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Re: Rebel 14

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Thanks Ed — it looks like a fun engine!
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Re: Rebel 14

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Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:53 pm I'm happy with this release but there are a few things I don't understand.

1. Was there ever a Rebel 13? If not, why was it skipped?
Yes and no :D see - http://rebel13.nl/rebel13/rebel%2013.html
Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:53 pm 2. Is what you have done the same what Albert Silver did with Fat Fritz 2, that is, take the search of an other engine and replace its evaluation with your own?
Brrrr.... what a comparison, which engine did Albert use, Fritz, Stockfish? I used my own and the discount is 500%.
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Re: Rebel 14

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Rebel wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:48 pm
Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:53 pm 2. Is what you have done the same what Albert Silver did with Fat Fritz 2, that is, take the search of an other engine and replace its evaluation with your own?
Brrrr.... what a comparison, which engine did Albert use, Fritz, Stockfish? I used my own and the discount is 500%.
What am I missing? Don't you write you have taken Fruit 2.1 as your starting point and later replaced its evaluation with that of Benjamin? I thought the search of Fruit has been kept.
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Re: Rebel 14

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Thank you Ed !!!

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Congrats for the new release. :D

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Re: Rebel 14

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Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:56 pm
Rebel wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:48 pm
Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:53 pm 2. Is what you have done the same what Albert Silver did with Fat Fritz 2, that is, take the search of an other engine and replace its evaluation with your own?
Brrrr.... what a comparison, which engine did Albert use, Fritz, Stockfish? I used my own and the discount is 500%.
What am I missing? Don't you write you have taken Fruit 2.1 as your starting point and later replaced its evaluation with that of Benjamin? I thought the search of Fruit has been kept.
Yep, that's what the page states.
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Re: Rebel 14

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I've received a private message:
Are you a seer? :D
because of the "Is Rebel a derivative?" thread I opened months ago but I meant "ProDeo" and not "Rebel" that time

and guess what, you really made Rebel a derivative engine!

so Rebel 14 is:
Fruit 2.1 +
Pawel Koziol's improved Fruit search +
Chris Witington's nnue probing code +
nnue net based on Benjamin's games

you have not written what trainer was used
you have developed your own trainer? has Chris Wittington developed a trainer? was nodchip/stockfish pytorch trainer used?

if the latter then, just like Andrew would say, "boring"

last time you asked me where was my sense of humor
I hope you have not lost yours :mrgreen:
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Re: Rebel 14

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Does it play FRC?
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Re: Rebel 14

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Wilson wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:14 pm you have not written what trainer was used
you have developed your own trainer? has Chris Wittington developed a trainer? was nodchip/stockfish pytorch trainer used?

if the latter then, just like Andrew would say, "boring"
You’re right. The search and the trainer are boring. The net is the interesting part.
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Re: Rebel 14

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Anyone try this in the Arena gui? I can't get the engine to make a move. Seems to work fine in Fritz 17 though..