How does perform SF-NNUE vs Lc0 ?

[Vinvin]

I saw very few matches between this 2 engines.

Conditions like :
3min+2sec
200 games
book : short lines (where Lc0 was the best over A/B engines)

RTX 2080 Ti for Lc0
16 cores for SF-NNUE (latest exe + latest NN file)

Could someone run a match like this ?

Thanks,
Vincent

I can run this test. I have the exact hardware. This will be my next test. So do you want it to play the offical Stockfish NNUE with NNUE enabled? If no answer this is what will be played.

Sure ! The latest executable with the latest NN file.
The opening book could be : NoomenShortLinesTestsuite.pgn (100 positions)
or the openings use for the Match AlphaZero vs SF8 (100 positions) : https://www.chess.com/computer-chess-ch ... tion-match
Thanks !

[mwyoung]

I saw very few matches between this 2 engines.

Conditions like :
3min+2sec
200 games
book : short lines (where Lc0 was the best over A/B engines)

RTX 2080 Ti for Lc0
16 cores for SF-NNUE (latest exe + latest NN file)

Could someone run a match like this ?

Thanks,
Vincent

I can run this test. I have the exact hardware. This will be my next test. So do you want it to play the offical Stockfish NNUE with NNUE enabled? If no answer this is what will be played.

Sure ! The latest executable with the latest NN file.
Thanks !

That is what is running now! Enjoy!

Live Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISrbnpZ1wBo

[Vinvin]

After 94 games, SF-NNUE is clearly leading.
Score in 4 different formats :
53-41
+15;=78;-1
57.4%
+52 Elo

SF-NNUE, the new God of chess.

[zullil]

After 94 games, SF-NNUE is clearly leading.
Score in 4 different formats :
53-41
+15;=78;-1
57.4%
+52 Elo

SF-NNUE, the new God of chess.

What exactly is Stockfish+NNUE 130820? It's hard to know what binaries folks are actually running at this point. From where was this binary (or its source) actually downloaded?

[Laskos]

After 94 games, SF-NNUE is clearly leading.
Score in 4 different formats :
53-41
+15;=78;-1
57.4%
+52 Elo

SF-NNUE, the new God of chess.

What exactly is Stockfish+NNUE 130820? It's hard to know what binaries folks are actually running at this point. From where was this binary (or its source) actually downloaded?

It's stockfish_20081307 binary from yesterday.

[Leo]

Everybody has sold their useless GPUs to gamers now.

I was never tempted to spend hundreds of pound on a high-end GPU and new power supply to run it. Not to mention the electricity bills.

What kind of electric bill do you think you will have? My power is cheap, if I run at full power 24/7 it will cost me less then 30 bucks a month. With a 2950x and a 2080 ti. It cost me more to run my pool pump. That explains CCRL testing.

My natural gas bill is always a lot more then electricity.

[Modern Times]

My natural gas bill is always a lot more then electricity.

Depends on the time of year. In winter yes but in summer when all the gas has to do is provide hot water, electricity bill far exceeds it, i.e. 3 times as much. In Europe electricity is very expensive, whereas in the USA it is much cheaper I hear.

[mwyoung]

After 94 games, SF-NNUE is clearly leading.
Score in 4 different formats :
53-41
+15;=78;-1
57.4%
+52 Elo

SF-NNUE, the new God of chess.

What exactly is Stockfish+NNUE 130820? It's hard to know what binaries folks are actually running at this point. From where was this binary (or its source) actually downloaded?

It's stockfish_20081307 binary from yesterday.

-mwyoung- is known to not change his mind at any cost even in the front of overwhelming evidence that he might do much better. Leave him alone, I never follow his tests, he used to use some 36 threads on 16 core machine, I don't know what other silly things he is doing.

Thanks for contributing to the testing Lasko.

[mwyoung]

Everybody has sold their useless GPUs to gamers now.

I was never tempted to spend hundreds of pound on a high-end GPU and new power supply to run it. Not to mention the electricity bills.

What kind of electric bill do you think you will have? My power is cheap, if I run at full power 24/7 it will cost me less then 30 bucks a month. With a 2950x and a 2080 ti. It cost me more to run my pool pump. That explains CCRL testing.

My natural gas bill is always a lot more then electricity.

That is because you now get your natural gas from Russia. My gas bill is 15 bucks a month.

[MMarco]

After 94 games, SF-NNUE is clearly leading.
Score in 4 different formats :
53-41
+15;=78;-1
57.4%
+52 Elo

SF-NNUE, the new God of chess.

Yes maybe SF-NNUE is the new god, although Lc0 might have done better with LS 15.0 at this time control (instead of SV-4585).