Super Tournament 8CPU (live broadcasts)

[Modern Times]

Is deep Hiarcs already in the league (playing strength-wise) of some of the clone suspected engines?

No.

And without using any of their code?

Nobody knows that either way, unless it is investigated.

[S.Taylor]

"Any proof"?
Wow, interesting subject.
But i don't want to be the one to upset anything in this thread or forum.

So i suppose this whole concept has to remain surgically kept out, except in "engine origins".

[Carlos777]

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   Rybka 3 64-bit 4CPU                  3165  +13  -13  72.8% -167.7  1795
   Rybka 3 Human 64-bit 4CPU            3164  +36  -35  63.8%  -99.6   213
   Stockfish 2.1.1 64-bit 4CPU          3162  +25  -25  54.7%  -31.4   406
   Stockfish 1.9.1 64-bit 4CPU          3157  +22  -22  62.2%  -87.0   570
 5 IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU            3155  +17  -17  55.6%  -36.7   894

Interesting. I thought Ivanhoe was better than R3. I reviewed the CCRL lists and wonder why you have not tested Ivanhoe at 40/4 yet.
I think many tests were done a long time ago proving IH was much better than R3 at short time controls. I remember some were also done at longer time controls with positive results for Ivanhoe.

Sorry if I went off topic.

[michiguel]

"Any proof"?
Wow, interesting subject.
But i don't want to be the one to upset anything in this thread or forum.

So i suppose this whole concept has to remain surgically kept out, except in "engine origins".

There is nothing to talk about. Besides, this thread is about something else, so let's keep it that way.

Miguel

[Graham Banks]

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   Rybka 3 64-bit 4CPU                  3165  +13  -13  72.8% -167.7  1795
   Rybka 3 Human 64-bit 4CPU            3164  +36  -35  63.8%  -99.6   213
   Stockfish 2.1.1 64-bit 4CPU          3162  +25  -25  54.7%  -31.4   406
   Stockfish 1.9.1 64-bit 4CPU          3157  +22  -22  62.2%  -87.0   570
 5 IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 4CPU            3155  +17  -17  55.6%  -36.7   894

Interesting. I thought Ivanhoe was better than R3. I reviewed the CCRL lists and wonder why you have not tested Ivanhoe at 40/4 yet.
I think many tests were done a long time ago proving IH was much better than R3 at short time controls. I remember some were also done at longer time controls with positive results for Ivanhoe.

Sorry if I went off topic.

I don't think that any of our 40/4 testers are interested in testing Ivanhoe, Vitruvius or DeepSaros (or a few others), but I could be wrong. It's their choice.

Taking the error margins into account, Ivanhoe and Rybka 3 are fairly equal at this time control, which wouldn't come as too much of a surprise to many. However, best not to go there in this thread as Miguel alluded to.

[Modern Times]

Interesting. I thought Ivanhoe was better than R3. I reviewed the CCRL lists and wonder why you have not tested Ivanhoe at 40/4 yet.

It was tested at 40/4 but only on 6CPU. But we removed all 6CPU engines because we no longer have any testers doing that, and could not maintain 6CPU testing. Unfortunately Ivanhoe was a casualty (along with another couple of other engines). It will probably be re-added on 4CPU.

[Graham Banks]

Taking the error margins into account, Ivanhoe and Rybka 3 are fairly equal at this time control, which wouldn't come as too much of a surprise to many. However, best not to go there in this thread as Miguel alluded to.

My comment only applies to the 4CPU ratings.
On 1CPU, Ivanhoe is stronger than Rybka 3.
Of course there are many different compiles and versions of Ivanhoe around, but we chose this one to stick to initially.

[Graham Banks]

Round 7

Houdini 2.0c 64-bit 8CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Rybka 4.1S 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Sting SF PV 120629 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Hiarcs 14 8CPU (draw)
Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU v Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU v DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU v Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Jonny 4.00 8CPU v Chiron 1.1a 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU (1-0)
Bright 0.5c 8CPU v Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Arasan 15.0 64-bit 8CPU v Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU (draw)


Standings after Round 7

6.0 - Houdini 2.0c 64-bit 8CPU
5.0 - Deep Rybka 4.1S 64-bit 8CPU
4.5 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU
4.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
4.5 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 8CPU
4.5 - Deep Hiarcs 14 8CPU
4.5 - DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit 8CPU
4.5 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
4.0 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 8CPU
4.0 - Chiron 1.1a 64-bit 8CPU
4.0 - Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU
4.0 - Sting SF PV 120629 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Jonny 4.00 8CPU
3.0 - BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Deep Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Bright 0.5c 8CPU
2.0 - Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU
1.5 - Arasan 15.0 64-bit 8CPU


Round 7 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=27638

[Graham Banks]

Round 8 Pairings

Houdini 2.0c v Vitruvius 1.11C
Bouquet 1.5 v Deep Rybka 4.1s
Deep Hiarcs 14 v Critter 1.6a
DeepSaros 3.0 v Sting SF PV 120629
Stockfish 2.3.1 v Ivanhoe 9.46h
Deep Junior 13.3 v Spark 1.0
Chiron 1.1a v Crafty 23.5
Protector 1.4.0 v Deep Shredder 12
Jonny 4.00 v Deep Sjeng WC2008
Naum 4.2 v BugChess2 1.9
Arminius 2012-08-14 v Zappa Mexico II
Deep Onno 1.2.70 v Arasan 15.0
MinkoChess 1.3 v Bright 0.5c
Gaviota 0.85.1 v Tornado 4.88


The tournament can be followed live move by move in Playchess or in TLCV (GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port 16083).

[jdart]

Clearly this is a difficult field for Arasan to compete in, but I'm just glad it is running on 8 cores w/o any problems so far.

--Jon