H4 or S5 !?

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Vinvin
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

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IWB wrote:
Vinvin wrote: I think 4pc Syzygy will change nothing in the SF strength. So for me, it's a second test with SF at the exact same level, which it is interesting too ;-)

BTW, it should be interesting to find one (yes, only one ! ) game where the 4pc Syzygy change the final outcome.
I am not sure either, but I doubt a significant win with 5pc as well.

Again, I hve no doubt that for a serious analysis of games/engamepostions the use a Tablebases is VERY usefull.

Time will tell, right now, after 50%+ it looks like a small 1 digit elo gain (3-5)

BYe
Ingo
The second run is finished, the 3 biggest differences up and down by opponent :

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Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Equinox 2.02 (2975)   +4,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Hannibal 1.4b (2870)  +4,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Komodo 7a (3088)      +3,6%

Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Texel 1.04 (2838)     -1,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Jonny 6.00 (2798)     -1,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Gull 3 (3057)         -1,6%
Complete comparison 1st run and 2nd run :

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Houdini 4          57,95%    57,05%
Komodo 7a          55,23%    58,86%
Gull 3             60,91%    59,32%
Critter 1,4a       68,41%    69,09%
Equinox 2,02       67,73%    71,82%
Deep Rybka 4,1     72,50%    73,41%
Chiron 2           77,50%    79,09%
Protector 1,6,0    82,27%    82,95%
Hannibal 1,4b      76,36%    80,45%
Naum 4,2           83,18%    84,09%
Texel 1,04         85,00%    83,86%
Senpai 1,0         85,00%    84,32%
HIARCS 14 WCSC 32b 85,45%    86,82%
Jonny 6,00         86,59%    85,45%
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Re: H4 or SF5!?

Post by Ajedrecista »

Hello Miguel:
michiguel wrote:So, the reason for the discrepancy in the ranking order is exactly that: BE counts the draws twice, Ordo once.

Miguel
The following thread is probably related to that:

1 draw=1 win + 1 loss (always!)

It is a little long but worthwhile.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

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Vinvin wrote: The second run is finished, the 3 biggest differences up and down by opponent :

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Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Equinox 2.02 (2975)   +4,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Hannibal 1.4b (2870)  +4,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Komodo 7a (3088)      +3,6%

Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Texel 1.04 (2838)     -1,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Jonny 6.00 (2798)     -1,1%
Stockfish 5 SYZ4 - Gull 3 (3057)         -1,6%
Complete comparison 1st run and 2nd run :

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Houdini 4          57,95%    57,05%
Komodo 7a          55,23%    58,86%
Gull 3             60,91%    59,32%
Critter 1,4a       68,41%    69,09%
Equinox 2,02       67,73%    71,82%
Deep Rybka 4,1     72,50%    73,41%
Chiron 2           77,50%    79,09%
Protector 1,6,0    82,27%    82,95%
Hannibal 1,4b      76,36%    80,45%
Naum 4,2           83,18%    84,09%
Texel 1,04         85,00%    83,86%
Senpai 1,0         85,00%    84,32%
HIARCS 14 WCSC 32b 85,45%    86,82%
Jonny 6,00         86,59%    85,45%
I think an individual comparision is missleading. You compare two sets of games with just 220 games each. The possible error is huge and even an identical run might be that much different.

Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.

Anyhow, I will play the missing games vs DF14 and will check if I replace SF5 standard with this one ...

BYe
Ingo
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

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IWB wrote:Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.
...
BYe
Ingo
Here's the main question : is the 0.89% difference due to the settings or due to statistical error ? For me, it's due 100% to statistical error. The other mean is the 4 pcs EGTB add not even a fraction of rating point to SF ...
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

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Vinvin wrote:
IWB wrote:Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.
...
BYe
Ingo
Here's the main question : is the 0.89% difference due to the settings or due to statistical error ? For me, it's due 100% to statistical error.
Do you know a method to answer this? I don't! Personaly I think it might be just statistical noise but even if it is due to the bases it is so small it can be neglected.

But for me the main point is the oportunity to come out of the "statisticcal dilema". I do not have (the VERY VERY RARE) missmatch between Bayes/Elostat/and Ordo anymore

:-)
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

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Vinvin wrote:
IWB wrote:Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.
...
BYe
Ingo
Here's the main question : is the 0.89% difference due to the settings or due to statistical error ? For me, it's due 100% to statistical error. The other mean is the 4 pcs EGTB add not even a fraction of rating point to SF ...
4 pc EGTB should at least lead to playing queen vs. rook optimally. I don't know how often that occurs. My best guess is that it's worth about 2 elo. There may be some rare cases of other endgames, maybe rook vs knight or rook vs bishop, where it could make a difference. It helps to know which cases of those endings are won and which are drawn.
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

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lkaufman wrote:
Vinvin wrote:
IWB wrote:Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.
...
BYe
Ingo
Here's the main question : is the 0.89% difference due to the settings or due to statistical error ? For me, it's due 100% to statistical error. The other mean is the 4 pcs EGTB add not even a fraction of rating point to SF ...
4 pc EGTB should at least lead to playing queen vs. rook optimally. I don't know how often that occurs. My best guess is that it's worth about 2 elo. There may be some rare cases of other endgames, maybe rook vs knight or rook vs bishop, where it could make a difference. It helps to know which cases of those endings are won and which are drawn.
Do you "know" or do you "suppose" that SF without EGBT makes inferior results in the QvsR endgames ?
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

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I just checked, 3 games SF without EGTB win the longest checkmate 3 times in a row against SF with EGTB.
In a very fast time control : 10sec+0.1sec !!

