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How will Komodo score in 4 handicap games with Erenburg?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:33 pm

0.5 or less
1
6%
1 point
1
6%
1.5 points.
1
6%
2 points.
3
18%
2.5 points.
2
12%
3 points.
9
53%
 
Total votes: 17

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That's give Komodo on these condition wich rating ? And does it give us a better estimation of the real Komodo FIDE elo ?
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JJJ wrote:I don't think the GM can win any single game, but maybe, draw one or two.

I go with 0,5/4

Wich contempt will be used by komodo ?
Spot on too, earlier than me :)
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JJJ wrote:That's give Komodo on these condition wich rating ? And does it give us a better estimation of the real Komodo FIDE elo ?
Above 2900 FIDE ELO for Komodo in these conditions. If my derivation of 400 FIDE ELO points handicap compared to 24 core Komodo at LTC, then the full Komodo would be a bit above FIDE 3300. But only 4 games, so I would keep my older 3250 full Komodo based on more games and 2850 Komodo in these conditions.
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Laskos wrote:
JJJ wrote:That's give Komodo on these condition wich rating ? And does it give us a better estimation of the real Komodo FIDE elo ?
A bit above 2900 FIDE ELO for Komodo in these conditions. If my derivation of 400 FIDE ELO points handicap compared to 24 core Komodo at LTC, then the full Komodo would be a bit above FIDE 3300. But only 4 games, so I would keep my older 3250 full Komodo based on more games and 2850 Komodo in these conditions.
Could a 2800 GM win one game in these conditions ?
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JJJ wrote:
Laskos wrote:
JJJ wrote:That's give Komodo on these condition wich rating ? And does it give us a better estimation of the real Komodo FIDE elo ?
A bit above 2900 FIDE ELO for Komodo in these conditions. If my derivation of 400 FIDE ELO points handicap compared to 24 core Komodo at LTC, then the full Komodo would be a bit above FIDE 3300. But only 4 games, so I would keep my older 3250 full Komodo based on more games and 2850 Komodo in these conditions.
Could a 2800 GM win one game in these conditions ?
In 8 games match I would estimate maybe 1 win and close to 4-5 draws. Depends very much on individual GM and the handling of openings.
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Dan Cooper wrote:What was the final decision on contempt setting? I skimmed, but didn't see it posted.
I used Contempt = 20 thruout the match. In view of the final score (3.5 for Komodo to 0.5 for Erenburg) maybe it should have been a bit higher. Last game was a very drawish queen and Pawn endgame, but he overlooked a tactic that won a pawn and the game.
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I can't find the games in PGN format :idea:
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Laskos wrote:
JJJ wrote:I don't think the GM can win any single game, but maybe, draw one or two.

I go with 0,5/4

Wich contempt will be used by komodo ?
Spot on too, earlier than me :)
Yeah, this time I was accurate by instinct :)

I m happy these games are happening because it can confirm the strenght of engines.
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JJJ wrote:
Laskos wrote:
JJJ wrote:That's give Komodo on these condition wich rating ? And does it give us a better estimation of the real Komodo FIDE elo ?
A bit above 2900 FIDE ELO for Komodo in these conditions. If my derivation of 400 FIDE ELO points handicap compared to 24 core Komodo at LTC, then the full Komodo would be a bit above FIDE 3300. But only 4 games, so I would keep my older 3250 full Komodo based on more games and 2850 Komodo in these conditions.
Could a 2800 GM win one game in these conditions ?
I asked Sergey after the match how he thought Carlsen would do against Komodo under the same conditions. Bear in mind that Sergey actually has a 2 to 2 even score against Carlsen, although he was "only" around 2700 FIDE when those games were played. Anyway, he thought that Carlsen would be very unlikely to win any game, but might draw most with these handicaps.
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lkaufman wrote:
JJJ wrote:
Laskos wrote:
JJJ wrote:That's give Komodo on these condition wich rating ? And does it give us a better estimation of the real Komodo FIDE elo ?
A bit above 2900 FIDE ELO for Komodo in these conditions. If my derivation of 400 FIDE ELO points handicap compared to 24 core Komodo at LTC, then the full Komodo would be a bit above FIDE 3300. But only 4 games, so I would keep my older 3250 full Komodo based on more games and 2850 Komodo in these conditions.
Could a 2800 GM win one game in these conditions ?
I asked Sergey after the match how he thought Carlsen would do against Komodo under the same conditions. Bear in mind that Sergey actually has a 2 to 2 even score against Carlsen, although he was "only" around 2700 FIDE when those games were played. Anyway, he thought that Carlsen would be very unlikely to win any game, but might draw most with these handicaps.
I think the same