http://www.infinitychess.com/Page/Publi ... spx?id=356
Here is a bix Book and and ctg Book with the first move for white and black that are allowed in the test tours
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t2jyj8pnmwfo ... T.zip?dl=1
(Book Options "minimum games 0")
(The WBCET test two tour has been moved from Tuesday 24th May to Thursday 26th May, same start time 1600ST)
NEW CHALLENGE on InfinityChess
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Eduard
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Re: NEW CHALLENGE on InfinityChess
There is no WBEC tour today- 2nd Test tour is on Thursday 26th.
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Eduard
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Re: NEW CHALLENGE on InfinityChess
Thanks!
Here are Sunday's games, with the new rule giving more wins than before.
https://filehorst.de/d/eGrszjBz
Couldn't a similar tournament also be held on PlayChess?
Here are Sunday's games, with the new rule giving more wins than before.
https://filehorst.de/d/eGrszjBz
Couldn't a similar tournament also be held on PlayChess?
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Ozymandias
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Re: NEW CHALLENGE on InfinityChess
There's 121 games in the PGN.
11 "wins".
1 game with 1 move and 4 with wrong moves: 2 with e4 e5, 1 with e4 c5 and 1 with Nf3 d5
Wrong Black Moves.
round 2 e4 c5?? oryza-marsell
round 6 e4-e5?? Name-MR-AJ
round 10 e4-e5?? Seliga-MR_AJ
round 8 Nf3-d5?? KQ-MR_AJ
Frozen no second move played and no response.
round 3 Blitzmaster(frozen)-edward
9 wins after that.
3 loses by Marsell
3 loses by Unreal
2 loses by Olivier
1 loss by desvelemosafrica
20 players didn't lose a single game out of 98.
9 loses from only 4 players, leaving the vast majority with a 100% draws isn't what we were looking for. Do we think even more egregious openings are needed? I know some (Arno included) think that with longer time controls, the weak positions can be better exploited, but this seems contra-factual. Any engine room collection of games will tell you that the longer the time control, the higher the draw rate.
11 "wins".
1 game with 1 move and 4 with wrong moves: 2 with e4 e5, 1 with e4 c5 and 1 with Nf3 d5
Wrong Black Moves.
round 2 e4 c5?? oryza-marsell
round 6 e4-e5?? Name-MR-AJ
round 10 e4-e5?? Seliga-MR_AJ
round 8 Nf3-d5?? KQ-MR_AJ
Frozen no second move played and no response.
round 3 Blitzmaster(frozen)-edward
9 wins after that.
3 loses by Marsell
3 loses by Unreal
2 loses by Olivier
1 loss by desvelemosafrica
20 players didn't lose a single game out of 98.
9 loses from only 4 players, leaving the vast majority with a 100% draws isn't what we were looking for. Do we think even more egregious openings are needed? I know some (Arno included) think that with longer time controls, the weak positions can be better exploited, but this seems contra-factual. Any engine room collection of games will tell you that the longer the time control, the higher the draw rate.
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Re: NEW CHALLENGE on InfinityChess
It seems that winning is not easy. On PlayChess I had often won against Scandinavian in 5m blitz games (played with large opening books).
Today I tested Scandinavian with black twice on InfinityChess, where I only made the one allowed move. With rest, the engine calculated immediately after 1...d5. My opponent played from the book for a very long time. He still couldn't win at level 11min! Apparently you would have to lower the level so that more games are won.
Here are my two games:
[Event "Rapid 11' + 0'', Rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.05.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Opponent, Engine X"]
[Black "Solista, Blue Marlin 15.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B01"]
[WhiteElo "xxxx"]
[BlackElo "2295"]
[PlyCount "173"]
[EventDate "2022.??.??"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. d4 Qxd5 4. Nf3 Bg4 5. Be2 Nc6 6. h3 Bxf3 7. Bxf3 Qd7 8.
O-O O-O-O 9. c3 e5 10. Bg5 Be7 11. Nd2 exd4 12. Qb3 Rhe8 13. Rae1 Nd5 14. Bxe7
Rxe7 15. Rxe7 Ncxe7 16. Ne4 b6 17. Rd1 Nc6 18. Ng3 Kb8 19. cxd4 Qe6 20. a3 Nce7
21. Qc2 f5 22. Qc1 Rd6 23. Nh5 g6 24. Nf4 Nxf4 25. Qxf4 Qf6 26. b4 Nc6 27. d5
Ne5 28. Be2 Nf7 29. a4 Rd7 30. a5 Qe5 31. Qd2 Nd6 32. Qc2 Ne4 33. axb6 cxb6 34.