[pgn]
[Event "Tournoi Arena"]
[Site "LEJEUN08"]
[Date "2014.06.05"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish_14053109_32bit"]
[Black "Stockfish_syzygy_14060200_32bit"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[Time "18:01:14"]
[WhiteElo "3100"]
[TimeControl "10+0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/8/8/3k4/Q7/8/K6r/8 w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "79"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. Kb3 {(1.Rb3 Th3+ 2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rc3) +5.46/21 0} Rh3+ {(1. ... Th3+ 2.Rc2
Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+ 5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Th2+ 7.Rg3 Tb2 8.Rf3 Rc5 9.Re3
Th2 10.Dd7 Th1 11.Dc7+ Rd5 12.Db7+) -123.56/13 0} 2. Kc2 {(2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rd3
Th3+ 4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Th2+ 7.Rg3 Tb2 8.Rf4) +5.54/22 0} Rh2+
{(2. ... Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+ 5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+
Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Td5 12.Df4+ Rc5+ 13.Rc3 Td7 14.Df6 Tc7)
-123.56/16 0} 3. Kd3 {(3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Th2+ 7.Rg3
Tb2 8.Rf4) +5.54/23 0} Rh3+ {(3. ... Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+ 5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3
7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+
Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4 Th3) -123.56/17 0} 4. Kd2 {(4.Rd2 Th2+
5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Th2+ 7.Rg3 Tb2 8.Rf4) +5.54/23 0} Rh2+ {(4. ... Th2+ 5.Re3
Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4
12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4) -123.56/17 0} 5. Ke3
{(5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Th2+ 7.Rg3 Tb2 8.Rf4) +5.54/23 0} Rh3+ {(5. ... Th3+
6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+
Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4 Te1 17.Df7+ Rg4 18.Df6 Te2
19.Dg7+ Rf5 20.Df7+ Rg4) -123.56/18 0} 6. Kf2 {(6.Rf2 Tc3 7.Dd7+ Rc5 8.Dc7+
Rb4 9.Dd6+ Rc4 10.Re2 Rb5 11.Rd2 Tc6 12.De5+ Tc5 13.De8+ Rb4 14.De4+ Tc4
15.Dd5 Tc5 16.Dd3 Tc6 17.Dd4+ Tc4 18.De5 Tc5 19.De4+) +5.54/18 0} Rd3 {(6.
... Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4
13.Dc4+ Te4) -123.56/17 0} 7. Ke2 {(7.Re2 Td4 8.Dd7+ Rc5) +5.54/21 0} Rd4
{(7. ... Td4 8.Dd7+ Rc5 9.Da7+ Rc4 10.Re3 Td6 11.Df7+ Rc5 12.De7 Rd5
13.De4+ Rc5 14.De5+ Td5 15.Dc3+ Rb5 16.Df6 Rc5 17.Re4 Td7 18.De5+ Rb6
19.Df5 Td6 20.Df4 Td7 21.Df8) -123.56/18 0} 8. Qa8+ {(8.Da8+ Rc4 9.Dc6+ Rb4
10.Re3 Td1 11.Df3 Tc1 12.Df4+ Tc4 13.Dd6+ Rb3 14.Rd2 Tc2+ 15.Rd1 Tc3 16.Re2
Tc4 17.Rd3 Tc3+ 18.Rd4 Tc4+ 19.Rd5 Tb4 20.Rc5 Tc4+ 21.Rb5) +5.58/18 0} Kc5
{(8. ... Rc5 9.Da7+ Rc4 10.Re3 Td6 11.Df7+ Rc5 12.De7 Rd5 13.De4+ Rc5
14.De5+ Td5 15.Dc3+ Rb5 16.Df6 Rc5 17.Re4 Td6 18.De5+ Rc6 19.Df5 Td7 20.De5
Td6) -123.56/18 0} 9. Ke3 {(9.Re3 Td6 10.Da3+ Rd5 11.Da2+ Re5 12.Da8 Re6
13.Re4 Rf7 14.Re5 Te6+ 15.Rd5 Th6 16.Dd8 Th5+ 17.Rd6 Th6+ 18.Re5 Th5+
19.Re4 Th6 20.Dc7+ Rg6 21.Dd6+ Rg7 22.De5+ Tf6 23.De7+ Rg6 24.De5 Tf1
25.Db5) +5.58/18 0} Rd6 {(9. ... Td6 10.Re4 Te6+ 11.Rf5 Te2 12.Da6 Tf2+
13.Re5 Th2 14.Dc8+ Rb4 15.Df8+ Rb5 16.Rd4 Td2+ 17.Re4 Rc6 18.Dc8+ Rb5
19.Dc7 Tf2 20.Rd4 Td2+) -123.56/15 0} 10. Qa3+ {(10.Da3+ Rd5 11.Da2+ Rc5
12.Re4 Td7 13.Da3+ Rb5 14.Dh3 Td6 15.Db3+) +5.58/18 0} Kd5 {(10. ... Rd5
11.Da5+ Rc4 12.Da2+ Rb4 13.Re4 Td7 14.Db2+ Rc4 15.Dc2+ Rb4 16.Dc6 Th7
17.Db6+ Rc4 18.Dd4+) -123.56/17 0} 11. Qa2+ {(11.Da2+ Rc5 12.Re4 Rb4 13.Da8
Td1 14.Df8+ Ra4 15.Dh8 Tc1 16.Db2) +5.58/19 0} Ke5 {(11. ... Re5 12.Db2+
Rf5 13.Db5+ Rf6 14.Re4 Te6+ 15.Rf4 Re7 16.Rf5 Tf6+ 17.Rg5 Te6 18.Dd5 Td6
19.Da5 Tc6 20.Rf5 Rd6 21.De5+) -123.56/18 0} 12. Qc4 {(12.Dc4 Te6 13.Dc5+
Rf6+ 14.Rf4 Rf7 15.Dc8 Tf6+ 16.Re5 Tf2 17.De6+ Rg7 18.Da6 Tf7 19.Dc4 Te7+
20.Rf5 Tf7+ 21.Re6 Tf6+ 22.Re5 Th6 23.Df4 Th8 24.Dg5+ Rf8 25.Df6+ Rg8
26.Df5) +5.62/17 0} Rd5 {(12. ... Td5 13.Dc7+ Re6 14.Dc6+ Td6 15.Dc4+ Rf6
16.Dc3+ Re7 17.Re4 Re6 18.Dg7 Tc6 19.Dg6+ Rd7 20.Df7+ Rd6 21.Dd5+ Rc7
22.Re5 Ta6 23.Dc5+ Tc6 24.Da3 Tg6 25.De3) -123.56/17 0} 13. Qc6 {(13.Dc6
Td8 14.Db5+ Rf6 15.Re4 Tf8 16.De5+ Rg6 17.De6+ Tf6 18.De8+ Rg7 19.Re5 Tf2
20.Dd7+ Rg6 21.Dg4+ Rf7 22.Dh5+ Rg7 23.Re6 Tf6+ 24.Re7 Tg6) +5.62/17 0} Rd6
{(13. ... Td6 14.De4+ Rf6 15.Dc4 Te6+ 16.Rf4 Td6 17.De4 Te6 18.Dd4+ Re7
19.Db4+ Rd7 20.Rf5 Tc6 21.Da4 Rd6 22.Dd4+) -123.56/18 0} 14. Qc5+ {(14.Dc5+
Re6 15.Rf4 Rd7 16.Re5 Te6+ 17.Rd5 Tg6 18.Da7+ Re8 19.Re5 Th6 20.De3 Ta6
21.De4 Ta7 22.Rd6+ Rf8 23.Db4 Th7 24.Db3) +5.65/17 0} Ke6 {(14. ... Re6
15.Dc4+ Re5 16.De4+ Rf6 17.Dc4 Te6+ 18.Rf4 Td6 19.De4 Te6 20.Dd4+)
-123.56/19 0} 15. Kf4 {(15.Rf4 Rd7 16.Re5 Te6+ 17.Rd5 Tg6 18.Da7+ Re8
19.Re5 Th6 20.De3 Ta6 21.De4 Ta7 22.Rd6+ Rf8 23.Db4 Th7) +5.65/19 0} Rd5
{(15. ... Td5 16.Dc6+ Td6 17.De8+ Rd5 18.Db5+ Re6 19.Df5+ Re7 20.Re5 Tb6
21.Dh7+ Rd8 22.Df7 Tb2 23.Dc4 Re7 24.Dc7+ Re8 25.Dc6+ Re7 26.Dd6+ Re8
27.Dc7 Th2 28.Rf6 Th6+ 29.Rg7) -123.56/16 0} 16. Qc6+ {(16.Dc6+ Td6 17.De8+
Rd5 18.Db5+ Re6 19.Df5+ Re7 20.Re5 Tb6 21.Dh7+ Rd8 22.Rd5 Ta6 23.Dd3 Tf6
24.Re5+ Re7 25.Dc4 Tg6 26.Dc5+ Rd7 27.Da7+ Rd8 28.Da3 Rc7 29.De7+ Rb6
30.Rd5 Tg2 31.Dc5+ Rb7 32.Dc3 Tg5+ 33.Rd6 Tg6+ 34.Rd7 Tg1 35.Df3+ Ra6)
+5.65/16 0} Rd6 {(16. ... Td6 17.De8+ Rd5 18.Db5+ Re6 19.Df5+ Re7 20.Re5
Tb6 21.Dh7+ Rd8 22.Df7 Tc6 23.Rd5 Ta6 24.Df1 Tb6 25.Df4 Rc8 26.De3 Rc7
27.Dc5+ Rb7 28.Dd4 Rc7 29.Dg7+ Rd8 30.Dd4 Ta6 31.Dc5) -123.56/18 0} 17.
Qe8+ {(17.De8+ Rd5 18.Db5+ Re6 19.Df5+ Re7 20.Re5 Tb6 21.Dh7+ Rd8 22.Rd5
Ta6 23.Dd3 Tf6 24.Re5+ Re7 25.Dc4 Th6 26.Dc7+ Re8 27.Rf5 Rf8 28.Dc1 Th7
29.Re6 Te7+ 30.Rd6 Re8 31.Dc6+ Rf7 32.Dc4+ Rf8 33.Db3) +5.65/18 0} Kd5
{(17. ... Rd5 18.Db5+ Re6 19.Df5+ Re7 20.Re5 Tb6 21.Dh7+ Rd8 22.Df7 Tc6
23.Rd5 Ta6 24.Df1 Ta7 25.Df8+ Rc7 26.Dc5+ Rb7 27.Db5+ Rc7 28.Db4 Rd7
29.Dd6+ Rc8 30.De6+ Rb8 31.De5+ Rb7 32.Dd4 Ta6 33.Dd2 Tb6 34.Dd4)
-123.56/20 0} 18. Qb5+ {(18.Db5+ Re6 19.Df5+ Re7 20.Re5 Tb6 21.Dh7+ Rd8
22.Rd5 Ta6 23.Dd3 Tf6 24.Re5+ Re7 25.Dc4 Th6 26.Dc7+ Re8 27.Rf5 Rf8 28.Dc1
