Sting-sf-5 release

Paloma · Post by **Paloma** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:22 pm

Same behaviour after switching to 2 cores:

[d]rk6/p1p5/Bp2p3/1P6/q2B1P2/4K3/8/8 b - - 0 1
Hangs now for more as 2 hours on Depth 30 and 2555 kN/s,
depth 30 was reached at approximately 1 min.

Hashtables was on both examples 256 MB, but that should not the reason.
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Paloma · Post by **Paloma** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:36 pm

> (more than 4 hours, reaches Depth 29 in 15 min.)

I mean of course approximately 1,5 min.

zullil · Post by **zullil** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:45 am

lech wrote: At the end my liked funny position for engines. I set it myself a few years ago.
[d]rk6/p1p5/Bp2p3/1P6/q2B1P2/4K3/8/8 b - - to win it needs to sacrifice Queen (now or later) for one of white Bishops ONLY (to make Rook a8 free and to realize passed pawns).

The latest SF can solve this, even without endgame tables. But look how long it takes for the engine to resolve the mate:

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info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 875 lowerbound nodes 1001783837 nps 27134641 hashfull 88 tbhits 0 time 36919 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 currmove a4a1 currmovenumber 7
info depth 61 currmove c7c5 currmovenumber 10
info depth 61 currmove a4b4 currmovenumber 11
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 840 upperbound nodes 1010691989 nps 27052783 hashfull 90 tbhits 0 time 37360 pv a4b3 e3f2
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 893 lowerbound nodes 1242790476 nps 27829690 hashfull 138 tbhits 0 time 44657 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 1050 lowerbound nodes 1348515238 nps 28145667 hashfull 152 tbhits 0 time 47912 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 1286 lowerbound nodes 1562523154 nps 28640195 hashfull 194 tbhits 0 time 54557 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 1640 lowerbound nodes 2080307012 nps 30568924 hashfull 302 tbhits 0 time 68053 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 2171 lowerbound nodes 2441872697 nps 31291617 hashfull 357 tbhits 0 time 78036 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 2967 lowerbound nodes 2618172054 nps 31699300 hashfull 370 tbhits 0 time 82594 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 4160 lowerbound nodes 2876750375 nps 32120570 hashfull 400 tbhits 0 time 89561 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 5950 lowerbound nodes 3224186167 nps 32583993 hashfull 452 tbhits 0 time 98950 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 8635 lowerbound nodes 3378684015 nps 32643028 hashfull 468 tbhits 0 time 103504 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 currmove a4a1 currmovenumber 4
info depth 61 currmove a4b4 currmovenumber 8
info depth 61 currmove a4b5 currmovenumber 15
info depth 61 seldepth 100 multipv 1 score cp 6621 upperbound nodes 25170299103 nps 41572328 hashfull 974 tbhits 0 time 605458 pv a4b3 e3f2
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 seldepth 110 multipv 1 score cp 9512 lowerbound nodes 26158563647 nps 41454084 hashfull 985 tbhits 0 time 631025 pv a4b3
info depth 61 currmove a4b3 currmovenumber 1
info depth 61 currmove c7c5 currmovenumber 3
info depth 61 currmove a4a3 currmovenumber 7
info depth 61 seldepth 110 multipv 1 score mate 22 nodes 183285141980 nps 44169255 hashfull 999 tbhits 0 time 4149609 pv a4b3 e3e2 b3c2 e2e3 c2c1 e3f3 c1d1 f3e3 d1e1 e3d3 c7c5 d4e5 e1e5 f4e5 b8c7 d3c3 a8d8 c3b3 d8d5 b3b2 d5e5 b2a1 e5d5 a1a2 e6e5 a2b2 e5e4 b2b3 e4e3 b3c4 d5d4 c4b3 e3e2 a6b7 c7b7 b3b2 d4d2 b2c3 e2e1q c3b3 e1e3 b3c4 d2d4

lech · Post by **lech** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:53 am

[d]rk6/p1p5/Bp2p3/1P6/q2B1P2/4K3/8/8 b - -
Sting (other engines too) can "stop" or "hang" but rather works by very long time on higher depths and is allive. "Maybe" it is a next bug, but I can't see any negative question in this position.

I am very happy that Stockfish can solve the above position. It was expected by me.
And why not this very similar one?
[d]8/5pKN/5Pp1/5kP1/8/Bb6/8/7q b - - bm again Black should sacrifice Queen for Pawn g5 and Knigth h7 and realize passed Pawn g6.

