Who will be next?
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Tony Thomas
Who will be next?
To date only 4 engines have crossed the 3000 elo barrier, namely Rybka, Zappa, Shredder, Naum. With the improvement we have seen in Fritz 11, it is almost certain that Fritz will break that barrier as well. Which one of the engine do you think will be the next to do it? My money is on Hiarcs by the way. Did you guys notice that Glaurung was the first free engine to pass the free Rybka 1.0 64bit? Provided that Glaurung uses enough CPU's. The above hasnt been acheived by any other free engine so far.
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Matthias Gemuh
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Re: Who will be next? BigLion ?
Tony Thomas wrote:To date only 4 engines have crossed the 3000 elo barrier, namely Rybka, Zappa, Shredder, Naum. With the improvement we have seen in Fritz 11, it is almost certain that Fritz will break that barrier as well. Which one of the engine do you think will be the next to do it? My money is on Hiarcs by the way. Did you guys notice that Glaurung was the first free engine to pass the free Rybka 1.0 64bit? Provided that Glaurung uses enough CPU's. The above hasnt been acheived by any other free engine so far.
I hope to resume work on BigLion very soon.
Best,
Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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swami
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Re: Who will be next?
In this order,I would guess.Tony Thomas wrote:To date only 4 engines have crossed the 3000 elo barrier, namely Rybka, Zappa, Shredder, Naum. With the improvement we have seen in Fritz 11, it is almost certain that Fritz will break that barrier as well. Which one of the engine do you think will be the next to do it? My money is on Hiarcs by the way. Did you guys notice that Glaurung was the first free engine to pass the free Rybka 1.0 64bit? Provided that Glaurung uses enough CPU's. The above hasnt been acheived by any other free engine so far.
1.Fruit/Chess 64 (I'm hoping that these engines 'd pull a pleasant surprise in CCT)
2.Deep Fritz (When the multi processor version is out,this would easily cross 3000 mark)
3.Hiarcs(12th version...and an update to that,certainly a 3000 elo)
4.Toga (faster development, and as soon as the mp support is added)
5.Glaurung(Tord is a good programmer)
6.Deep Junior(slower development this year compared to most of the other engines,when it takes part in the next official tourney,maybe the author would release the new version)
7.Bright (good scope for this engine, rapid improvement at higher level)
8.Loop(haven't heard of since..another version and it will cross 3000,I presume the author is busy nowadays)
9.DeepSjeng,Smarthink,Chessmaster
10.Alaric,Movei, and Hamsters,If Alessandro keeps improving 50-100 elo per version which he does, who knows it might even cross 3000 mark one day...not more than 2 years.
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swami
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Re: Who will be next?
btw it seems Hiarcs is already a 3000 elo according to CCRL, I would put this in level with Fruit,certainly ahead of Fritz.
1.Chess64/Hiarcs/Fruit, 2.Deep Fritz etc
1.Chess64/Hiarcs/Fruit, 2.Deep Fritz etc
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Graham Banks
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Re: Who will be next? BigLion ?
That's good news Matthias.Matthias Gemuh wrote: I hope to resume work on BigLion very soon.
Best,
Matthias.
Regards, Graham.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Eelco de Groot
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Re: Who will be next?
I have this dream of one day Dancing Dragon joining the fray
Well I think it sounds better than Mjolnir and there is already a legitimate engine called Thor's Hammer I believe

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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: Who will be next?
In my rating list which will be published soon I hope,only one version of Rybka has crossed the 3000 Elo barrier;
Rybka 2.3.2a MP r 3032
Rybka 2.3.2a MP r 3032
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Rubinus
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Re: Who will be next? BigLion ?
Probably super joke, but good luck!Matthias Gemuh wrote:I hope to resume work on BigLion very soon.
Best,
Matthias.
In sequence
1620m - Sněžka (top mountain in Czech republic)
2000 - minor barrier
2121 - my top FIDE ELO
2400 - cca IM
2550 - cca IGM
2650 - top 100 humans?
2850 - human champion?
3000 - last step
Best wishes Pavel Háse
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Rubinus
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Re: Who will be next?
Fritz and Junior UCI? I am heretic?swami wrote: In this order,I would guess.
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2.Deep Fritz (When the multi processor version is out,this would easily cross 3000 mark)
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6.Deep Junior(slower development this year compared to most of the other engines,when it takes part in the next official tourney,maybe the author would release the new version)
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Tony Thomas
Re: Who will be next?
When I checked last night Hiarcs was about 13 points shy of reaching the 3000 point barrier. Fritz 10 4 cpu is already at 2993, since Fritz 11 is almost 70 points stronger than its predecessor, it is almost certain that it will pass the 3000 barrier. The funny thing is that with all these strong engines, I no longer even care for stronger engines. A Zappa better at my time control would certainly be nice.swami wrote:btw it seems Hiarcs is already a 3000 elo according to CCRL, I would put this in level with Fruit,certainly ahead of Fritz.
1.Chess64/Hiarcs/Fruit, 2.Deep Fritz etc