FIDE World Chess Championship thread

[kgburcham]

And another thing. just say for example that these two Super Duper GM would draw for the remaining games in 16 moves or less. Then there goes the sponsor money moving over to that stupid redneck Nascar racing and who in the hell wants to watch that fat Tony Stewart go round and round for five hours? Or maybe the sponsors would move over to the UFC. Now who would want to watch George St. Pierre defeat an opponent with a flying armbar. so lets play the games out for entertainment, and satisfy the sponsors and fans.
kgburcham

Many here have orgasms over clone wars so what is wrong with a GM draw or 2?

Some of those orgasms over clone wars are some of the highest rated games in chess history, and more 3000elo games in the future will be played by programs other than 100% original code programs, if there is such a thing.
Nothing wrong with a hard fought draw but 16 moves is borderline theft.
kgburcham

So nothing wrong with toilet breaks then in your opinion?

check the ears for foreign objects and a thorough shoe inspection
kgburcham

[IGarcia]

Sofia rules were in effect in this match last I checked.

Also, I can't say that I'm pleased with game 1 but I'm even less pleased with the whining of patzers. It's only the first game of the match and the first draw and you want to implement some idiotic system with penalties for mistakes and draws. Give me a freaking break.

+1. Well said.

Messi earned 57 millions only in sponsors last years, Tiger woods more than 60 millons, great numbers for Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, and many NBA players, list is very long.

This are the best chess players in world. Whats the problem about earning some good money in a 12 game match? They have to train, travel, pay helpers and seconds.

I see too many envy on comments.

Where do you see this too mnay envy

As a specialist I earn enough money to drive a decent car and afford a decent lifestyle....

We are annoyed by the quality of the first game,not by it's result....

To shuffle your queen like a drunk dancer before you even start the game is a shame for a world champion.....

Say whatever you want but it is what it is....
Dr.D

I didnt quote correct, maybe thats why you don't see envy.

We have some post asking to pay LESS if they draw, or writing they earn too much per game, as other commests. Stoopid as if you start saying the football (soccer for some of you) has to earn based on goals.

Is obvious kgburcham has some sort of problem with money, asking to engines be more expensive so only few (included him) can buy it, now telling how much has to earn top GM in a world championship.

Then the envy comes because some say top GM cant play as top computers, and this is respectful per se. And I beat on some of the ones writing such things can't play chess at all without computer assistance. There is the envy, towards those can play close to top computers.

WHo they think they are to say how much was to own this GM?

And income is related to business around event. Thats why NBA and football players earn more. In this WCC there is much attention, much more than before. And I do think they earn too little.

check this list: http://espn.go.com/golf/moneylist/_/year/2013
Fischer wouldn't play a WCC (today) for less than _____?

[Hood]

I suspect that Anand's main strategy for this match is to drag Carlsen to the tiebreaks with faster time controls where he is obviously superior....

Just a crazy thought before I hit the hay regards,
Dr.D

Anands strategy is not to loose. If you do not play you do not loose
Indian sponsors are paying for that. It looks like Anand is expected to play.

Carlsen can make short draws win 1 or 2 games and say goodbye. Leaving with title and money.

[kgburcham]

I suspect that Anand's main strategy for this match is to drag Carlsen to the tiebreaks with faster time controls where he is obviously superior....

Just a crazy thought before I hit the hay regards,
Dr.D

Anands strategy is not to loose. If you do not play you do not loose
Indian sponsors are paying for that. It looks like Anand is expected to play.

Carlsen can make short draws win 1 or 2 games and say goodbye. Leaving with title and money.

weak humans scared to death of blunders. too scared to go all out. too scared to give it all they have. You cant blame them, these two humans know they can make an extreme mistake any move and blow the game so it seems they will take the easy way out for now.
kgburcham

[Kyodai]

weak humans scared to death of blunders. too scared to go all out. too scared to give it all they have. You cant blame them, these two humans know they can make an extreme mistake any move and blow the game so it seems they will take the easy way out for now.
kgburcham[/quote]


Yes, it's much more interesting to follow chess from players with
a total different personality - like Morozevich, Ivanchuk and Nakamura

[Lion]

Did you know there is a rule for this match that they can not make a draw proposition before black move 30 ?

