FCP Tourney-2022 ...

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

I added Equinox 3.30 and Cheng 4.41 in my test-tourney.
With time I will add more engines in this test-tourney (more or less League 2 can be build).

During the time September 28th, 2021 - November 02nd, 2021 no updates on my site.
Again, FCP Tourney-2021 will be start November 08th, 2021.

For the moment I am happy that my new AMD system works fine.

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

last two engines for my test-tourney will be add before I made the break.
I will do that in the last evening!

Engine 15: Hannibal 1.7
Engine 16: Topple 0.81

I know, some more can be added ...

iCE, Protector, Texel, pirarucu or FabChess, Amoeba, Mr Bob, Hakkapelitta, Naum ... so many others can play in League 2.

- FCP Tourney 2022 (League 1 with 41 Engines).
- With more time I have interest to build League 2 (41 engines too) with my test-tourney.

I will do that after FCP Tourney-2022.
A new TOP-80 rating list can be produce in 2022!

But at first all is a test-touney and Nov. 08th, 2021 I start with TOP-41 engines my FCP Tourney-2022.

Link to my test-tourney (League 2) can be found in this thread!

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

I am back!

Before I will start FCP Tourney-2022 I will test a new Wasp 4.65 Exp. version, the new Couter 4.0, last Zahak and Velvet (for my test-tourney). Furthermore, Fritz 18 (new Ginkgo) will be available Nov. 18th, 2021.

Possible that Counter, Zahak and Velvet are in TOP-40 and can participant (I don't know).

In additional I have to config a third system for FCP Tourney-2022.
The tourney will run with 32x 4.3Ghz cores, 32 matches to the same time can be still running.
One game need around 1 hour with 40 moves in 14 minutes.

With delay ... I think I can start around Nov. 20th, 2021.

A lot of engines updates I have to added in the tourney.

Later ...
I am working on it.

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

changes:

1. Engine configuration site updated
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conf ... n-2022.htm

2. It seems that Counter, Zahak and Velvet are for the moment not in TOP-40.
Looking in CEGT and made some own tests.

3. List of participate engines:
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_fcp-tourney-2022.htm (News-01):

01. Stockfish 14.1 NN
02. Dragon 2.5.1 by Komodo NN
03. Fire 8 NN
04. Ethereal 13.25 NN
05. SlowChess 2.7 NN
06. RubiChess 2.2 NN
07. Revenge 1.0 NN ... successor of Pedone
08. Koivisto 7.0 NN
09. Nemorino 6.05 NN
10. Igel 3.0.5 NN
11. Lc0 0.28.0 CPU-dnnl NN
12. Seer 2.3.0 NN
13. Arasan 23.01 NN
14. Berserk 7 NN ... 1st time participation
15. Booot 6.5
16. Xiphos 0.6 (3185 Elo)
17. RofChade 2.3 (3162 Elo)
18. Weiss 2.0 ... 1st time participation
19. Minic 3.17 NN ... 1st time participation
20. Defenchess 2.3 (3144 Elo)
21. WB Schooner 2.2 (3132 Elo)
22. Laser 1.7 (3132 Elo)
23. Shredder 13 (3125 Elo)
24. Fritz 17 = Ginkgo (3119 Elo)
25. Clover 2.4 ... 1st time participation
26. Chiron 5
27. Fizbo 2.0 (3100 Elo)
28. Andscacs 0.95.123 (3094 Elo)
29. DanaSah 9.0 NN ... 1st time participation
30. Dark Toga 1.1 NN ... 1st time participation
31. GullChess 3.0 Sy (3072 Elo)
32. Wasp 4.50 (3069 Elo) ... with Contempt = 8
33. Wasp 4.65 NN
34. Halogen 10 NN
35. Marvin 5.1.0 NN
36. Winter 0.95 SzG NN
37. Orion 0.8 NN (3032 Elo)
38. Nirvanachess 2.5 (3027 Elo)
39. Stash 31.0 ... 1st time participation
40. Demolito 2021-10-21
41. Fritz 16 (Rybka) (3018 Elo)

4. I will start in the evening or tomorrow a short test-run.
Wasp 4.65 NN vs. the other 40, 40 moves in 8 minutes, 50 games = 2.000 games, on 26 cores.
I hope that all works fine.

With the idea to hold the date for the tournament start on November 08th, 2021.

5. Engine Updates are possible during November 08th, 2021.

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

I started a test-run (stability test):
Wasp 4.65 NN Modern x64 vs. 40 participate FCP Tourney-2022 engines:

More information can be found on News-08 on my detail site to the tournament:
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_fcp-tourney-2022.htm

Direct URL's (will be updated each 5 minutes, gauntlet with 26x 4.4 Ghz cores).

https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... y-2022.sto (Shredder GUI tourney file)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... -2022.html (Shredder GUI tournament table)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... y-2022.pgn (Shredder GUI PGN file)

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

I had forgotten ...
With 50 Elo more (Wasp 4.50 to Wasp 4.65 NN) Wasp 4.65 NN should make around ~ 42.5 - 43,5%

Elo average (my calculation is around -20 Elo to CEGT) from TOP-40 in my test-run = 3191 Elo or CEGT = 3211 Elo.

In 11 months the average of TOP-40 engines in the World is 100 Elo higher (to my last FCP Tourney-2021).

A lot of more TOP-40 power!!
Not easy for Wasp 4.65 NN to hold place 21 in the World (my last FCP Tourney-2021).

Best
Frank

go Wasp go ...

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

after 481 30-minutes games no crashes.
The complete test-run with Wasp 4.65 NN is running without any problems.
All engines runs wonderful!

That's really fine, nothing to do here.



Good job by all the programmer!

Best
Frank

PS: The performance is +60 - +70 to Wasp 4.50 after 481 games.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

with more hardware power, more possibilities.

With 32 cores and 40 moves in 14 minutes "repeatedly" FCP Tourney-2022 is to fast over.
With 32 cores and 40 moves in 18 minutes "repeatedly" FCP Tourney-2022 need around ~ 60 days.
41000 games x 1:05 hours per game, 4.4Ghz per core, 700 games per day can be play.

Furthermore, 768Mb for hash is super for 40 moves in 18 minutes.

The tournament can be start November 08th, 2021 around 23:45 German time.

In the meantime the test-run for Wasp 4.65 NN is still running.



A lot of hardware power in combination with a lot of engine power.

After the tourney I will make two test-runs ...
Lc0 0.28.0 onednn
Lc0 0.28.0 on RTX-3700

So I can compare three Lc0 versions.

Best
Frank

PS: During the still running tourney I will replaced Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) with Fritz 18 (Ginkgo). Of course I will see the new version from Frank in my tourney. Frank Schneider sent me WB Gromit in times the first Winboard tourneys are still running. WB Zarkov are on other engine at this time we tested in the very earlier Winboard times. John will like it because in the past we are looking most of time in the matches ... WB Zarkov vs. WB Gromit. Oh yes, most of commercials ignore the way of free protocols so many years. Very hard to created a good power against it. History ...

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Sorry to ask why you don't have the ScorpioNN engine in tournaments. I understand that this is a weak engine and does not appear in your tournaments.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Krzysztof,

no, no ...
Scorpio is very strong and interesting but I resign to try a configuration with Shredder GUI.

I think in the field of TOP-40 available engines, Scorpio missed only!

Best
Frank