Man vs machine - how to beat chess engine

[hammerklavier]

Gustavo, are you a new member? Welcome! Are you a fan of the Hammerklavier sonata by Beethoven?

Thanks!!! Two of my great passions are Chess and Music, I am piano teacher. My favorite Beethoven Sonata is precisely the op.106 Hammerklavier.

Regards!

[Father]

December 23 th 201e

To everybody wth love and respect.


God bless you. Merry Chrismas and a happy new year 2013

Best regards,


Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
An antichess player resting in the peace of God.

[Robert Flesher]

Ya nadie juega contra los Engines. Solo jugan cientos miles y millones de partidas engines vs engine . Eso hace que no progresemos nada en nuestro juego, nadie juega mejor por "ver" jugar a dos engines.
Lo que si hace que juguemos mejor es lo que esta haciendo Kvicala Miroslav!, jugar contra engines nos agudiza muchisimo mentalmente!, hace que empecemos a entender los puntos debiles de los engines. Decir que Kvicala hace trampa es claramente un acto de envidia , ya que muy pocos aqui podran igualar sus resultados. Hay que "DESMITIFICAR" el ELO , cuando alguien dice que le gana a Houdini 3 de 3300 elo, tendemos a creer que hay algun truco de por medio,ya que lo vemos como una lucha entre DAVID vs GOLIATH . Lo real es que primero que nada esos 3300 puntos no son comparables a el elo HUMANO. Siempre que veo los rankings CCRL SSDF CEGT IPPON me causa muchisima gracia.... y me doy cuenta de lo poco util que es el sistema elo , para medir la fuerza de un jugador.

MIS FELICITACIONES Kvicala Miroslav!!!! SIGUE JUGANDO Y MOSTANDONOS TUS PARTIDAS!! DE ELLAS SE PUEDE APRENDER MUCHO!

Saludos desde ARGENTINA

LOL!
Believe what you will, but reality is often far from your hopes. I am not saying that it is not possible that this new character is doing what he posts. However, I believe it is extremely unlikely! You see alot of people post these results, but anyone can do the same. Take backs, computer assistance, etc, etc. If you can achieve these results without assistance, why are you/they not playing among the world's top elite?Let me see them do this under controlled conditions, where others are watching (live), then I'll say, WOW! Until then, I remain sceptical, if not laughing at the naiveity. Of course I am only a 2100-2200 strength player, so most of you super GM's must know better. Therefore, I must study more to become this elite computer killing champion. Hilarious!

[S.Taylor]

Gustavo, are you a new member? Welcome! Are you a fan of the Hammerklavier sonata by Beethoven?

Thanks!!! Two of my great passions are Chess and Music, I am piano teacher. My favorite Beethoven Sonata is precisely the op.106 Hammerklavier.

Regards!

Yes, I agree, It's very great, if played right.
(I actually wouldn't mind classical music topics, but it wouldn't last long in this section CCC, but would be fine in the CTF section)
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[overlord]

New Stockfish 3 is extremly human friendly (it was never so easy to success against the strong engine). The next game was played on Samsung Galaxy Note II, well, there are mistakes...but it is great example how can man beat engine

[Event "10 min. game"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2013.06.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Black "Stockfish 3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A42"]
[PlyCount "151"]

1. d4 g6 2. c4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. Be3 e5 7. d5 Nd4 8. Be2 Nxe2 9. Qxe2 f5 10. h3 Bxf3 11. Qxf3 f4 12. Bd2 Nf6 13. g4 Qe7 14. O-O-O Nd7 15. h4 Nc5 16. Qe2 O-O-O 17. f3 h5 18. g5 Kb8 19. Kb1 Nd7 20. Be1 Nb6 21. Bf2 Qd7 22. b3 Rhe8 23. Kb2 Nc8 24. a4 a6 25. Ra1 Qe7 26. b4 Rg8 27. Rhb1 Qd7 28. Kc2 Rgf8 29. Kd2 Ne7 30. c5 dxc5 31. bxc5 c6 32. d6 Ka8 33. Qc4 Qh3 34. Ke2 Ng8 35. Rb6 Qc8 36. Rab1 Rd7 37. a5 Ka7 38. Na4 Rff7 39. Qe6 Rf8 40. Qxg6 Qe8 41. Qxe8 Rxe8 42. Nb2 Kb8 43. Nc4 Ka7 44. R6b3 Rf7 45. Rd3 Ref8 46. Nb6 Rd8 47. Rbd1 Rff8 48. d7 Kb8 49. Rd6 Rf7 50. Be1 Re7 51. Bc3 Kc7 52. Nc4 Rexd7 53. Rxd7+ Rxd7 54. Rxd7+ Kxd7 55. Bxe5 Bf8 56. Nd6 Ne7 57. Bxf4 Bg7 58. Nf5 Bc3 59. Nxe7 Kxe7 60. Bd2 Bd4 61. Bb4 Be5 62. Ke3 Bh2 63. f4 Bg1+ 64. Kf3 Bd4 65. f5 Kf7 66. Kf4 Bg7 67. e5 Bh8 68. Bc3 Kf8 69. f6 Kf7 70. Kf5 Kf8 71. e6 Bxf6 72. gxf6 b6 73. cxb6 Kg8 74. Kg6 c5 75. e7 c4 76. f7# 1-0

[overlord]

And some other games against Stockhish 3...

