my links provide evidence that Houdini started as Robbolito 0.09...Peter Skinner wrote:In this thread: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 67&t=41172kranium wrote: +1
Agreed..
The World Champion should normally be the strongest program available...
this year = Houdini
and towards that goal, the tournament should be 'open' format, not a hand-picked selection of 'approved' programs...
apparently the organizers can 'divine' which programs are 'clean' and which are not?
(like they knew the last 5 years w/ Rybka?)
the fact that Houdini is excluded is a travesty...
all due to the CCC establishment erroneously, unfairly, and without any evidence, labeling and blacklisting Ippolit engines as 'the clones'...
what a farce this has become.
referring to what M. Hull posted:
the ippolit source code is now known 'clean', thus competing against it is not akin to competing against a 'doped' athlete...they analogy is ridiculous.
You give links providing evidence that Houdini is a clone, then you come in this thread and admonish the CCC establishment for _not_ allowing it to play?
Are you actually arguing both sides purely to troll?
Peter
i say nothing about 'clone'...those are you words, your value judgement, your perception.
i prefer the term 'derivative' ....as i've stated many times.
but, even if Houdini is a dirty 'clone' as you may characterize it...
this fact hasn't prevented the major testing groups from testing it?
this fact hasn't prevented it from being sold, or from being embraced by corporate concerns like ChessOk, etc...
Ippolit is clean, and Houdini is the strongest program on the planet...
yes, he has been completely disingenuous concerning it's origins, and has violated the GPL.
but, just how does the CC community plan to deal with it?
by banning him from the WCCC?