Th7 29.Re6 Te7+ 30.Rd6 Re8 31.Dc6+) +5.65/19 0} Ke6 {(18. ... Re6 19.Df5+
Re7 20.Re5 Tb6 21.Dh7+ Rd8 22.Df7 Tc6 23.Rd5 Ta6) -123.56/20 0} 19. Qf5+
{(19.Df5+ Re7 20.Re5 Tb6 21.Dh7+ Rd8 22.Rd5 Ta6 23.Dd3 Tf6 24.Re5+ Re7
25.Dc4 Th6 26.Dc7+ Re8 27.Rf5 Rf8 28.Dc1 Th7 29.Re6 Te7+ 30.Rd6) +5.65/20
0} Ke7 {(19. ... Re7 20.Re5 Tb6) -123.56/1} 20. Ke5 {(20.Re5 Tb6 21.Dh7+
Rd8 22.Rd5 Ta6) +5.65/20 0} Ra6 {(20. ... Ta6 21.Dh7+ Rf8 22.Dd3 Ta7 23.Dc4
Tf7 24.Re6 Th7 25.Df4+ Rg8 26.Dg5+ Rf8 27.Dc5+ Rg7 28.Dd4+ Rf8 29.Df4+)
-123.56/16 0} 21. Qh7+ {(21.Dh7+ Rf8) +43.54/15 0} Kf8 {(21. ... Rf8 22.Dd3
Ta7 23.Dc4 Tf7 24.Re6 Th7 25.Df4+ Rg8 26.Dg5+ Rf8 27.Dc5+ Rg7 28.Dd4+ Rf8
29.Df4+) -123.56/17 0} 22. Qd3 {(22.Dd3 Ta7 23.Dd4 Tf7 24.Re6 Rg8 25.Dd5
Tg7 26.Rf6+ Rh8 27.Dd8+ Rh7 28.Dd3+ Rh8 29.Dd4 Rg8 30.De4 Rh8 31.Dh4+ Rg8
32.Dc4+ Rh8 33.De4 Tf7+) +5.73/16 0} Rh6 {(22. ... Th6 23.Rf5 Rf7 24.Dd7+
Rg8 25.Rg5 Th7 26.De8+ Rg7 27.De5+ Rf7 28.Dd5+ Rg7 29.De4 Rg8 30.Rg6 Tg7+
31.Rh6 Rf7 32.Db7+ Re6 33.Dxg7 Rd5 34.Dg8+ Rc5 35.Db3 Rd4 36.Rg5 Rc5)
-123.56/23 0} 23. Kf5 {(23.Rf5 Rg8 24.Dd8+ Rh7 25.Dd7+ Rg8 26.Rg5 Th7
27.Dd8+ Rf7 28.Dd5+ Rg7 29.De4 Rg8 30.Rg6 Tg7+ 31.Rh6 Rf8 32.Da8+ Re7
33.Rxg7 Rd6 34.Rf6 Rc5 35.Re5 Rb4 36.Rd4 Rb5 37.Dd5+ Rb6 38.Dd7 Ra5 39.Df5+
Ra6) +49.15/22 0} Kg8 {(23. ... Rg8 24.Dd8+ Rf7 25.Dd7+ Rg8 26.Rg5 Th7
27.De8+ Rg7 28.De5+ Rf7 29.Dd5+ Rg7 30.De4 Rg8 31.Rg6 Tg7+ 32.Rh6 Rf7
33.Db7+ Re6 34.Dxg7 Rd5 35.Dc3 Rd6 36.Rg5 Rd5 37.Db4 Rc6) -123.56/27 0} 24.
Qd8+ {(24.Dd8+ Rh7 25.Dd7+ Rg8 26.Rg5 Th7 27.Dd8+ Rf7 28.Dd5+ Rg7 29.De4
Rg8 30.Rg6 Tg7+ 31.Rh6 Rf8 32.Da8+ Re7 33.Rxg7 Rd6 34.Rf6 Rc5) +102.86/22
0} Kf7 {(24. ... Rf7 25.Dd7+ Rg8 26.Rg5 Th2) -123.56/27 1} 25. Qd7+
{(25.Dd7+ Rf8 26.Rg5 Th1 27.Dd8+ Rg7 28.Dd4+ Rf8 29.Dc5+ Rg7 30.Da7+ Rf8
31.Da8+ Re7 32.Dxh1) +M18/17 0} Kg8 {(25. ... Rg8 26.Rg5 Th7 27.Dd5+ Rg7
28.De4 Rg8 29.Rg6 Tg7+ 30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Rf7 32.Db7+ Re6 33.Rxg7 Re5
34.Db4 Rf5 35.Rf7 Re5 36.Rg6 Rd5 37.Rf5 Rc6 38.Re6 Rc7 39.Db5 Rc8 40.Rd6
Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M16/19 0} 26. Kg5 {(26.Rg5 Th7 27.Dd5+ Rg7 28.De4 Rg8 29.Rg6
Tg7+ 30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Re7 32.Rxg7 Rd6 33.Rf6 Rc5 34.De4 Rb5 35.Re6 Rc5
36.Re7 Rb6 37.Rd6 Rb5 38.Dg4) +M17/19 0} Rh7 {(26. ... Th7 27.Dd5+ Rg7
28.De4 Rg8 29.Rg6 Tg7+ 30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Rf7 32.Db7+ Re6 33.Rxg7 Re5
34.Db4 Rf5 35.Rf7 Re5 36.Rg6 Rd5 37.Rf5 Rc6 38.Re6 Rc7 39.Db5 Rc8 40.Rd6
Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M15/20 0} 27. Qd5+ {(27.Dd5+ Rg7 28.De4 Rg8 29.Rg6 Tg7+
30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Re7 32.Rxg7 Rd6 33.Rf6 Rc5 34.De4 Rb5 35.Re6 Rc5 36.Re7
Rb6 37.Rd6 Rb5 38.Dg4) +M16/19 0} Kg7 {(27. ... Rg7 28.De4 Rg8 29.Rg6 Tg7+
30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Rf7 32.Db7+ Re6 33.Rxg7 Re5 34.Db4 Rf5 35.Rf7 Re5 36.Rg6
Rd5 37.Rf5 Rc6 38.Re6 Rc7 39.Db5 Rc8 40.Rd6 Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M14/21 0} 28. Qe4
{(28.De4 Rg8 29.Rg6 Tg7+ 30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Re7 32.Rxg7 Rd6 33.Rf6 Rc5
34.De4 Rb5 35.Re6 Rc5 36.Re7 Rb6 37.Rd6 Rb5 38.Dg4) +M15/20 0} Kg8 {(28.
... Rg8 29.Rg6 Tg7+ 30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Rf7 32.Db7+ Re6 33.Rxg7 Re5 34.Db4
Rf5 35.Rf7 Re5 36.Rg6 Rd5 37.Rf5 Rc6 38.Re6 Rc7 39.Db5 Rc8 40.Rd6 Rd8
41.Dd7+) -M13/20 0} 29. Kg6 {(29.Rg6 Tg7+ 30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Re7 32.Rxg7
Rd6 33.Rf6 Rc5 34.De4 Rb5 35.Re6 Rc5 36.Re7 Rb6 37.Rd6 Rb5 38.Dg4 Ra6
39.Rc6) +M14/20 0} Rg7+ {(29. ... Tg7+ 30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Rf7 32.Db7+ Re6
33.Rxg7 Re5 34.Db4 Rf5 35.Rf7 Re5 36.Rg6 Rd5 37.Rf5 Rc6 38.Re6 Rc7 39.Db5
Rc8 40.Rd6 Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M12/20 0} 30. Kh6 {(30.Rh6 Rf8 31.Da8+ Re7 32.Rxg7
Re6 33.De4+ Rd7 34.Rf6 Rd6 35.De5+ Rc6 36.Re6 Rb7 37.Rd6 Rb6 38.Dd5 Ra7
39.Rc7 Ra6 40.De5 Ra7 41.Da1+) +M12/21 0} Kf8 {(30. ... Rf8 31.Da8+ Rf7
32.Db7+ Re6 33.Rxg7 Re5 34.Db4 Rf5 35.Rf7 Re5 36.Rg6 Rd5 37.Rf5 Rc6 38.Re6
Rc7 39.Db5 Rc8 40.Rd6 Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M11/21 0} 31. Qa8+ {(31.Da8+ Re7
32.Rxg7 Re6 33.De4+ Rd7 34.Rf6 Rd6 35.De5+ Rc6 36.Re6 Rb7 37.Rd6 Rb6 38.Dd5
Ra7 39.Rc7 Ra6 40.De5 Ra7 41.Da1+) +M11/20 0} Kf7 {(31. ... Rf7 32.Db7+ Re6
33.Rxg7 Rf5 34.Db4 Re5 35.Rg6 Rd5 36.Rf5 Rc6 37.Re6) -M9/22 0} 32. Qb7+
{(32.Db7+ Re6 33.Rxg7 Rd6 34.Db4+ Rc6 35.Rg6 Rd7 36.Rf6 Rc7 37.Re6 Rc6
38.Da5 Rb7 39.Rd6 Rb8 40.Rc6 Rc8 41.Da8+) +M10/19 0} Ke6 {(32. ... Re6
33.Rxg7 Rf5 34.Db4 Re5 35.Rg6 Rd5 36.Rf5 Rc6 37.Re6) -M8/23 0} 33. Kxg7
{(33.Rxg7 Rf5 34.Db4 Re5 35.Rg6 Rd5 36.Rf6 Rc6 37.Re6 Rc7 38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6
Rd8 40.Dd7+) +M8/21 0} Kf5 {(33. ... Rf5 34.Db4 Re5 35.Rg6 Rd5 36.Rf5 Rc6
37.Re6 Rc7 38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) -M7/24 0} 34. Qb4 {(34.Db4 Re5
35.Rg6 Rd5 36.Rf6 Rc6 37.Re6 Rc7 38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) +M7/23 0}
Ke5 {(34. ... Re5 35.Rg6 Rd5 36.Rf5 Rc6 37.Re6 Rc7 38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8
40.Dd7+) -M6/26 0} 35. Kg6 {(35.Rg6 Rd5 36.Rf6 Rc6 37.Re6 Rc7 38.Db5 Rc8
39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) +M6/26 0} Kd5 {(35. ... Rd5 36.Rf5 Rc6 37.Re6 Rc7
38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) -M5/29 0} 36. Kf6 {(36.Rf6 Rc6 37.Re6 Rc7
38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) +M5/29 0} Kc6 {(36. ... Rc6 37.Re6 Rc7
38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) -M4/1} 37. Ke6 {(37.Re6 Rc7 38.Db5 Rc8
39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) +M4/46 0} Kc7 {(37. ... Rc7 38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8
40.Dd7+) -M3/1} 38. Qb5 {(38.Db5 Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) +M3/120 0} Kc8
{(38. ... Rc8 39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+) -M2/120 0} 39. Kd6 {(39.Rd6 Rd8 40.Dd7+)
+M2/120 0} Kd8 {(39. ... Rd8 40.Dd7+) -M1/1} 40. Qd7# {(40.Dd7+) +M1/120 0}
1-0

