[CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

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Which 3 Engines will get Promoted?

Poll ended at Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:14 pm

Cyrano
4
14%
Garbochess
5
18%
Twisted Logic
8
29%
Porucznik
2
7%
Kiwi
2
7%
Greko
1
4%
Greko
1
4%
RomiChess
2
7%
Drunkenmaster
1
4%
DeepPatzer
2
7%
Other
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 28

Tony Thomas

Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

Post by Tony Thomas »

Michael Sherwin wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:Shoot, I sure can use a Romi that sees advantages that other engines see...In a game against Oxygen online the other day, oxygen was seeing +2.2 advantage for itself, and romi was only seeing a slight disadvantage until it was too late. Romi wasnt even seeing the line Oxygen was kibitzing.
Then Romi would not be Romi anymore. What about the 10's of thousands of games where Romi did not see the other sides huge advantage and then won against all reason. Those would go away also. Maybe what would be left would be renamed Fruitka! And by the way I am working (slowly) on a 'Fruitka', but it is not a Romika. Anyway, once my Fruitka is up and running, I will give it all sorts of crazy new ideas. Then I can see which of my ideas are good and which are crap. In the meantime I hope to make RomiChess stronger. I will do all this as I find the time. And I do not know when that will be.

Guenther Simon once wrote, "Romi can even lose from a superior position"! :lol: That was just after Romi won a bunch of games from inferrior positions. So it was a bit sarcastic! :wink:

I'll send something soon. :D
Am I glad to see you back..I lost 5 games against Twisted Logic today on ICC..Well, I won one of them because twisted lost on time in a mate in 6..
May be you should stop the development of Romi at the current version..Remove all the crazy stuff, and call it Goat. "Move like a lamb, kicks like a goat" (Remember Cassius)..I mean, they have viper, Biglion, Robin, and all kinds of other animals, why not a goat?? Did you get the PGN from Wael, if you dont have time to make a new book we should use the Polyglot book from Robindu Guha,the author of OxygenX, at least temporarily.

Here is a comment about his book from Jeroen..
Round 9 saw a long game against Joker. Rybka won, which means Rybka is the winner of the ICT Leiden tournament with a 8.5/9 score. Surprisingly of all participants Joker made the most theory moves against Rybka . Then a well known position remained, with white a pawn up and black having compensation. Rybka quickly grasped the initiative, but the ending was still difficult to win. 45.Rd1? was a huge blunder, after which the game was over.
So basically Joker lost due to the blunder..
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Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

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No pgn from Wael, yet. I am only back a little as I am forcing myself to work during all the pandimonium around here.
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Tony Thomas

Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

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Michael Sherwin wrote:No pgn from Wael, yet. I am only back a little as I am forcing myself to work during all the pandimonium around here.
I just send him a PM, hopefully he will send you a PGN quickly, then I can make few games with two Romi's, one using his book and another one using the Polyglot boook..By the way, I am sort of against Romi going Fruitka, dont we have enough Fruity engines already..I say go Glaurung, since Tord says he follows Phalanx..
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Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

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I've took a look at my Twisted but didn't find such setting; then I saw that Swami version is 20080530 and mine -- 20080404x :)
Any intentions to publish it?
take it easy :)
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Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

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Glaurungka would be more to my style! :D
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Tony Thomas

Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

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Michael Sherwin wrote:Glaurungka would be more to my style! :D
I would rather have a plain Goatka, but if Glaurungka is the only way to get you back in to programming, then I say go for it..We can use Purplerobe for the internet tournanment if you want, even better Carnivore.. :lol:
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Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

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Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:Glaurungka would be more to my style! :D
I would rather have a plain Goatka, but if Glaurungka is the only way to get you back in to programming, then I say go for it..We can use Purplerobe for the internet tournanment if you want, even better Carnivore.. :lol:
Well, if you were to buy a computer with 8192 processors then Carnivor would be a good choice! :lol: Carnivor has only 8 letters because I started it on a plain dos box with a free dos compiler. Dos limits file names to 8 characters.

I know that you are joking about PurpleRobe, but, just incase that you are not, "don't use it"! 8-) It is just an experimentally modified Toga. Use RomiChess. Have you tried NG9 at ICC instead? Is Romi using her learning at ICC?

I am working on a surprise for you, but, it will take a few weeks to have ready! :D
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Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

Post by Edsel Apostol »

Hi Evgenii,

I will release it soon. The latest beta is about as strong or stronger than some commercial engines on longer time controls.

There still seems to be a problem with time controls with ponder on especially when giving mate. It's very unfortunate to lose on time when it is about to give a mate.
Tony Thomas

Re: [CCB] Division 5,Edition 9

Post by Tony Thomas »

Edsel Apostol wrote:Hi Evgenii,

I will release it soon. The latest beta is about as strong or stronger than some commercial engines on longer time controls.

There still seems to be a problem with time controls with ponder on especially when giving mate. It's very unfortunate to lose on time when it is about to give a mate.
It might be an interface problem if the problem occurs under chesspartner over the internet..