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mcostalba
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Re: Awful paper)

Post by mcostalba »

Sergei S. Markoff wrote: I'm disagree. Most strong programs are tuned using huge position/games datasets, eval function is complicated and has a lot of params, at least several thousands.
In other hand a neural network is nothing more then hierarchy of logistic (or other activation) functions. I don't see any significant difference, wouldn't you?..
In the past both features and their parameters where handcrafted.

With the introduction of powerful testing frameworks, the feature parameters started to be machine tuned: this has been a big improvement.

Now Giraffe has proved that is possible to go to the next level: even the features themselve can be automatically extracted out of row data.

I think Giraffe is the first experiment to really prove this is possible, other experiments that failed to produce a good working engine are to be ignored (only successful results make experiment interesting for me; this heuristic allows to filter a lot of garbage).

Differently from parameter auto-tuning, the NN approach has still to prove that is stronger than traditional one. IMO this is a difficult task to win because chess is intrinsically a game more suited for computers than for humans (I don't know about "go").