[Event "Tournoi Arena"]
[Site "LEJEUN08"]
[Date "2014.06.05"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Stockfish_14053109_32bit"]
[Black "Stockfish_syzygy_14060200_32bit"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[Time "18:02:07"]
[WhiteElo "3100"]
[TimeControl "10+0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/8/8/3k4/Q7/8/K6r/8 w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. Kb3 {(1.Rb3 Th3+ 2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Tc3
7.Dd7+) +5.54/23 0} Rh3+ {(1. ... Th3+ 2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+
5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Th2+ 7.Rg3 Tb2 8.Rf3 Rc5 9.Re3 Th2 10.Dd7 Th1 11.Dc7+ Rd5
12.Db7+) -123.56/13 0} 2. Kc2 {(2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+
6.Rf2 Tc3 7.Dd7+) +5.54/24 0} Rh2+ {(2. ... Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+
5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+
Td5 12.Df4+ Rc5+ 13.Rc3 Td7 14.Df6 Tc7) -123.56/16 0} 3. Kd3 {(3.Rd3 Th3+
4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Tc3 7.Dd7+) +5.54/24 0} Rh3+ {(3. ... Th3+
4.Re2 Th2+ 5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5
11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4 Th3)
-123.56/17 0} 4. Kd2 {(4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Re2 Td4) +5.54/24
0} Rh2+ {(4. ... Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+
10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+
16.Rd4) -123.56/17 0} 5. Ke3 {(5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Re2 Td4) +5.54/22 0}
Rh3+ {(5. ... Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5
11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4 Te1
17.Df7+ Rg5 18.Dc7 Te8 19.Dd6) -123.56/17 0} 6. Kf2 {(6.Rf2 Td3 7.Re2 Td4)
+5.54/23 0} Rd3 {(6. ... Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc7+ Rb5 9.Re2 Td5 10.Re3 Td1
11.Df7 Rc6 12.Db3 Td6 13.Re4 Td7 14.De6+ Td6 15.Dc4+ Rb6 16.Db4+ Rc6
17.Da4+ Rc5 18.Da3+ Rc6 19.Db3) -123.56/17 0} 7. Qd7+ {(7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+
Rd4 9.Df6+ Rc5 10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+ Rd5 12.Rd3 Tc6 13.Da5+ Tc5 14.Da8+ Tc6
15.Re3 Rc5 16.Da3+ Rc4 17.Dd3+ Rc5 18.Dd4+ Rb5 19.Dd5+ Tc5 20.Db3+ Rc6
21.Rd4 Ta5 22.Dc3+) +5.58/17 0} Kc4 {(7. ... Rc4 8.Dc7+ Rb5 9.Re2 Td5
10.Re3 Td1 11.Df7 Rc6 12.Db3 Td6 13.Re4 Td7 14.De6+ Td6 15.Dc4+ Rb6 16.Db4+
Rc6 17.Da4+ Rc5 18.Da3+ Rc6 19.Db3) -123.56/18 0} 8. Qc6+ {(8.Dc6+ Rd4
9.Df6+ Rc5 10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+ Rd5 12.Rd3 Tc6 13.Da5+ Tc5 14.Da8+ Tc6 15.Re3
Rc5 16.Da3+ Rc4 17.Dd3+ Rc5 18.Dd4+ Rb5 19.Dd5+ Tc5 20.Db3+ Rc6 21.Rd4 Ta5
22.Dc3+ Rb6 23.Dc4 Ta6) +5.58/18 0} Kd4 {(8. ... Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5
11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4 Te1
17.Df7+ Rg5 18.Dc7 Td1+ 19.Re4 Te1+ 20.Rf3 Rf6 21.Rf4 Te7 22.Dc6+ Rf7
23.Dc3) -123.56/19 0} 9. Qf6+ {(9.Df6+ Rc5 10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+ Rd5 12.Rd3
Tc6 13.Da5+ Tc5 14.Da8+ Tc6 15.Re3 Rc5 16.Da3+ Rc4 17.Dd3+ Rc5 18.Dd4+)
+5.58/18 0} Kc5 {(9. ... Rc5 10.De7+ Rc6 11.De6+ Td6 12.Dc8+ Rd5 13.Re3
Te6+ 14.Rd3 Re5 15.Dc5+ Rf4 16.Dd4+ Rf5 17.Dd5+ Te5 18.Df3+ Rg5 19.Dc6 Rf5
20.Rd4 Te7 21.Dc5+ Re6 22.Dd5+) -123.56/16 0} 10. Ke2 {(10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+
Rb5 12.Re3 Td5 13.Re4 Td8 14.De5+ Rc6 15.De6+ Td6 16.Dc4+ Rb6 17.Da2 Td7)
+5.58/20 0} Rd6 {(10. ... Td6 11.De7 Rc6 12.Re3 Td5 13.De8+ Rc5 14.Dc8+ Rd6
15.Df8+ Rd7 16.Re4 Tb5 17.Df7+ Rd6 18.Df6+ Rc7 19.Dc3+ Rd6 20.Dd4+ Rc6
21.Dc4+ Tc5 22.Da4+ Rd6 23.Da6+ Tc6 24.Db5 Rd7 25.Rd5) -123.56/19 0} 11.
Qc3+ {(11.Dc3+ Rb5 12.Re3 Td5 13.Re4 Td8 14.De5+ Rc6 15.De6+ Td6 16.Dc4+
Rb6 17.Da2 Td7) +5.58/20 0} Kb5 {(11. ... Rb5 12.Re3 Td7 13.De5+ Rc6
14.De6+ Td6 15.De7 Td5 16.De8+ Rc5 17.Dc8+ Rd6 18.Df8+ Rd7 19.Re4 Tb5
20.Df7+ Rd6 21.Df6+ Rc7 22.Dc3+ Rd6 23.Dd4+ Rc6) -123.56/18 0} 12. Ke3
{(12.Re3 Td5 13.Re4 Td8 14.De5+ Rc6 15.De6+ Td6 16.Dc4+ Rb6 17.Da2 Td7)
+5.58/20 0} Rd7 {(12. ... Td7 13.De5+ Rc6 14.De6+ Td6 15.Dc4+ Rd7 16.Re4
Tc6 17.Df7+ Rd6 18.Df8+ Re6 19.De8+ Rd6 20.Rd4 Rc7 21.Re5 Tb6 22.Df7+ Rc6
23.Dd5+ Rc7 24.Da8 Tb5+ 25.Re6) -123.56/17 0} 13. Qe5+ {(13.De5+ Rc6 14.Re4
Td1 15.De8+ Rc7 16.Df7+ Rd6 17.Dg6+ Rc7 18.Re5 Tc1 19.Dh7+ Rb6 20.Dh6+ Tc6
21.De3+ Rc7 22.Df4 Tc5+ 23.Rd4+ Rc6 24.Df6+ Rb5 25.De6 Tc7 26.Dd5+ Rb6
27.Dd6+ Rb7 28.Rd5 Th7 29.Dc6+ Rb8 30.Df6 Th1 31.Dd4) +5.62/17 0} Kb6 {(13.
... Rb6 14.De6+ Rc7 15.Re4 Td6 16.Dc4+ Tc6 17.Df7+ Rb6 18.Rd5 Tc5+ 19.Rd4
Tc6 20.De7 Tc1 21.Da3 Td1+ 22.Rc4 Rc7 23.Dc5+ Rd7 24.Df5+ Rc7 25.Rc5 Tc1+
26.Rb5) -123.56/18 0} 14. Ke4 {(14.Re4 Rc6 15.De6+ Td6 16.Dc4+ Rb6 17.Da2
Td7 18.Re5 Td8 19.Df7) +5.62/18 0} Kc6 {(14. ... Rc6 15.De6+ Td6 16.Dc4+
Rb6 17.Re5 Td8 18.Db4+ Rc6 19.Da4+ Rb6 20.Dh4 Tc8 21.Db4+ Rc6 22.Dd6+ Rb7
23.Rd5 Tc2 24.Db4+ Rc7 25.Da5+ Rb7 26.Da4 Tc7 27.Da5 Tc6 28.Da4) -123.56/18
0} 15. Qe6+ {(15.De6+ Rc7 16.Re5 Tg7 17.Df6 Td7 18.Da6 Rd8 19.Db6+ Re7
20.Db4+ Rf7 21.Dg4 Re7 22.Dh4+ Rf7 23.Dh7+ Re8 24.Dg8+) +5.69/19 0} Rd6
{(15. ... Td6 16.Dc4+ Rb6 17.Re5 Td8 18.Db4+ Rc6 19.Da4+ Rb6 20.Dh4)
-123.56/18 0} 16. Qc4+ {(16.Dc4+ Rb7 17.Re5 Tc6 18.De4 Rc7 19.Rd5 Td6+
20.Rc5 Ta6 21.De7+ Rb8 22.De2 Ta7 23.De8+) +5.69/20 0} Kb6 {(16. ... Rb6
17.Re5 Th6 18.Db3+ Rc6 19.Dc3+ Rb7 20.De3 Tb6 21.Rd5 Tb5+ 22.Rd6 Tb6+
23.Rc5 Tc6+ 24.Rd5) -123.56/19 0} 17. Ke5 {(17.Re5 Tc6 18.Db4+ Rc7 19.Rd5
Tb6 20.Dc5+ Rb7 21.Dc4 Tg6 22.De4 Tc6 23.Da4 Tg6 24.De8 Ta6 25.Db5+ Ra7
26.De2 Tb6 27.De4 Tb5+) +5.75/19 0} Rh6 {(17. ... Th6 18.Df4 Th5+ 19.Rd6
Tb5 20.De3+ Rb7 21.Dd4 Tb6+ 22.Rc5 Tc6+ 23.Rd5 Tc7 24.Db4+ Rc8 25.Df8+ Rb7
26.Df3 Tc8 27.Rd6+ Rb8 28.Db3+ Ra7 29.Db4 Tb8 30.Da5+ Rb7 31.Dc7+ Ra8
32.Dd7 Tb6+ 33.Rc5 Tb7 34.Dd5) -123.56/18 0} 18. Qb4+ {(18.Db4+ Ra6 19.Da3+
Rb7 20.De7+ Rc6 21.De8+ Rc7 22.Rd5 Ta6 23.De7+ Rb6 24.Db4+ Rc7 25.Dc4+ Rb7
26.Db5+ Ra7 27.Db4 Tb6 28.De4 Ra6 29.Da4+ Rb7 30.Rc5 Ta6 31.Db5+ Ra7 32.Db4
Th6 33.De4 Tb6) +6.57/18 0} Kc7 {(18. ... Rc7 19.Dc3+ Rb7 20.De3 Tb6 21.Rd5
Tb5+ 22.Rd6 Tb6+ 23.Rc5 Tc6+ 24.Rd5 Ta6 25.De4 Rc7 26.Db4 Tb6 27.Dc5+ Rb7
28.De7+ Ra6 29.De8 Rb7 30.Rc5 Th6 31.De4+ Ra7 32.Df4 Ta6) -123.56/18 0} 19.
Qe7+ {(19.De7+ Rc6 20.De8+ Rc7 21.Rd5 Ta6 22.De7+ Rb6 23.Db4+ Rc7 24.Dc4+
