Albert Silver wrote:
Of course. My mistake. How could I not realize that 10 games plus 20 games equals 150 games which in turn equates to thousands of games. You got me.
For me, Test 1 (30 games) plus Test 2 (120 games) equals 150 games. But I accept that your addition gives you a different result. No problem.
Please smile and enjoy computer chess, Albert.
Tom.
Actually, I did miscount for Firebird, it was only 20 games. DR4 played 30 games against Houdini, but only 20 against FB in your test. 20 games or 30 seem a very small amount to be making blanket judgments on tuning and strength.
In my suite (100 games), while testing time management settings, I had a 1+0 match between FB and DR4 start with 68% in favor of DR4 after the first 50 games. However, the next 50 games, it actually lost by 1%, so that the final result was only 56%, which was a perfectly usual result.
As to Houdini, it bears mentioning I have tested it and it has lost all its matches, albeit not by any large scores, consistently better than FB.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
Games in 4 min + 2
Book = HSMasterbook 2.0
Gui: Fritz 12 DR4 and Fire 1.31 using 4 cores.Houdini using only two cores.
Quad 2,67 Mz.
2010-06DeepRybka4b 2010
Deep Rybka 4 w32 - Houdini w32 2_CPU 21.5 - 18.5 +8/=27/-5 53.75%
Deep Rybka 4 w32 - Fire 1.31 w32KLO 21.5 - 18.5 +10/=23/-7 53.75%
I hope the results for Fire will be very different with Robbo or TripleBases.
Not enough games yet, but I have no doubt that Houdini is today the best engine with one or two cores. This result against DR4 is simply impressive, giving it the huge advantage of double number of cores used.
In my ongoing tournament on 2 core at 5'5" time control Houdini have beaten DR4 4 times out of 7 games played so far. But total number of points they get is very close. On the other hand my tourney has a surprise leader out of 215/360 games. It's Ivanhoe t63mini10. Will post results and games when it's done.
Just a question btw, could Houdini and Ivanhoe Mini's strength be coming from them not having MV yet? Just a thought...
Taner Altinsoy wrote:In my ongoing tournament on 2 core at 5'5" time control Houdini have beaten DR4 4 times out of 7 games played so far. But total number of points they get is very close. On the other hand my tourney has a surprise leader out of 215/360 games. It's Ivanhoe t63mini10. Will post results and games when it's done.
Just a question btw, could Houdini and Ivanhoe Mini's strength be coming from them not having MV yet? Just a thought...
Taner Altinsoy
The difference in strength would be explainable if you have multi-variations turned on for one engine and not for the others. If you have it turned off for all engines, then it is no explanation (unless there is a bug in implementation causing bad behavior).
Eduard,
Is it possible play against Houdini? In man versus machine. Is it legal?. If it is not a problem for me I would like to play the best software on Earth.
Thx,
Pablo I Restrepo
Father playchess.com user
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
Eduard,
Is it possible play against Houdini? In man versus machine. Is it legal?. If it is not a problem for me I would like to play the best software on Earth.
Thx,
Pablo I Restrepo
Father playchess.com user
Houdini 1.01 or Ivanhoe_63_Mod12i will give you a
good game Pablo.