The first one is game won in very human style

[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2013.06.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Black "Stockfish 3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C02"]
[PlyCount "75"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Qb6 6. a3 c4 7. Qe2 Bd7 8. Nbd2 Be7 9. g3 Na5 10. Bg2 Nh6 11. O-O O-O 12. h3 Ba4 13. Nh2 Rfc8 14. Ng4 Nxg4 15. Qxg4 Bc2 16. f4 Qb5 17. h4 Bd3 18. Rf2 Qa4 19. Qf3 Bf5 20. Kh2 Rf8 21. g4 Bc2 22. g5 Nc6 23. Bh3 g6 24. Bg4 b5 25. h5 gxh5 26. Bxh5 b4 27. Bg4 Bd3 28. f5 bxc3 29. f6 Bc5 30. Qh3 Nxe5 31. Bf3 Bd6 32. Kg2 Nxf3 33. Qh6 Nh4+ 34. Kh3 Nf5 35. Rxf5 Bxf5+ 36. Kh4 Bg3+ 37. Kxg3 c2 38. Qg7# 1-0



[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2013.05.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Black "Stockfish 3"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D85"]
[WhiteElo "2035"]
[PlyCount "165"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nxc3 6. bxc3 Bg7 7. Nf3 c5 8. Rb1 O-O 9. Be2 Nc6 10. d5 Bxc3+ 11. Bd2 Bxd2+ 12. Qxd2 Na5 13. h4 f6 14. h5 g5 15. Nxg5 fxg5 16. Qxg5+ Kh8 17. h6 Rf7 18. Bh5 Qg8 19. Qxg8+ Kxg8 20. Bxf7+ Kxf7 21. Rh5 Bd7 22. Rg5 Rh8 23. Rg7+ Ke8 24. f4 b6 25. g4 Nc4 26. Ke2 a6 27. Rd1 Bb5 28. Kf3 Nb2 29. Rd2 Nc4 30. Rh2 Ba4 31. Rh1 Nd2+ 32. Ke3 Nc4+ 33. Kd3 Nb2+ 34. Kc3 Nd1+ 35. Rxd1 Bxd1 36. Kd2 Bf3 37. Ke3 Bd1 38. g5 Bh5 39. f5 Bf7 40. a4 Kf8 41. Kd3 b5 42. a5 Be8 43. e5 b4 44. f6 Bb5+ 45. Kc2 exf6 46. gxf6 Bc4 47. d6 Ke8 48. e6 Bxe6 49. Re7+ Kd8 50. Rxe6 Kd7 51. Re7+ Kxd6 52. Rg7 c4 53. Rg4 b3+ 54. Kb2 Rf8 55. Rxc4 Rxf6 56. Rb4 Kc5 57. Rb6 Rxb6 58. axb6 Kxb6 59. Kxb3 Kb5 60. Ka3 Ka5 61. Kb3 Kb6 62. Kb4 a5+ 63. Ka4 Ka6 64. Kb3 Kb5 65. Ka3 a4 66. Kb2 Kb4 67. Ka2 Kc4 68. Ka3 Kd5 69. Kxa4 Kc4 70. Ka3 Kd5 71. Kb3 Ke6 72. Kc3 Kd5 73. Kd3 Ke6 74. Ke3 Ke5 75. Kf3 Kf5 76. Kg2 Ke4 77. Kh1 Kd3 78. Kg2 Ke2 79. Kh1 Kf1 80. Kh2 Ke2 81. Kh1 Kf1 82. Kh2 Ke2 83. Kh1 1/2-1/2

[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2013.05.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Black "Stockfish 3"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C72"]
[WhiteElo "2035"]
[PlyCount "65"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 d6 5. O-O Bd7 6. c3 g6 7. h3 Nf6 8. d3 Bg7 9. Bg5 O-O 10. Nbd2 Qe8 11. Re1 Nh5 12. Nf1 h6 13. Be3 Kh8 14. Ng3 Nxg3 15. fxg3 f5 16. Qd2 fxe4 17. dxe4 g5 18. g4 Qg6 19. Bc2 Rae8 20. Nh2 Be6 21. b3 Bf6 22. Nf1 Bd7 23. Ng3 Nd8 24. Rf1 Ne6 25. Nf5 h5 26. Bd1 h4 27. Bc2 Bc6 28. Rae1 Ra8 29. Rf2 Qe8 30. Ref1 Nf4 31. Re1 Ne6 32. Ref1 Nf4 33. Re1 1/2-1/2

