Crimson 1.1 available

[Graham Banks]

Norm, keep on working on your clone.
If Tord is really the original author, keep him informed what you are doing. It is only the problem between you two. Keep the "mob" far from it.

What a sick and sad attitude. No wonder there are illegal clones around when people like you encourage them. You should be ashamed!

[Sylwy]

Norm, keep on working on your clone.
If Tord is really the original author, keep him informed what you are doing. It is only the problem between you two. Keep the "mob" far from it.

What a sick and sad attitude. No wonder there are illegal clones around when people like you encourage them. You should be ashamed!

After the "Xyclops" affair Norman Schmidt ( a sort of Ben Lau cousin ) was very active/aggressive on this forum.
Now a new clone - Crimson ! Seems this guy has a big problem !
It's a sort of computer chess terrorist !



Regards,
Silvian

[kranium]

Norm, keep on working on your clone.
If Tord is really the original author, keep him informed what you are doing. It is only the problem between you two. Keep the "mob" far from it.

What a sick and sad attitude. No wonder there are illegal clones around when people like you encourage them. You should be ashamed!

a small part of the executable for Rybka 1.0 was decompiled and many many dozens of lines of code were found to match Fruit 2.1 almost excatly...

the chess engine community tyrned a blind eye and said 'no problem'...

it it the chess engine community itself that did the most promote 'illegal' clones by not acting on this clear and compelling evidence that Rybka 1.0 was illegitimate derivative of Fruit 2.1.

http://www.chesslogik.com/controversies/

[F. Bluemers]

Norm, keep on working on your clone.
If Tord is really the original author, keep him informed what you are doing. It is only the problem between you two. Keep the "mob" far from it.

What a sick and sad attitude. No wonder there are illegal clones around when people like you encourage them. You should be ashamed!

a small part of the executable for Rybka 1.0 was decompiled and many many dozens of lines of code were found to match Fruit 2.1 almost excatly...

the chess engine community tyrned a blind eye and said 'no problem'...

it it the chess engine community itself that did the most promote 'illegal' clones by not acting on this clear and compelling evidence that Rybka 1.0 was illegitimate derivative of Fruit 2.1.

http://www.chesslogik.com/controversies/

Yes
Its ok
Others do it
So can you

[Henrik Dinesen]

Norm, keep on working on your clone.
If Tord is really the original author, keep him informed what you are doing. It is only the problem between you two. Keep the "mob" far from it.

What a sick and sad attitude. No wonder there are illegal clones around when people like you encourage them. You should be ashamed!

a small part of the executable for Rybka 1.0 was decompiled and many many dozens of lines of code were found to match Fruit 2.1 almost excatly...

the chess engine community tyrned a blind eye and said 'no problem'...

it it the chess engine community itself that did the most promote 'illegal' clones by not acting on this clear and compelling evidence that Rybka 1.0 was illegitimate derivative of Fruit 2.1.

http://www.chesslogik.com/controversies/

Is that all you can come up with ?

[Graham Banks]

a small part of the executable for Rybka 1.0 was decompiled and many many dozens of lines of code were found to match Fruit 2.1 almost excatly...

the chess engine community tyrned a blind eye and said 'no problem'...

it it the chess engine community itself that did the most promote 'illegal' clones by not acting on this clear and compelling evidence that Rybka 1.0 was illegitimate derivative of Fruit 2.1.

http://www.chesslogik.com/controversies/

Norman - why didn't you just develop your own original engine as you said you would? You obviously have the necessary skills.

[Christopher Conkie]

Norman - why didn't you just develop your own original engine as you said you would? You obviously have the necessary skills.

No.....it's not obvious at all that he has the skills. In fact the reverse is true.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Norman - why didn't you just develop your own original engine as you said you would? You obviously have the necessary skills.

No.....it's not obvious at all that he has the skills. In fact the reverse is true.

Agreed,and after this fiesta I am afraid that no one will take him seriously anymore....
BTW,Christopher,is the similarity with Tord's Viper a big one,I mean is Crimson almost identical with it
Mayba Norm changed or let's say tuned another line here and there to make it stronger....
Thanks again regards,
Dr.D

[Christopher Conkie]

Norman - why didn't you just develop your own original engine as you said you would? You obviously have the necessary skills.

No.....it's not obvious at all that he has the skills. In fact the reverse is true.

Agreed,and after this fiesta I am afraid that no one will take him seriously anymore....
BTW,Christopher,is the similarity with Tord's Viper a big one,I mean is Crimson almost identical with it
Mayba Norm changed or let's say tuned another line here and there to make it stronger....
Thanks again regards,
Dr.D

He started disabling things without taking them all away....leaving remnants of what it was, some of which even still work (FRC).

I won't tell you much, but it is obvious that Crimson was once SMP for example. Now it is set to just one thread.

If I were to give you a percentage of how much Crimson is Viper, I would have to say it's over 97%. It's just rearranged and has had bits chopped out.

Christopher

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Norman - why didn't you just develop your own original engine as you said you would? You obviously have the necessary skills.

No.....it's not obvious at all that he has the skills. In fact the reverse is true.

Agreed,and after this fiesta I am afraid that no one will take him seriously anymore....
BTW,Christopher,is the similarity with Tord's Viper a big one,I mean is Crimson almost identical with it
Mayba Norm changed or let's say tuned another line here and there to make it stronger....
Thanks again regards,
Dr.D

He started disabling things without taking them all away....leaving remnants of what it was, some of which even still work (FRC).

I won't tell you much, but it is obvious that Crimson was once SMP for example. Now it is set to just one thread.

If I were to give you a percentage of how much Crimson is Viper, I would have to say it's over 97%. It's just rearranged and has had bits chopped out.

Christopher

Thanks,all clear now
Dr.D