Rb7 25.Db5+ Ra7 26.Db4 Tb6 27.De4 Ta6 28.Rc5 Rb8 29.De8+ Rc7 30.De7+ Rb8
31.De8+) +6.57/20 0} Kc6 {(19. ... Rc6 20.De8+ Rc7 21.Df8 Ta6 22.Dc5+ Tc6
23.Da7+ Rc8 24.Rd5 Th6 25.De3 Ta6 26.De2 Rb7 27.De4 Rc7 28.Db4 Tb6 29.Dc5+
Rb7 30.De7+ Rb8 31.Dd7 Th6 32.De8+ Rb7 33.Rc5) -123.56/20 0} 20. Qe8+
{(20.De8+ Rc7 21.Rd5 Tb6 22.Rc5 Tb7 23.Dc6+ Rb8 24.Rd6 Ra7 25.Dc5+ Ra6
26.Dc8 Ra7 27.Dd8 Tb2 28.Da5+ Rb8 29.De5 Tb6+ 30.Rc5+ Ra8 31.De4+ Ra7
32.De3 Ra6 33.Da3+ Rb7 34.Df3+ Ra7 35.Df2 Tb7) +14.55/21 0} Kc7 {(20. ...
Rc7 21.Df8 Ta6 22.Dc5+ Tc6 23.Da7+ Rc8 24.Rd5 Th6 25.De3 Ta6 26.De2 Rb7
27.De4 Rc7 28.Db4 Tb6 29.Dc4+ Rb7 30.Da4 Ta6 31.Db5+ Tb6 32.Dd7+ Rb8
33.Dd8+ Rb7 34.De7+ Rb8 35.De5+ Rb7 36.De3 Tb5+ 37.Rd6 Tb6+ 38.Rc5 Tc6+
39.Rd5 Ta6 40.De4) -123.56/22 0} 21. Kd5 {(21.Rd5 Tb6 22.Rc5 Tb7 23.De4 Ta7
24.Dc6+ Rb8 25.Db6+ Ra8 26.Db4 Tc7+ 27.Rd6 Th7 28.De4+ Tb7 29.Rc6 Ra7
30.Dd5 Ra8 31.Dd4 Tc7+ 32.Rb6 Tb7+ 33.Rc5 Tc7+ 34.Rd6 Tb7 35.De4 Rb8
36.Rc6) +43.77/24 0} Rh1 {(21. ... Th1 22.De7+ Rb6 23.Df6+ Rc7 24.Df3 Tb1
25.Df4+ Rb7 26.De4 Tb6 27.Rc5+ Ra7 28.De3 Ra6 29.De8 Ra7 30.Da4+)
-123.56/22 0} 22. Qf7+ {(22.Df7+ Rd8 23.Df3 Th7 24.Df8+ Rc7 25.Df4+ Rb6
26.De3+ Rb7 27.De4 Tc7 28.Rd6+ Rb8 29.De8+ Tc8 30.Dd7 Th8 31.Dc7+ Ra8
32.Da5+ Rb7 33.Db4+ Ra6 34.Da3+ Rb5 35.Db2+ Rc4 36.Dxh8 Rd3) +M25/21 1} Kb6
{(22. ... Rb6 23.Df6+ Rc7 24.De5+ Rb6 25.De3+ Rc7 26.Df4+ Rb6 27.Rc4 Td1
28.De3+ Rc7 29.Rc5 Td7 30.De8 Td2 31.De5+ Rd7 32.Df5+ Re8 33.Rc6 Td8 34.Rc7
Td2 35.Dh5+ Re7 36.Dg5+ Re6 37.Dxd2 Re5 38.Dd3) -123.56/23 0} 23. Qf3
{(23.Df3 Tb1 24.De3+ Rc7 25.Df4+ Rb7 26.Rc5 Tb2 27.Df3+ Rc7 28.Dg3+ Rd8
29.Dg8+ Rd7 30.Dg7+ Re8 31.Dxb2 Rf7 32.Dd4 Rg6 33.Dg1+ Rf5 34.Rd5 Rf4
35.Dd4+ Rf3 36.Dc3+ Rg4 37.Re4 Rh5 38.Rf5) +M24/19 0} Rb1 {(23. ... Tb1
24.De3+ Rc7 25.Df4+ Rb7 26.De4 Tb6 27.Rc5+ Ra7 28.Da4+ Ta6 29.Db4 Th6
30.Dd4 Tb6 31.Df2 Ra6 32.Da2+ Rb7 33.Df7+ Ra6 34.Dd7 Tb2 35.Dd3+ Rb7
36.Df3+ Rc7 37.Dg3+ Rd8 38.Dg8+ Re7 39.Dg7+ Re6 40.Dxb2 Rf5 41.Rd5 Rf4
42.Rd4) -123.56/26 0} 24. Qe3+ {(24.De3+ Rc7 25.Df4+ Rb7 26.Rc5 Tb2 27.Df3+
Rc7 28.Dg3+ Rd8 29.Dg8+ Rd7 30.Dg7+ Re8 31.Dxb2 Rf7 32.Dd4 Rg6 33.Dg1+ Rf5
34.Rd4 Rf6 35.Rd5 Rf5 36.Dg7 Rf4 37.De5+ Rf3 38.Rd4 Rg2 39.Re4 Rh3 40.Dc3+
Rg4 41.Dg7+) +M21/19 0} Kc7 {(24. ... Rc7 25.Df4+ Rb7 26.De4 Tb6 27.Rc5+
Ra7 28.Da4+ Ta6 29.Db4 Th6 30.Dd4 Tb6 31.Df2 Rb7 32.Df7+ Ra6 33.Dd7 Tb2
34.Dd3+ Rb7 35.Df3+ Rc7 36.Dg3+ Rd8 37.Dg8+ Re7 38.Dg7+ Re6 39.Dxb2 Rf5
40.Dg2 Rf4 41.Rd5 Re3 42.Df1 Rd2 43.Df3 Rc2 44.De3 Rb2 45.Df2+ Rc3)
-123.56/27 0} 25. Qf4+ {(25.Df4+ Rb7 26.Rc5 Tb2 27.Df3+ Rc7 28.Dg3+ Rd8
29.Dg8+ Rd7 30.Dg7+ Re8 31.Dxb2 Rf7 32.Dd4 Rg6 33.Dg1+ Rf5 34.Rd4 Rf6
35.Rd5 Rf5 36.Dg7 Rf4 37.De5+ Rf3 38.Rd4 Rg2 39.Re4 Rh3 40.Dc3+ Rg4
41.Dg7+) +M20/20 0} Kb7 {(25. ... Rb7 26.De4 Tb6 27.Rc5+ Ra7 28.Da4+ Ta6
29.Db4 Th6 30.Dd4 Tb6 31.Df2 Rb7 32.Df7+ Ra6 33.Dd7 Tb2 34.Dd3+ Rb7 35.Df3+
Rc7 36.Dg3+ Rd8 37.Dg8+ Re7 38.Dg7+ Re6 39.Dxb2 Rf5 40.Dg2 Rf4 41.Rd5)
-123.56/31 0} 26. Kc5 {(26.Rc5 Tb2 27.Df3+ Rc7 28.Dg3+ Rd8 29.Dg8+ Rd7
30.Dg7+ Re8 31.Dxb2 Rf7 32.Dd4 Rg6 33.Dg1+ Rf5 34.Rd4 Rf6 35.Rd5 Rf5 36.Dg7
Rf4 37.De5+ Rf3 38.Rd4 Rg2 39.Re4 Rh3 40.Dc3+ Rg4 41.Dg7+) +M19/20 0} Ka7
{(26. ... Ra7 27.Dd4 Rb8 28.Dd3 Tc1+ 29.Rb6 Rc8 30.Df5+ Rd8 31.Dg5+ Rd7
32.Dxc1 Re6 33.Df4 Re7 34.Rc5 Re6) -123.56/27 1} 27. Qe3 {(27.De3 Tb6
28.Dd4 Tb7 29.Rc6+ Rb8 30.Dh8+ Ra7 31.Dd8 Th7 32.Dd4+ Rb8 33.De5+ Ra8
34.Da1+ Rb8 35.Db1+ Ra7 36.Dxh7+ Ra6 37.De7 Ra5 38.Da3+) +M12/19 0} Rb6
{(27. ... Tb6 28.Dd4 Tb7 29.Rc6+ Ra8 30.Dh8+ Ra7 31.Dd8 Th7 32.Dd4+ Rb8
33.De5+ Ra7 34.Da1+ Rb8 35.Db1+ Ra7 36.Dxh7+ Ra6 37.Db7+ Ra5 38.Db5+)
-M11/20 0} 28. Qd4 {(28.Dd4 Tb7 29.Rc6+ Rb8 30.Dh8+ Ra7 31.Dd8 Th7 32.Dd4+
Rb8 33.De5+ Ra8 34.Da1+ Rb8 35.Db1+ Ra7 36.Dxh7+ Ra6 37.De7 Ra5 38.Da3+)
+M11/21 0} Rb7 {(28. ... Tb7 29.Rc6+ Ra8 30.Dh8+ Ra7 31.Dd8 Th7 32.Dd4+ Rb8
33.De5+ Ra7 34.Da1+ Rb8 35.Db1+ Ra7 36.Dxh7+ Ra6 37.Db7+ Ra5 38.Db5+)
-M10/21 0} 29. Kc6+ {(29.Rc6+ Rb8 30.Dh8+ Ra7 31.Dd8 Th7 32.Dd4+ Rb8
33.De5+ Ra8 34.Da1+ Rb8 35.Db1+ Ra7 36.Dxh7+ Ra6 37.De7 Ra5 38.Da3+)
+M10/21 0} Ka8 {(29. ... Ra8 30.Dh8+ Ra7 31.Dd8 Th7 32.Dd4+ Rb8 33.De5+ Ra7
34.Da1+ Rb8 35.Db1+ Ra7 36.Dxh7+ Ra6 37.Db7+ Ra5 38.Db5+) -M9/22 0} 30.
Qa4+ {(30.Da4+ Rb8 31.Da5 Tb1 32.Dd8+ Ra7 33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dh8+ Ra7 35.Dh7+
Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) +M9/22 0} Kb8 {(30. ... Rb8 31.Da5
Tb1 32.De5+ Ra7 33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dh8+ Ra7 35.Dh7+ Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+
Rd8 38.Dd7+) -M8/22 0} 31. Qa5 {(31.Da5 Tb1 32.Dd8+ Ra7 33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dh8+
Ra7 35.Dh7+ Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) +M8/23 0} Rb1 {(31. ...
Tb1 32.De5+ Ra7 33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dh8+ Ra7 35.Dh7+ Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+
Rd8 38.Dd7+) -M7/24 0} 32. Qe5+ {(32.De5+ Ra7 33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dh8+ Ra7
35.Dh7+ Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) +M7/24 0} Ka7 {(32. ... Ra7
33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dh8+ Ra7 35.Dh7+ Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+)
-M6/26 0} 33. Qd4+ {(33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dh8+ Ra7 35.Dh7+ Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8
37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) +M6/26 0} Ka8 {(33. ... Ra8 34.Dh8+ Ra7 35.Dh7+ Rb8
36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) -M5/30 0} 34. Qh8+ {(34.Dh8+ Ra7 35.Dh7+
Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) +M5/32 0} Ka7 {(34. ... Ra7 35.Dh7+
Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) -M4/80 0} 35. Qh7+ {(35.Dh7+ Rb8
36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) +M4/82 0} Kb8 {(35. ... Rb8 36.Dxb1+ Rc8
37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) -M3/120 0} 36. Qxb1+ {(36.Dxb1+ Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8
38.Dd7+) +M3/120 0} Kc8 {(36. ... Rc8 37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) -M2/114 0} 37.
Qb7+ {(37.Db7+ Rd8 38.Dd7+) +M2/120 0} Kd8 {(37. ... Rd8 38.Dd7+) -M1/1 0}
38. Qd7# {(38.Dd7+) +M1/120 0} 1-0

