Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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List updated, four engines added, games download added
Settings page updated, CMC Basic added

CM11 WALL-E x64 T8, CM11 Isildur x64, CM Challenge sel12, CMC Basic
Wall-E T8 won all 25 matches

go here http://descent.at/files/index.html

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Re: Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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Hi Wilhelm,

really a great work you do here !!! (and more _!_of this).
I will add a link in my link selection this evening.

Have many thanks for your work!
Will looking on your site frequently.

Best
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Hi Frank, thanks, your welcome :)
Such a site is new for me and I try to do my best. It's just the beginning :)

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Re: Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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Hi Wilhelm,
is it possible that the setting Aiglos II does not work correct as it is not possible inside CM:
opp=121 opn=123 opb=124 opr=128 opq=136 myp=121 myn=123 myb=124 myr=128 myq=136 mycc=130 mymob=130 myks=170 mypp=121 mypw=100 opcc=100 opmob=100 opks=100 oppp=124 oppw=124 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=20 md=99

When I start it inside Arena I get a message, which not comes with your settings:
2021-12-09 09:19:39,583-->1:cm_parm default\cm_parm opk=650494 tts=134217728 opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=101 mycc=100 mymob=100 myks=100 mypp=100 mypw=100 opcc=100 opmob=100 opks=100 oppp=100 oppw=100 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=16 md=99\ShowThinkingMove=false\n

it seems CM is set to default here?
edited:
but the evaluation is different to default settings here.
2021-12-09 09:28:12,766<--1:info depth 13 score cp 31 time 85860 nodes 86670470 nps 1009439 pv d1g4 g8h8 c2c3 f6f5 c3d4 f5g4 f4e5 c8a6 f1f4 a8d8 e4c5 a6b5 b3c2 a5c6 c5b3

2021-12-09 09:28:32,505<--1:info depth 13 score cp 68 time 66100 nodes 66482137 nps 1005781 pv d1g4 g8h8 c2c3 f6f5 c3d4 f5g4 f4e5 a5b3 a2b3 c8b7 f1f4 b7d5 a1f1 a8c8 e4c5 f7f5 e5f6
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Re: Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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Werner wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:21 am Hi Wilhelm,
is it possible that the setting Aiglos II does not work correct as it is not possible inside CM:
opp=121 opn=123 opb=124 opr=128 opq=136 myp=121 myn=123 myb=124 myr=128 myq=136 mycc=130 mymob=130 myks=170 mypp=121 mypw=100 opcc=100 opmob=100 opks=100 oppp=124 oppw=124 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=20 md=99

When I start it inside Arena I get a message, which not comes with your settings:
2021-12-09 09:19:39,583-->1:cm_parm default\cm_parm opk=650494 tts=134217728 opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=101 mycc=100 mymob=100 myks=100 mypp=100 mypw=100 opcc=100 opmob=100 opks=100 oppp=100 oppw=100 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=16 md=99\ShowThinkingMove=false\n

it seems CM is set to default here?
edited:
but the evaluation is different to default settings here.
2021-12-09 09:28:12,766<--1:info depth 13 score cp 31 time 85860 nodes 86670470 nps 1009439 pv d1g4 g8h8 c2c3 f6f5 c3d4 f5g4 f4e5 c8a6 f1f4 a8d8 e4c5 a6b5 b3c2 a5c6 c5b3

2021-12-09 09:28:32,505<--1:info depth 13 score cp 68 time 66100 nodes 66482137 nps 1005781 pv d1g4 g8h8 c2c3 f6f5 c3d4 f5g4 f4e5 a5b3 a2b3 c8b7 f1f4 b7d5 a1f1 a8c8 e4c5 f7f5 e5f6
Hi Werner,
as far as I know the King engine sets only the faulty para to default and and adopt the others. It dosn't matter if the setting is possible inside CM-GUI. Hmmm...
I use the wb2uci adapter with Aiglos II.
Ok made a quick test

