} 59. Rd2 {1.02/11
2} Be8 {1 (Rh8)} 60. Rcc2 {0.96/13 1} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 61. Qe1 {1.06/12 2} Be8 {
1 (Re8)} 62. Qd1 {0.96/13 1} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 63. Rc3 {1.04/12 2} Be8 {2 (a5)} 64.
Rf2 {0.96/15 2} Bd7 {3 (Nd7)} 65. Qf1 {1.02/12 2} Be8 {1 (Re8)} 66. Rfc2 {0.96/
15 1} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 67. Rd3 {0.97/12 3} Be8 {1 (a5)} 68. Rd1 {0.96/14 1} Bd7 {
1 (a5)} 69. Ra2 {1.01/12 2} Be8 {0 (Rh8)} 70. Raa1 {0.96/14 2} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)}
71. Qd3 {1.03/12 1} Be8 {1 (a5)} 72. Qc3 {0.96/13 1} Bd7 {1 (Bf7)} 73. a4 {1.
07/12 2} Be8 {1 (a5)} 74. a5 {1.12/14 1} Bd7 {1 (Bf7)} 75. Rac1 {1.23/11 1} Be8
{1} 76. b4 {1.15/14 0} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 77. Rc2 {1.31/13 1} Rh8 {3 (Ng4)} 78. Ra2
{1.13/14 4} Rh7 {1 (Ng4)} 79. Ra3 {1.26/11 1} Rh8 {1 (Ng4)} 80. Re1 {1.13/12 1}
Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 81. Qc2 {1.24/12 1} Rh8 {1 (Ng4)} 82. Kg2 {1.13/12 2} Rh7 {0
(Be8)} 83. Rb3 {1.26/10 1} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 84. Rd1 {1.13/12 1} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 85.
Qb2 {1.26/11 1} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 86. Qa1 {1.12/13 1} Rh7 {1 (Be8)} 87. Rd2 {1.22/
11 1} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 88. Qc3 {1.12/12 1} Rh7 {1 (Raa8)} 89. Rb1 {1.23/11 1} Rh8
{1 (Ra8)} 90. Re1 {1.19/12 1} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 91. Kg1 {1.25/11 1} Rh8 {1} 92.
Qd3 {1.12/12 0} Rh7 {1 (Be8)} 93. Rc1 {1.16/11 1} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 94. Kg2 {1.12/
11 1} Rh7 {1 (Be8)} 95. Rf1 {1.18/10 1} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 96. Qa3 {1.12/12 0} Rh7 {
1 (Be8)} 97. Kg1 {1.12/11 1} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 98. Qc3 {1.11/12 1} Rh7 {0 (Be8)}
99. Rdd1 {1.13/11 1} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 100. Qc2 {1.12/12 0} Rh7 {1 (Raa8)} 101. Rb1
{1.21/10 0} Rh8 {0} 102. Rfe1 {1.11/12 0} Rh7 {1 (Be8)} 103. Rbc1 {1.22/10 0}
Rh8 {1 (Be8)} 104. Qb2 {1.12/11 0} Rh7 {0 (Be8)} 105. Rc3 {1.13/11 1} Rh8 {0
(Ra8)} 106. Rd3 {1.11/11 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 107. Re2 {1.27/10 0} Rh8 {1 (Ng4)}
108. Red2 {1.10/11 0} Rh7 {1 (Raa8)} 109. Qa1 {1.21/9 0} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 110. Qc1
{1.11/11 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 111. Qb2 {1.21/10 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 112. Rd1 {1.08/
11 0} Rh7 {1 (Raa8)} 113. Qc2 {1.13/10 1} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 114. Rf1 {1.14/11 0}
Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 115. Ra3 {1.13/9 0} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 116. Raa1 {1.09/10 0} Rh7 {1
(Be8)} 117. Qf2 {1.22/9 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 118. Ra2 {1.07/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Be8)}
119. Rd1 {1.12/10 1} Rh8 {0} 120. Qe2 {1.07/12 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 121. Rdd2 {1.
24/9 0} Rh8 {1} 122. Ra3 {1.03/10 0} Rh7 {1 (Raa8)} 123. Rb3 {1.12/8 0} Rh8 {
1 (Ra8)} 124. Rd1 {0.31/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 125. Qe1 {0.44/9 0} Rh8 {1 (Qd8)}
126. Nxd7 {0.30/10 0} Qxd7 {2} 127. Qe2 {0.29/18 0} Rh7 {3 (Raa8)} 128. Rbd3 {
0.30/10 0} Rh8 {2 (Ne4)} 129. Kg2 {0.30/12 0} Rh7 {1 (Ne4)} 130. Qb2 {0.30/9 0}
Rh8 {0} 131. R3d2 {0.30/13 0} Rh7 {1 (Raa8)} 132. Qc3 {0.32/9 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)}
133. Re2 {0.29/12 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 134. Rde1 {0.29/9 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 135. Rh1
{0.28/12 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 136. Ree1 {0.28/9 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 137. Rhf1 {0.28/
13 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 138. Kg1 {0.30/9 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 139. Qd3 {0.27/11 0} Rh7
{0 (Raa8)} 140. Kg2 {0.28/9 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 141. Rf2 {0.28/12 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)
} 142. Rc2 {0.28/8 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 143. Rd2 {0.27/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 144.
Qb3 {0.28/9 0} Rh8 {0} 145. Rg1 {0.27/15 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 146. Rd3 {0.28/9 0}
Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 147. Rgd1 {0.27/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Ne4)} 148. Rc1 {0.27/9 0} Rh8 {0
(Ra8)} 149. Qb2 {0.27/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 150. Rdd1 {0.31/8 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)}
151. Qc3 {0.26/13 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 152. Qd2 {0.27/8 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 153. Re1
{0.26/11 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 154. Kg1 {0.28/8 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 155. Qc2 {0.26/11
0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 156. Re2 {0.28/8 0} Rh8 {0} 157. Rce1 {0.27/15 0} Rh7 {0
(Raa8)} 158. Rd2 {0.26/9 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 159. Kg2 {0.26/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)}
160. Qc3 {0.27/8 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 161. Rde2 {0.26/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 162. Qb2
{0.27/7 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 163. Rc1 {0.26/10 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 164. Rc3 {0.32/7 0
} Rh8 {0} 165. Rd3 {0.26/14 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 166. Re1 {0.29/6 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)}
167. Qa2 {0.25/9 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 168. Rdd1 {0.34/7 0} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 169. Qc2
{0.25/9 0} Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 170. Qb2 {0.31/7 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 171. Rb1 {0.22/9 0}
Rh7 {0 (Raa8)} 172. Qe2 {0.29/7 0} Rh8 {0 (Ra8)} 173. Red1 {0.19/8 0} Rh7 {1
(Raa8)} 174. Qc2 {0.27/7 0} Rh8 {1 (Ra8)} 175. Kf1 {-0.05/10 0} Rh7 {4 (Raa8)}
176. Kg2 {-0.05/12 0} Rh8 {3} 177. Qc3 {-0.05/14 0} 1/2-1/2
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