[Event "Tournoi Arena"]
[Site "LEJEUN08"]
[Date "2014.06.05"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Stockfish_14053109_32bit"]
[Black "Stockfish_syzygy_14060200_32bit"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[Time "18:03:06"]
[WhiteElo "3100"]
[TimeControl "10+0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/8/8/3k4/Q7/8/K6r/8 w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. Kb3 {(1.Rb3 Th3+ 2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3)
+5.54/24 0} Rh3+ {(1. ... Th3+ 2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+ 5.Rf3 Th3+
6.Rf2 Th2+ 7.Rg3 Tb2 8.Rf3 Rc5 9.Re3 Th2 10.Dd7 Th1 11.Dc7+ Rd5 12.Db7+)
-123.56/13 0} 2. Kc2 {(2.Rc2 Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2
Td3) +5.54/25 0} Rh2+ {(2. ... Th2+ 3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+ 5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2
Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Td5 12.Df4+ Rc5+
13.Rc3 Td7 14.Df6 Tc7) -123.56/16 0} 3. Kd3 {(3.Rd3 Th3+ 4.Rd2 Th2+ 5.Re3
Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3) +5.54/25 0} Rh3+ {(3. ... Th3+ 4.Re2 Th2+ 5.Rf3 Th3+ 6.Rf2
Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4
13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4 Th3) -123.56/17 0} 4. Kd2 {(4.Rd2
Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3) +5.54/25 0} Rh2+ {(4. ... Th2+ 5.Re3 Th3+ 6.Rf2
Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4
13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7 15.Rd3 Te3+ 16.Rd4) -123.56/17 0} 5. Ke3 {(5.Re3
Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3) +5.54/24 0} Rh3+ {(5. ... Th3+ 6.Rf2 Td3 7.Dd7+ Rc4 8.Dc6+
Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Dd5 Te7
15.Rd3) -123.56/17 0} 6. Kf2 {(6.Rf2 Td3) +5.54/23 0} Rd3 {(6. ... Td3
7.Re2 Td4 8.Da8+ Rc5 9.Da7+ Rc4 10.Re3 Td6 11.Df7+ Rc5 12.Df5+ Td5 13.Df8+
Td6 14.Re4 Rc6 15.Df7 Rc5 16.De7 Rc6 17.Re5) -123.56/17 0} 7. Qd7+ {(7.Dd7+
Rc4 8.Dc6+ Rd4 9.Df6+ Rc5 10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+ Rb5 12.Re3 Td5) +5.58/22 0}
Kc4 {(7. ... Rc4 8.Df7+ Rc5 9.Re2 Td5 10.Re3 Te5+ 11.Rd3 Td5+ 12.Re4 Td4+
13.Re3 Td6 14.Df5+ Td5 15.Df8+ Td6 16.Df5+) -123.56/18 0} 8. Qc6+ {(8.Dc6+
Rd4 9.Df6+ Rc5 10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+ Rb5 12.Re3 Td5) +5.58/22 0} Kd4 {(8. ...
Rd4 9.Re2 Te3+ 10.Rd2 Te5 11.Dd6+ Re4 12.Dd3+ Rf4 13.Dc4+ Te4 14.Df7+ Rg5
15.Rd3 Te5 16.Dd7 Rf4 17.Dd6 Rf5 18.Rd4 Te2 19.Df8+ Rg6 20.Rd3 Te5 21.Df4
Te6 22.Dd4) -123.56/19 0} 9. Qf6+ {(9.Df6+ Rc5 10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+ Rb5
12.Re3 Td5) +5.58/22 0} Kc5 {(9. ... Rc5 10.Df8+ Rc6 11.Dc8+ Rd5 12.Dd8+
Rc4 13.Dc7+ Rd5 14.Df7+ Rc5 15.Re2 Td5 16.Re3 Te5+) -123.56/17 0} 10. Ke2
{(10.Re2 Td6 11.Dc3+ Rb5 12.Re3 Td5) +5.58/22 0} Rd6 {(10. ... Td6 11.De5+
Td5 12.Dc7+ Rd4 13.Df4+ Rc5 14.Re3 Td6 15.De5+ Rc6 16.Re4 Rd7 17.Df5+ Rc6
18.Df7 Rb5 19.Re5 Tc6 20.Rd5 Tc3 21.Rd4 Tc1 22.Dd5+ Rb4 23.Dd6+ Ra4 24.De5
Tc6 25.Rd3) -123.56/19 0} 11. Qc3+ {(11.Dc3+ Rb5 12.Re3 Td5) +5.58/21 0}
Kd5 {(11. ... Rd5 12.Rd3 Tc6 13.Dd4+ Re6 14.Re4 Td6 15.De5+ Rd7 16.Df5+ Rc6
17.Df7 Rb5 18.Re5 Tc6 19.Rd5) -123.56/15 0} 12. Kd3 {(12.Rd3 Td7 13.Dc4+
Re5+ 14.Re3 Td5 15.Dc6 Td8 16.Db5+ Rf6 17.Re4 Tf8 18.De5+ Rg6 19.De6+ Tf6
20.De8+ Rg5 21.De5+ Rg6 22.Dd5 Tf7) +5.62/20 0} Rc6 {(12. ... Tc6 13.Dd4+
Re6 14.Re4 Td6 15.De5+ Rd7 16.Df4 Re6 17.Dg4+ Rf6 18.Df5+ Re7 19.Re5 Tb6
20.Dh7+ Rd8 21.Rd5 Ta6 22.Dh8+ Rc7 23.Dc3+ Rd8 24.Dg7 Tb6) -123.56/17 0}
13. Qb3+ {(13.Db3+ Rc5 14.Re4 Tg6 15.Dc3+ Rb5 16.Df3 Rb6 17.Df7 Td6 18.Dc4
Tc6 19.Db4+ Ra6 20.Da3+ Rb7 21.Rd5 Tc7 22.Db4+) +5.62/15 0} Kc5 {(13. ...
Rc5 14.Dc4+ Rd6 15.Db4+ Re5 16.Dd4+ Re6 17.Re4 Td6 18.De5+ Rd7 19.Df4 Re6
20.Dg4+ Rf6 21.Df5+ Re7 22.Re5 Tb6 23.Dh7+ Rd8 24.Rd5 Ta6 25.Dh8+ Rc7
26.Dc3+ Rd8 27.Dg7) -123.56/17 0} 14. Ke4 {(14.Re4 Ta6 15.Dc3+ Rb6 16.Rd5
Ta5+ 17.Rd6 Tb5 18.Da3 Rb7 19.Dd3 Rb6 20.Dc3 Ra6 21.Rc6 Tb6+ 22.Rc5 Tb5+
23.Rc4 Tb7 24.Da3+ Rb6 25.Dc5+ Ra6 26.Dd5 Tc7+ 27.Rb4 Tc1 28.Dd3+ Rb7
29.De4+ Ra6 30.De3 Tc6) +5.65/17 0} Kd6 {(14. ... Rd6 15.Rd4 Re7 16.Db7+
Rd6 17.Df7 Tc7 18.Dd5+ Re7 19.Re5 Tc1 20.Dd6+ Re8 21.De6+ Rd8 22.Dh6 Td1
23.Dh4+ Rc7 24.Dc4+ Rd8 25.Re6) -123.56/15 0} 15. Kd4 {(15.Rd4 Rc7 16.Db4
Rd7 17.Db7+ Rd6 18.Df7 Tb6 19.Dd5+ Rc7 20.Rc5 Ta6 21.De5+ Rd7 22.Df5+ Re7
23.Dh7+ Rf8 24.Dc7 Tf6 25.Rd5) +5.69/19 0} Kc7 {(15. ... Rc7 16.Da3 Td6+
17.Re5 Th6 18.Da7+ Rd8 19.Df7 Ta6 20.Dc4 Tb6 21.Dd5+ Rc8 22.Dc5+ Rb7)
-123.56/16 0} 16. Qb4 {(16.Db4 Rd7 17.Db7+ Rd6 18.Df7 Tb6 19.Dd5+ Rc7
20.Rc5 Ta6 21.De5+ Rd7 22.Df5+ Re7 23.Dh7+ Rf8 24.Dc7 Tf6 25.Rd5) +5.69/21
0} Kd7 {(16. ... Rd7 17.Db7+ Rd6 18.Df7 Tb6 19.Df6+ Rc7 20.De7+ Rc6 21.De8+
Rc7 22.Rc5 Tb7 23.Dc6+ Rb8 24.Rd6 Tb2 25.Dc3 Tb6+ 26.Rc5 Tb7 27.De5+ Ra7
28.Rc6 Tb6+ 29.Rc5) -123.56/16 0} 17. Qb7+ {(17.Db7+ Rd6 18.Df7 Tb6 19.Dd5+
Rc7 20.Rc5 Ta6 21.De4 Ta5+ 22.Rb4 Ta6 23.De7+ Rc6) +5.91/20 0} Kd6 {(17.
... Rd6 18.Df7 Tb6 19.Df6+ Rc7 20.De7+ Rc6 21.De8+ Rc7 22.Rc5 Tb7 23.Dc6+
Rb8 24.Rd6 Tb2 25.Dc3 Tb6+ 26.Rc5 Tb7 27.De5+ Ra7 28.De8 Tg7 29.De6 Rb7
30.Dc6+ Rb8 31.De8+ Rb7 32.De4+) -123.56/18 0} 18. Qf7 {(18.Df7 Tc7 19.Dd5+
Re7 20.Re5 Tc1 21.Dd6+ Re8 22.Dd3 Tc7 23.Dg6+ Rd8 24.Dg8+ Rd7 25.Rd5 Re7
26.Db8 Rd7 27.Df8 Tb7 28.Df7+ Rc8 29.De8+ Rc7 30.Rc5 Ta7 31.Dc6+ Rb8
32.Db6+ Ra8 33.Db4 Tc7+ 34.Rd6 Th7 35.De4+) +43.77/25 0} Rc7 {(18. ... Tc7
19.Df6+ Rd7 20.Rd5 Rc8 21.Df8+ Rb7 22.De8 Tc2 23.Da4 Tb2 24.Rc5 Tf2 25.Dd7+
Ra6 26.Dc6+ Ra7 27.De4 Rb8 28.Dd4 Tf7 29.Dd8+ Ra7 30.Db6+ Ra8 31.Dc6+ Tb7
32.Dd5 Rb8 33.Dd8+ Ra7 34.Rc6 Ra6) -123.56/22 0} 19. Qd5+ {(19.Dd5+ Re7
20.Re5 Tc1 21.Dd6+ Re8 22.Dd3 Tc7 23.Dg6+ Rd8 24.Dg8+ Rd7 25.Rd5) +43.77/26
0} Ke7 {(19. ... Re7 20.Dg5+ Rd7 21.Rd5) -123.56/1} 20. Ke5 {(20.Re5 Tc1
21.Dd6+ Re8 22.Dd3 Tc7 23.Dg6+ Rd8 24.Dg8+ Rd7 25.Rd5 Re7 26.Db8 Rd7 27.Df8
Tb7 28.Df7+ Rc8 29.De8+ Rc7 30.Rc5 Ta7 31.Dc6+ Rb8 32.Db6+ Ra8 33.Db4 Tc7+
34.Rd6 Th7 35.De4+) +43.77/27 0} Rc1 {(20. ... Tc1 21.Dd6+ Re8 22.Db4 Ta1
23.Rf5 Tc1 24.Da4+ Rd8 25.Re5 Rc7 26.Rd5 Th1 27.Df4+) -123.56/22 0} 21.
Qb7+ {(21.Db7+ Rd8 22.Db4 Rc7 23.Rd5 Tc6 24.De7+ Rb6 25.Dd8+ Rb7 26.Dd7+
Tc7 27.Db5+ Ra7 28.Rd6 Th7 29.Dc5+ Rb8 30.Dg5 Tc7 31.Dd8+ Tc8 32.Dd7)
+49.11/27 0} Kd8 {(21. ... Rd8 22.Db2 Tc6 23.Db8+ Rd7 24.Db7+ Tc7 25.Db5+
Re7 26.Db6 Rd7 27.De6+ Rd8 28.Dg8+ Rd7 29.Rd5 Re7 30.Db8 Rd7 31.Df8 Tb7
32.Df7+ Rc8 33.De8+ Rc7 34.Rc5 Ta7 35.Df7+ Rb8 36.Dg8+ Rb7 37.Rb5 Rc7