BTW "the latest" Stockfish can solve all positions.

zullil · Post by **zullil** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:13 pm

lech wrote: BTW "the latest" Stockfish can solve all positions.

No, only the "lastest" Stockfish can do that.

Lyudmil Tsvetkov · Post by **Lyudmil Tsvetkov** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:46 pm

zullil wrote:
Lanzo wrote: Stockfish solves only about 134/250 of the problems given one minute to think in the Arasan testsuite,
This is completely incorrect, unless you have crippled Stockfish or are running it on an abacus.

I think you should know by now Lanzo Nazaire and Jose Miguel Planton from the SF forum are one and the same person.

I noticed Marc Darius has just registered...Next on the list - Julius Caesar.

Very much sounds to me like a propaganda machine, very well known from totalitarian regimes: spreading rumours and trying to make those rumours reality.

zullil · Post by **zullil** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:52 pm

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: I think you should know by now Lanzo Nazaire and Jose Miguel Planton from the SF forum are one and the same person.

I don't think this is true. But for all you I know, I might be a border collie.

zullil · Post by **zullil** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:59 pm

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: I noticed Marc Darius has just registered...Next on the list - Julius Caesar.

No Julius Caesar. Marc Darius was followed by Eric Robinson and Ginter Zyllich.

BBauer · Post by **BBauer** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:08 pm

Thank you for posting your nice positions.
I tried the last one. It took my stockfish 25 seconds at depth 39+ to play
Qxh7. Ok its my "latest" stockfish. By the way, I assume that many users have their own customized version.
[D]8/5pKN/5Pp1/5kP1/8/Bb6/8/7q b - - 0 1
Kind regards
Bernhard

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FEN&#58; 8/5pKN/5Pp1/5kP1/8/Bb6/8/7q b - - 0 1

St-mod-15-04-03&#58;
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 19/24	00&#58;00	 239k	1.345k	+6,46	Dh1-d5 La3-b4 Dd5-e5 Lb4-d2 Lb3-e6 Ld2-b4 Kf5-g4 Lb4-d2 Le6-a2 Ld2-b4 La2-c4 Lb4-d2 Lc4-e6 Ld2-b4 Le6-a2 Lb4-d2 De5-c5 Ld2-e1 La2-c4 Le1-c3 Lc4-b3 Lc3-d2 Lb3-e6
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 31/32	00&#58;01	 3.602k	2.801k	+6,44	Dh1-d5 La3-b4 Dd5-e5 Lb4-d2 De5-d4 Ld2-e1 Lb3-d5 Le1-a5 Ld5-e4 La5-e1 Dd4-c5 Le1-d2 Le4-d5 Ld2-e1 Ld5-e6 Le1-g3 Le6-b3 Lg3-e1 Dc5-d4 Le1-a5 Dd4-a7 La5-c3 Da7-e3 Lc3-b4 Lb3-c4 Lb4-d6 Lc4-e6 Ld6-b4 De3-d4 Lb4-e1 Dd4-e4 Le1-c3
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 38/42-	00&#58;17	 75.350k	4.194k	+6,50	Dh1-c6 La3-b4
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 39/46+	00&#58;25	 111.296k	4.336k	+6,60	Dh1xh7+
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Lyudmil Tsvetkov · Post by **Lyudmil Tsvetkov** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:16 pm

zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: I think you should know by now Lanzo Nazaire and Jose Miguel Planton from the SF forum are one and the same person.
I don't think this is true. But for all you I know, I might be a border collie.

Well, look at the names: Jose Miguel Planton, all Spanish-speaking users on this forum have names like Miguel Ballicora, Jose Velasco, Jose Queralto, etc. Normal-sounding names. But I think, even if someone posts on fishcooking under the name of Jose Miguel Tiburon or Jose Miguel Cojon, they will pay no attention.

And also, look what they post about - no topic, no question, nothing, just some prepared statement that they assume is true and then do not care about the discussion at all, just emphasizing time and again their point. Meaning, they have no point, and would just like to distract people's attention.

Same here: Lanzo Nazaire speaks excellent English for an Italian, I would say excellent native English, the only point is is this native English American, Australian or otherwise.

Each and every comment and post does not follow at all the discussion, just reiterates the intial statement made. Meaning, this is an artificial conversation, prearranged and aiming at specific goals.

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