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Gustavo, are you a new member? Welcome! Are you a fan of the Hammerklavier sonata by Beethoven?
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Re: Mister Kvicala Miroslav. Felicitaciones !! Congratullati

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

IGarcia wrote:
hammerklavier wrote:Ya nadie juega contra los Engines. Solo jugan cientos miles y millones de partidas engines vs engine . Eso hace que no progresemos nada en nuestro juego, nadie juega mejor por "ver" jugar a dos engines.
Lo que si hace que juguemos mejor es lo que esta haciendo Kvicala Miroslav!, jugar contra engines nos agudiza muchisimo mentalmente!, hace que empecemos a entender los puntos debiles de los engines. Decir que Kvicala hace trampa es claramente un acto de envidia , ya que muy pocos aqui podran igualar sus resultados. Hay que "DESMITIFICAR" el ELO , cuando alguien dice que le gana a Houdini 3 de 3300 elo, tendemos a creer que hay algun truco de por medio,ya que lo vemos como una lucha entre DAVID vs GOLIATH . Lo real es que primero que nada esos 3300 puntos no son comparables a el elo HUMANO. Siempre que veo los rankings CCRL SSDF CEGT IPPON me causa muchisima gracia.... y me doy cuenta de lo poco util que es el sistema elo , para medir la fuerza de un jugador.

MIS FELICITACIONES Kvicala Miroslav!!!! SIGUE JUGANDO Y MOSTANDONOS TUS PARTIDAS!! DE ELLAS SE PUEDE APRENDER MUCHO!

Saludos desde ARGENTINA
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