What can you do if they repeat the moves to infinity ? we would still be in first game right now...... or maybe with a gun pointed at Magnus or Anand asking them to play an inferior move ?

rgds

[kgburcham]

weak humans scared to death of blunders. too scared to go all out. too scared to give it all they have. You cant blame them, these two humans know they can make an extreme mistake any move and blow the game so it seems they will take the easy way out for now.
kgburcham

Yes, it's much more interesting to follow chess from players with
a total different personality - like Morozevich, Ivanchuk and Nakamura

since these guys have such big pc hardware at their disposal and are using the top 4 chess computer programs to analyze openings and have been searching for novelties for months with several top seconds then I assume they have found at least two or three that the other doesn't know.
I am looking forward to unknown novelties. We have to get them in the unknown. so maybe a good game tomorrow, so maybe the humans will show us they can still play an exciting game under pressure. I hate to think that the only exciting games left are from a cold mad disrespectful manmade machine.
kgburcham

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I suspect that Anand's main strategy for this match is to drag Carlsen to the tiebreaks with faster time controls where he is obviously superior....

Just a crazy thought before I hit the hay regards,
Dr.D

Good point. Also they will play for draw until one has an advantage and then hopefully we will see some good chess play.

Happy Dreams.

Gerold.

Thanks my good friend
Dr.D

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Sofia rules were in effect in this match last I checked.

Also, I can't say that I'm pleased with game 1 but I'm even less pleased with the whining of patzers. It's only the first game of the match and the first draw and you want to implement some idiotic system with penalties for mistakes and draws. Give me a freaking break.

+1. Well said.

Messi earned 57 millions only in sponsors last years, Tiger woods more than 60 millons, great numbers for Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, and many NBA players, list is very long.

This are the best chess players in world. Whats the problem about earning some good money in a 12 game match? They have to train, travel, pay helpers and seconds.

I see too many envy on comments.

Where do you see this too mnay envy

As a specialist I earn enough money to drive a decent car and afford a decent lifestyle....

We are annoyed by the quality of the first game,not by it's result....

To shuffle your queen like a drunk dancer before you even start the game is a shame for a world champion.....

Say whatever you want but it is what it is....
Dr.D

yes good reply Dr., but I don't know what he means by "I see too many envy on comments".
kgburcham

He means that we,the patzers,envy Anand & Carlsen for the amount of money they are getting for this humble,thus far,edition of WCC....

Or maybe he thinks that we envy them for their chess performnce so far unless he has a serious brain damage
Cheers,
Dr.D

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Sofia rules were in effect in this match last I checked.

Also, I can't say that I'm pleased with game 1 but I'm even less pleased with the whining of patzers. It's only the first game of the match and the first draw and you want to implement some idiotic system with penalties for mistakes and draws. Give me a freaking break.

I play and defeat computer chess enteties ranked above the 2900 Elo barrier in the popular rating list like CCRL,GEGT,etc.

These chess enteties are running on a very fast overclocked modern hardware,I don't take back moves and I turn off the thinking lineso the engine....

I stear my games toward well known opening lines like the Nimzovitch-Larsen Attack,the Old Indian Defence,etc.

And I am not even an officially rated player....

What you call a first draw is a straight forward mockery of the chess community world wide....

Penalties for mistakes is maybe a little bit over the edge but getting their fund deducted everytime they make an idiotic draw like the one in question is actually a brilliant idea that will prevent the WCC from becoming an overall idiotic event....

You have a nice day Sir....
Dr.D

What are they waiting for? This is the World Championship of chess! You should be trying to attain your victory and going for it all the way. Carlsen is almost a 100 elo points stronger and should be trying to get it all but both are lackadaisical.

That's exactly what I am trying to say and then comes an expert down the road waving the patzer flag at me and Kim and saying that it's all about making money and it doesn't matter if it's a first grader quality 16 moves chess game....

It doesn't matter at all,after all it's only a WCC....
Give me a freaking freaky break my friend regards,
Dr.D

And another thing. just say for example that these two Super Duper GM would draw for the remaining games in 16 moves or less. Then there goes the sponsor money moving over to that stupid redneck Nascar racing and who in the hell wants to watch that fat Tony Stewart go round and round for five hours? Or maybe the sponsors would move over to the UFC. Now who would want to watch George St. Pierre defeat an opponent with a flying armbar. so lets play the games out for entertainment, and satisfy the sponsors and fans.
kgburcham

Exactly....
Dr.D