Gerold,
Yes this is absolutly truth.
If I take a comparation, in my owns performances, playing against normal machines, between years 2004-2005-2006-2007-2008, and against "normal settings and machines" the line is growing in favor of the machines inside, its has been sometihing like this: 55%-50%-45%-20%- -------(minus every second) and now, probably with Rybka 3, the line will be more in favoragain to the machines engines inside.
New hardwares, and better chess programs are doing really hard to take for a human being a simple draw.
Now, everybody know, about special profiles of antihuman machines like Quark, from Thomas Mayer, Craffty, Tiger, that are really a strong puzzle for the human being imagination.
I am not sure, If it is possible to destroy 100% the anticomputer sistem or style of chess, across the normals profiles, and the antichess as a pure or extreme kind of antiomachine game.
Of course man versus machine have nor ended of all. Days were a perfect machine avoid all times take draws and some victories for human beings rase, probably, are going to be in the imagination dimention.
Best regards,
Pablo
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Father
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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Pablo
In my opinion and I am sure a few others you have contributed to chess over all more than some people realize. The name of the game is computer chess. It is one thing to create a program to play chess, another to make it play superior chess but then to have someone point out some of the weakness' of the majority of the programs out there can only lead to better programming in the long run. You anti-chess or whom ever first coined the term is like you are saying making chess programmers think a little harded and hopefully some day lead to some kind of 'solved' situation.
Once again I think most of the people here should be proud of the work that you have done.
Bill
In my opinion and I am sure a few others you have contributed to chess over all more than some people realize. The name of the game is computer chess. It is one thing to create a program to play chess, another to make it play superior chess but then to have someone point out some of the weakness' of the majority of the programs out there can only lead to better programming in the long run. You anti-chess or whom ever first coined the term is like you are saying making chess programmers think a little harded and hopefully some day lead to some kind of 'solved' situation.
Once again I think most of the people here should be proud of the work that you have done.
Bill
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Re: Is it possible beat to Rybka in a bullet game ? Yes. It
would seem to me that one out of 10 is closer to the truth than one out of 100-200George Tsavdaris wrote:Sorry but this time you are wrong.bob wrote:I would bet closer to 1 out of 10, maybe even a bit better than that.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:1-2 games out of 200 is my prediction....Ovyron wrote:Have you seen videos on youtube about bullet games? These people move their hands very fast, so playing that fast is a matter of practice. Also, Father is very experienced in reaching these closed positions, so it's a matter of hit or miss (I assume he lost lots of games before playing this one, that's the only one we get to see.)George Tsavdaris wrote:Of course Pablo's play was impressive for 2 reasons. He managed to play a 1 minute game so good and he played a game so good creating such a nice closed position.
I have a large database with playchess games that contains his games from a period of around 1-2 years i think, and the ratio is about 1:47 of non-loses:loses for Pablo(Father).
I will try to search where i have this database because the above is from memory and find the exact statistics and games.....
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ok. almost 6%. Which means 6 wins in 100 games, or 12 draws in 100 games, or some combination thereof. which is dead on with my one in ten suggestion...
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William,
For any extrange reason, what looks in past tense as a simple liitle obstacle, easy to destroy(Antichess), probably is a really hard wall for the computer science.
For any other extrange reason, the promotion of this idea, has had as leaders(plural), a NIP (not important person) in the chess wordlife.
Probably this combination, W+NIP=VIM, has got to everybody a very important message; as a term of meditation: Where is the limit of computers and human beings?.
In my humbble opinion, the more hight construction that our spirit can build is an act of love. Chess machines are or can be acts of love, but engines by itself never will be having our capacity of love or produce hate(what a bad and dark way) either.
As I said. If Rybka 3 beat of all to me, then I will be ending my antichess games. But what too happy I am going to be, of have done a little contribution to the chess develoment.Then others will be putting in serious troubles to the ribka 3 engine. I am sure about that. Man versus Machines have not ended of all.
Everybody that want to understant about art of war, must understand and pay many atention and concentration about machines phicology. And if human being rase take that as a joke, then that them be prepareted to a fiere battle, between Robots and Humans, with a sad desadvantage tor them.
With best respect,
Pablo
For any extrange reason, what looks in past tense as a simple liitle obstacle, easy to destroy(Antichess), probably is a really hard wall for the computer science.
For any other extrange reason, the promotion of this idea, has had as leaders(plural), a NIP (not important person) in the chess wordlife.
Probably this combination, W+NIP=VIM, has got to everybody a very important message; as a term of meditation: Where is the limit of computers and human beings?.
In my humbble opinion, the more hight construction that our spirit can build is an act of love. Chess machines are or can be acts of love, but engines by itself never will be having our capacity of love or produce hate(what a bad and dark way) either.
As I said. If Rybka 3 beat of all to me, then I will be ending my antichess games. But what too happy I am going to be, of have done a little contribution to the chess develoment.Then others will be putting in serious troubles to the ribka 3 engine. I am sure about that. Man versus Machines have not ended of all.
Everybody that want to understant about art of war, must understand and pay many atention and concentration about machines phicology. And if human being rase take that as a joke, then that them be prepareted to a fiere battle, between Robots and Humans, with a sad desadvantage tor them.
With best respect,
Pablo
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Nimzovik
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FATHER STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!!!!! 
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Yeah,he's back with even bigger "closed" weaponsNimzovik wrote:FATHER STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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No, no 12 draws out of 100, since as i've said there were many wins that contribute to this score, in fact most 25 points came from wins.bob wrote:ok. almost 6%. Which means 6 wins in 100 games, or 12 draws in 100 games, or some combination thereof. which is dead on with my one in ten suggestion...
And as i've said ALL these wins were wins on time due to the Chessbase GUI lag/latency bug.
If he played a normal match not on the Playchess to have this bug, then he would not win these matches, and as i've said he would lose most of them since the ending positions were almost lost for him, while the other non-lost would be draws.
So his 5.6% percentage would drop significantly.
After his son's birth they've asked him:
"Is it a boy or girl?"
YES! He replied.....
"Is it a boy or girl?"
YES! He replied.....
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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....to about 1% as i predictedGeorge Tsavdaris wrote:No, no 12 draws out of 100, since as i've said there were many wins that contribute to this score, in fact most 25 points came from wins.bob wrote:ok. almost 6%. Which means 6 wins in 100 games, or 12 draws in 100 games, or some combination thereof. which is dead on with my one in ten suggestion...
And as i've said ALL these wins were wins on time due to the Chessbase GUI lag/latency bug.
If he played a normal match not on the Playchess to have this bug, then he would not win these matches, and as i've said he would lose most of them since the ending positions were almost lost for him, while the other non-lost would be draws.
So his 5.6% percentage would drop significantly.
I am shocked about the fact that most people don't understand that Pablo's games are totaly based on the ChessBase GUI bug and still.....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Nimzovik
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Once again u blatantly miss the issue. The win by time is NOT the issue. Sheeeesh. The blocked positions of Pablos's games is THE issue here.
It highlights a certain fallacy of computer chess . Research some of Robert Hyatts posts. Your fanaticism is unnerving.