[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2013.06.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Black "Stockfish 3, Microsoft"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A42"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{256MB, Mirekbook.ctg} 1. d4 g6 2. c4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Nc6 5. Be3 e5 6. d5 Nce7 7. Bd3 f5 8. f3 Bh6 9. Qd2 Bxe3 10. Qxe3 Nf6 11. h3 O-O 12. Nge2 c6 13. O-O Qc7 14. Rac1 f4 15. Qf2 Bd7 16. b4 Qb6 17. a3 cxd5 18. Nxd5 Nexd5 19. cxd5 Kf7 20. Rc3 Rfc8 21. Rfc1 Rxc3 22. Rxc3 g5 23. Nc1 h5 24. Nb3 g4 25. hxg4 hxg4 26. Qxb6 axb6 27. Nd2 Ke7 28. Bf1 b5 29. Kf2 gxf3 30. gxf3 b6 31. Nb1 Nh5 32. Rc7 Kd8 33. Rc3 Ng3 34. Bg2 Nh5 35. Rc1 Ng3 36. Rc3 Ke7 37. Rc7 Kd8 38. Rc3 1/2-1/2

[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2013.06.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Black "Stockfish 3"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E99"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "84"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. d4 O-O 5. e4 d6 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. Be3 f5 11. f3 b6 12. b4 a5 13. a3 fxe4 14. fxe4 Rxf1+ 15. Bxf1 Qf8 16. Nc2 Bh6 17. Qd2 Bxe3+ 18. Qxe3 axb4 19. axb4 Rxa1 20. Nxa1 Nf6 21. Be2 Bg4 22. Nb3 Bxe2 23. Qxe2 Qa8 24. Qb2 c5 25. b5 Qf8 26. Qf2 Kf7 27. Qa2 Qh6 28. Qd2 g5 29. Nc1 Qh4 30. Qe2 Nf5 31. Nd3 Kg7 32. Qf2 Qxf2+ 33. Kxf2 Nd4 34. h3 g4 35. h4 Nd7 36. g3 h5 37. Nb2 Kf7 38. Nbd1 Nf6 39. Ne3 Ke8 40. Ned1 Kf7 41. Ne3 Ke8 42. Ned1 Kf7 1/2-1/2

[Cubeman]

[pgn]
[Event "Blitz:5'"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2013.06.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kvicala, Miroslav"]
[Black "Stockfish 3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C02"]
[PlyCount "75"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Qb6 6. a3 c4 7. Qe2 Bd7 8. Nbd2 Be7 9. g3 Na5 10. Bg2 Nh6 11. O-O O-O 12. h3 Ba4 13. Nh2 Rfc8 14. Ng4 Nxg4 15. Qxg4 Bc2 16. f4 Qb5 17. h4 Bd3 18. Rf2 Qa4 19. Qf3 Bf5 20. Kh2 Rf8 21. g4 Bc2 22. g5 Nc6 23. Bh3 g6 24. Bg4 b5 25. h5 gxh5 26. Bxh5 b4 27. Bg4 Bd3 28. f5 bxc3 29. f6 Bc5 30. Qh3 Nxe5 31. Bf3 Bd6 32. Kg2 Nxf3 33. Qh6 Nh4+ 34. Kh3 Nf5 35. Rxf5 Bxf5+ 36. Kh4 Bg3+ 37. Kxg3 c2 38. Qg7# 1-0
[/pgn]
Liked this game, you played well, this line of French Advance looks dangerous for black to castle king side, and black missed chance to breakout with an earlier f6/f5.

[overlord]

Thanks for game replay window. I would do that but I got my first PC when I was about 20 years old and since that time we dind´t become friends...so my IT skills are very limited... You are right, it is dangerous especially for engines (if they don´ t play f6 in proper moment and/or don´t start advancing b pawn early enough.

[mar]

Liked this game, you played well, this line of French Advance looks dangerous for black to castle king side, and black missed chance to breakout with an earlier f6/f5.

I doubt StockFish would move into mate by commiting the blunder 32 ... Nxf3?? Something smells here and it's not StockFish

[overlord]

Just check with Stockfish...at depth 14 it wants to play Nxf3 I should take on c3 immediately then it would be win clearly (as Houdini 3 shown).