38.Dg7+ Rb8 39.Df8+ Rb7 40.Df7+ Ra8 41.Dd5+) -123.56/24 0} 22. Qb4 {(22.Db4
Rc7 23.Rd5 Tc6 24.De7+ Rb6 25.Dd8+ Rb7 26.Dd7+ Tc7 27.Db5+ Ra7 28.Rd6 Th7
29.Dc5+ Rb8 30.Dg5 Tc7 31.Dd8+ Tc8 32.Dd7) +49.11/31 0} Kc7 {(22. ... Rc7
23.Rd5 Tc2 24.Da5+ Rb7 25.Da4 Tc8 26.Dd7+ Tc7 27.Db5+ Ra7 28.Rd6 Tc8
29.Dd7+ Rb8 30.Df7 Th8 31.Db3+ Ra7 32.Da2+ Rb6 33.Db2+ Ra5 34.Dxh8 Rb4
35.Re5 Rc5 36.Dg8 Rb4) -123.56/24 0} 23. Kd5 {(23.Rd5 Th1 24.Df4+ Rd7
25.Df5+ Rd8 26.Df3 Th7 27.Df6+ Rc7 28.De5+ Rb6 29.De3+ Rb7 30.De4 Th6
31.Rc5+ Ra7 32.De7+ Ra6 33.De2+ Ra7 34.De3 Tg6 35.Rb5+ Tb6+ 36.Dxb6+ Ra8
37.Dd8+ Ra7) +50.46/29 0} Rc2 {(23. ... Tc2 24.Da5+ Rb7 25.Da4 Tb2 26.Rc5
Rc7 27.Df4+ Rb7 28.De4+ Rc8 29.De8+ Rb7 30.De7+ Rc8 31.Df8+ Rd7 32.Df5+ Re8
33.De5+ Rf7 34.Dxb2 Re6 35.Dc2 Re5 36.Dc4 Rf5 37.Rd6 Rg5 38.Rc6 Rf5 39.Dd4
Rg6 40.De4+) -123.56/24 0} 24. Qe7+ {(24.De7+ Rb8 25.De4 Tc1 26.Df4+ Tc7
27.Rd6 Rc8 28.Dg4+ Rb8 29.De4 Tc8 30.De7 Tc1 31.De8+ Tc8 32.Dd7 Th8 33.Dc7+
Ra8 34.Da5+ Rb7 35.Db4+ Ra6 36.Da3+ Rb5 37.Db2+ Rc4 38.Dxh8 Rd3) +M25/18 0}
Kb8 {(24. ... Rb8 25.De3 Tc8 26.De6 Tc7 27.De4 Tc8 28.Rd6 Ra7 29.Rd7 Tb8
30.Rc7 Tc8+) -123.56/27 1} 25. Qe4 {(25.De4 Tc7 26.Rd6 Tc8 27.De7 Tc2
28.De8+ Tc8 29.Dd7 Th8 30.Dc7+ Ra8 31.Da5+ Rb7 32.Db4+ Ra6 33.Da3+ Rb5
34.Db2+ Rc4 35.Dxh8 Rd3) +M21/20 0} Rc7 {(25. ... Tc7 26.Rd6 Tc8 27.De6 Rb7
28.Dd7+ Rb8 29.Df7 Tc3 30.Df4 Tc7) -M16/21 0} 26. Kd6 {(26.Rd6 Tc8 27.De7
Th8 28.Dc7+ Ra8 29.Da5+ Rb7 30.Db4+ Ra6 31.Da3+ Rb5 32.Db2+ Rc4 33.Dxh8
Rd3) +M18/21 0} Rc8 {(26. ... Tc8 27.De6 Rb7 28.Dd7+ Rb8 29.Df7 Tc3 30.Df4
Tc7 31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7 33.Dd4+ Rb8 34.Dd6+ Ra8 35.Df8+) -M17/21 0} 27.
Qe7 {(27.De7 Tc3 28.De5 Tc7 29.Df4 Rc8 30.Df5+ Rb8 31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7
33.Dd4+ Rb8) +M16/21 0} Rc2 {(27. ... Tc2 28.De8+ Tc8 29.De4 Ra7 30.Rd7 Tf8
31.Da4+ Rb6 32.Db4+ Ra6 33.Dxf8 Rb5 34.Rd6 Rc4 35.Df3 Rd4 36.De2 Rc3 37.Rd5
Rb3 38.Dd2 Ra4 39.Db2 Ra5 40.Rc5 Ra6 41.Db6+) -M14/21 0} 28. Qe5 {(28.De5
Tc7 29.Df4 Rc8 30.Df5+ Rb8 31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7 33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1
35.De5+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+) +M14/21 0} Rc7 {(28. ... Tc7 29.Df4 Rc8
30.Df5+ Rb8 31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+) -M13/21 0} 29. Qf4 {(29.Df4 Rc8 30.Df5+ Rb8
31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7 33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1 35.De5+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8
37.Dh8+) +M13/22 0} Kc8 {(29. ... Rc8 30.Df5+ Rb8 31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7
33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1 35.Dd8+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8
39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M12/21 0} 30. Qf5+ {(30.Df5+ Rb8 31.De5
Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7 33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1 35.De5+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+)
+M12/21 0} Kb8 {(30. ... Rb8 31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7 33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1
35.Dd8+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8
41.Dd7+) -M11/22 0} 31. Qe5 {(31.De5 Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7 33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1
35.De5+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+) +M11/23 0} Rb7 {(31. ... Tb7 32.Rc6+ Ra7
33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1 35.Dd8+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8
39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+) -M10/22 0} 32. Kc6+ {(32.Rc6+ Ra7 33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5
Tb1 35.De5+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+) +M10/22 0} Ka7 {(32. ... Ra7 33.Da1+
Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1 35.Dd8+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8
40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M9/23 0} 33. Qa1+ {(33.Da1+ Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1 35.De5+
Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+) +M9/24 0} Kb8 {(33. ... Rb8 34.Da5 Tb1 35.Dd8+ Ra7
36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+)
-M8/1} 34. Qa5 {(34.Da5 Tb1 35.De5+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+) +M8/25 0} Rb1
{(34. ... Tb1 35.Dd8+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8
40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M7/24 0} 35. Qe5+ {(35.De5+ Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+)
+M7/25 0} Ka7 {(35. ... Ra7 36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+
Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M6/26 0} 36. Qd4+ {(36.Dd4+ Rb8 37.Dh8+ Ra7
38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) +M6/27 0} Ka8 {(36. ... Ra8
37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M5/30 0} 37.
Qh8+ {(37.Dh8+ Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) +M5/38 0}
Ka7 {(37. ... Ra7 38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M4/65 0}
38. Qh7+ {(38.Dh7+ Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) +M4/102 0} Kb8
{(38. ... Rb8 39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M3/71 0} 39. Qxb1+
{(39.Dxb1+ Rc8 40.Db7+ Rd8 41.Dd7+) +M3/120 0} Kc8 {(39. ... Rc8 40.Db7+
Rd8 41.Dd7+) -M2/110 0} 40. Qb4 {(40.Db4 Rd8 41.Df8+) +M2/120 0} Kd8 {(40.
... Rd8 41.Df8+) -M1/1} 41. Qf8# {(41.Df8+) +M1/120 0} 1-0
[/pgn]
Vinvin wrote:
lkaufman wrote:
Vinvin wrote:
IWB wrote:Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.
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BYe
Ingo
Here's the main question : is the 0.89% difference due to the settings or due to statistical error ? For me, it's due 100% to statistical error. The other mean is the 4 pcs EGTB add not even a fraction of rating point to SF ...
4 pc EGTB should at least lead to playing queen vs. rook optimally. I don't know how often that occurs. My best guess is that it's worth about 2 elo. There may be some rare cases of other endgames, maybe rook vs knight or rook vs bishop, where it could make a difference. It helps to know which cases of those endings are won and which are drawn.
Do you "know" or do you "suppose" that SF without EGBT makes inferior results in the QvsR endgames ?
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