0.000: ** Adapter: Wb2Uci 1.3B22
0.125: C> uci
0.125: C< id name CM11 Aiglos II x64
0.125: C< id author Johan de Koning
0.125: C< option name Hash type spin default 2 min 0 max 1024
0.125: C< option name Ponder type check default true
0.125: C< uciok
0.125: C> setoption name Hash value 64
0.125: C> isready
0.125: S- Starting server: TheKing350_64.exe
1.140: S< xboard
protover 2
1.140: S< new
1.140: S< level 0 5 0
1.140: S< cm_parm default
cm_parm opk=655426 opp=121 opn=123 opb=124 opr=128 opq=136 myp=121 myn=123 myb=124 myr=128 myq=136 cc=130 mob=130 ks=170 mypp=121 oppp=124 pw=124 avd=0 cfd=0 sel=23
1.140: S< post
1.140: S< cm_parm tts=64004096
1.140: S< hard
1.156: S> Error (unknown command): protover
1.156: S> cm_parm default
1.156: S> cm_parm opk=655426 opp=121 opn=123 opb=124 opr=128 opq=136 myp=121 myn=123 myb=124 myr=128 myq=136 cc=130 mob=130 ks=170 mypp=121 oppp=124 pw=124 avd=0 cfd=0 sel=23
1.156: S> cm_parm tts=64004096
3.140: S- Thread priority set to below normal
3.140: C< readyok

The King doesn't make any error message.

The Arena string should look like this, or not? How does your string look like?

cm_parm default\ncm_parm tts=64004096\ncm_parm opk=269214 opp=121 opn=123 opb=124 opr=128 opq=136 myp=121 myn=123 myb=124 myr=128 myq=136 cc=130 mob=130 ks=170 mypp=121 oppp=124 pw=124 avd=0 cfd=0 sel=23

Wait, I start Arena...

Ok, got no error with this string.
Did you set to winbord old?

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Re: Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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Thanks Wilhelm, yes use winboard old and the string I see is
2021-12-09 09:19:39,583-->1:cm_parm default\cm_parm opk=650494 tts=134217728 opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=101 mycc=100 mymob=100 myks=100 mypp=100 mypw=100 opcc=100 opmob=100 opks=100 oppp=100 oppw=100 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=16 md=99\ShowThinkingMove=false\n

looks like default or what? Using Arena 3.0 here.
And this is the eng
[ENGINE]
Name=TheKing 3.5 1CPU Aiglos II
Author=Johan de Koning
Filename=Wb2Uci.exe

[OPTIONS]
Program=TheKing350.exe /t1
InitString=cm_parm default\cm_parm opk=569186 opp=121 opn=123 opb=124 opr=128 opq=136 myp=121 myn=123 myb=124 myr=128 myq=136 mycc=130 mymob=130 myks=170 mypp=121 mypw=100 opcc=100 opmob=100 opks=100 oppp=124 oppw=124 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=20 md=99
HashCommand=cm_parm tts=134217728 ttu=8
InitTime=5
Ponder=true
Logfile=false
Edit=edit
UseSAN=false
Logfile=false
Ownbook=false
Priority=high
AddHintMove=false
Protocol=1
LevelExtend=progressive
Computer=true
Analyze=true
UseUndo=true
Visible=Ponder,Hash
Terminatehard=true

Do I remember correct: the personality editor in CM 11 does not save and I have to use CM 10 for editing?
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Re: Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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shouldn't it be

InitString=cm_parm default\ncm_parm opk=569186 opp=121....

in the options string?

Have you another engine with the same name?
Make a new one with a different name to try it out.
Also I use Arena 3.5.1 and the Kings as UCI

About the personality I can't say at the moment. You got me on the left feet :D
Have not try it for a longer time and I don't know if it works after all the updates.
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Thanks,
so am I - did nothing with Chessmaster for a longer time :-)

and yes - seems I have different engines with the same name, maybe 32bit and 64bit.
So forget the questions -all not easy after such a long time.

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Re: Retro chess - 1000 games test update

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Werner wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:09 pm Thanks,
so am I - did nothing with Chessmaster for a longer time :-)

and yes - seems I have different engines with the same name, maybe 32bit and 64bit.
So forget the questions -all not easy after such a long time.

Werner
No problem Werner :)
I tried the editor and it saved the setting correct. The problem is that the selectivity is max 16. I haven't tried if there is a way to get higher.

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