Post by Uri Blass »

Vinvin wrote:
IWB wrote:Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.
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BYe
Ingo
Here's the main question : is the 0.89% difference due to the settings or due to statistical error ? For me, it's due 100% to statistical error. The other mean is the 4 pcs EGTB add not even a fraction of rating point to SF ...
I do not understand how do you know?

People talk only about advantage of playing the endgame perfectly
but it is not the only advantage and there are at least 2 different advantage by tablebases.

1)Knowing positions not to go.

Stockfish's static evaluation is wrong for some tablebases position and stockfish may fail by going into them when the problem is not playing the position perfectly but not to go to them.

Stockfish without tablebases may go to the following position with white only to discover too late that it is a draw

[d]k7/2Q5/8/8/8/8/7K/6r1 b - - 5 1

The fact that it can see at depth above 20 that it is a draw is not going to help it if the remaining depth in this position is only 10 plies.

2)Playing faster.
Stockfish can save time by not searching some tablebase positions so the advantage can be simply that it is going one ply deeper in the relevant lines that do not lead to 4 tablebases piece positions.
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Re: H4 or S5 !?

Post by lkaufman »

Vinvin wrote:
lkaufman wrote:
Vinvin wrote:
IWB wrote:Overall S5 with 4pc SYZ was better by 0.89% - but even that is within the error bar.
...
BYe
Ingo
Here's the main question : is the 0.89% difference due to the settings or due to statistical error ? For me, it's due 100% to statistical error. The other mean is the 4 pcs EGTB add not even a fraction of rating point to SF ...
4 pc EGTB should at least lead to playing queen vs. rook optimally. I don't know how often that occurs. My best guess is that it's worth about 2 elo. There may be some rare cases of other endgames, maybe rook vs knight or rook vs bishop, where it could make a difference. It helps to know which cases of those endings are won and which are drawn.
Do you "know" or do you "suppose" that SF without EGBT makes inferior results in the QvsR endgames ?
I suppose. But even if SF wins the queen side without TBs, it may defend the losing side better with them, which may pay off against opponents without TBs. Also, as Uri points out, it saves time whenever this (or other) endgames arise during the search.