d6 Qc3 35. Qa2 Rxd6 36. Rxd6 Nxd6 37. Qg8+ Qc8 38. Qxh7 Qe8 39. Bf1 a5 40. bxa5
bxa5 41. Qg7 Qe1 42. Qxg6 Ne4 43. Qxf5 Nd2 44. Qf4+ Kc8 45. Qg4+ Kc7 46. Qg3+
Kb7 47. Qg7+ Kc6 48. Qc3+ Kd6 49. Qd4+ Kc7 50. Qc5+ Kd7 51. Qd4+ Ke7 52. Qh4+
Ke6 53. Qh6+ Ke7 54. Qh7+ Kd6 55. Qd3+ Kc7 56. Qc3+ Kd6 57. Qf6+ Kc7 58. Qf4+
Kb7 59. Qf7+ Kb6 60. Qg6+ Ka7 61. Qa6+ Kb8 62. Qb5+ Kc8 63. Qc5+ Kd7 64. Qa7+
Kd6 65. Qa6+ Kd7 66. Qb5+ Kd6 67. Qd3+ Kc6 68. Qa6+ Kd7 69. Qb7+ Kd8 70. Qd5+
Ke7 71. Qg5+ Kd7 72. Qb5+ Ke7 73. Qg5+ Kd7 74. Qd5+ Ke7 75. Qb7+ Kf8 76. Qc8+
Ke7 77. Qc7+ Ke6 78. Qc6+ Ke7 79. Qc7+ Ke8 80. Qc6+ Ke7 81. Qb7+ Kd6 82. Qb8+
Kd7 83. Qb7+ Ke6 84. Qb6+ Ke7 85. Qa7+ Ke6 86. Qb6+ Ke7 87. Qb7+ 1/2-1/2
[Event "Rapid 11' + 0'', Rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.05.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Opponent, Engine X"]
[Black "Solista, Blue Marlin 15.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B01"]
[WhiteElo "xxxx"]
[BlackElo "2296"]
[PlyCount "136"]
[EventDate "2022.??.??"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bf5 6. Ne5 c6 7. Bc4 e6 8. g4
Bg6 9. h4 Nbd7 10. Nxd7 Nxd7 11. h5 Be4 12. O-O Bd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Bd3 g6
15. a4 Bd6 16. Bd2 Qd8 17. Kg2 Qf6 18. g5 Qxd4 19. Bc3 Qh4 20. Bxh8 Qxg5+ 21.
Kh3 Qf4 22. Kg2 Qg5+ 23. Kf3 O-O-O 24. Bg7 f6 25. Rh1 gxh5 26. Qg1 Qd2 27. Rxh5
Ne5+ 28. Kg2 Qf4 29. Qh1 Rg8 30. Rxh7 Qg5+ 31. Kf1 Rxg7 32. Rxg7 Qxg7 33. Re1
Qg5 34. Qh2 Bc5 35. Qg3 Qxg3 36. fxg3 Kd7 37. Be2 f5 38. c3 a5 39. Rb1 Ke7 40.
b4 axb4 41. cxb4 Bd6 42. Kg2 Kd8 43. Bf1 Nc6 44. b5 Na5 45. b6 Ke7 46. Bd3 Be5
47. Rb5 Bc3 48. Rc5 Bd2 49. Rc7+ Kf6 50. Rc2 Be3 51. Rb2 Ke5 52. Re2 Kd4 53.
Bb5 e5 54. Bd7 Nc4 55. Bxf5 e4 56. g4 Nxb6 57. Rb2 Ke5 58. a5 Nc4 59. Rxb7 Nxa5
60. Re7+ Kd4 61. Rg7 Bh6 62. Rg8 Nc4 63. g5 Ne3+ 64. Kh3 Nxf5 65. gxh6 Nxh6 66.
Rf8 Ke5 67. Kg2 d4 68. Kf1 d3 1/2-1/2
Today I tested Scandinavian with black twice on InfinityChess, where I only made the one allowed move. With rest, the engine calculated immediately after 1...d5. My opponent played from the book for a very long time. He still couldn't win at level 11min! Apparently you would have to lower the level so that more games are won.
Here are my two games:
[Event "Rapid 11' + 0'', Rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.05.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Opponent, Engine X"]
[Black "Solista, Blue Marlin 15.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B01"]
[WhiteElo "xxxx"]
[BlackElo "2295"]
[PlyCount "173"]
[EventDate "2022.??.??"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. d4 Qxd5 4. Nf3 Bg4 5. Be2 Nc6 6. h3 Bxf3 7. Bxf3 Qd7 8.
O-O O-O-O 9. c3 e5 10. Bg5 Be7 11. Nd2 exd4 12. Qb3 Rhe8 13. Rae1 Nd5 14. Bxe7
Rxe7 15. Rxe7 Ncxe7 16. Ne4 b6 17. Rd1 Nc6 18. Ng3 Kb8 19. cxd4 Qe6 20. a3 Nce7
21. Qc2 f5 22. Qc1 Rd6 23. Nh5 g6 24. Nf4 Nxf4 25. Qxf4 Qf6 26. b4 Nc6 27. d5
Ne5 28. Be2 Nf7 29. a4 Rd7 30. a5 Qe5 31. Qd2 Nd6 32. Qc2 Ne4 33. axb6 cxb6 34.
d6 Qc3 35. Qa2 Rxd6 36. Rxd6 Nxd6 37. Qg8+ Qc8 38. Qxh7 Qe8 39. Bf1 a5 40. bxa5
bxa5 41. Qg7 Qe1 42. Qxg6 Ne4 43. Qxf5 Nd2 44. Qf4+ Kc8 45. Qg4+ Kc7 46. Qg3+
Kb7 47. Qg7+ Kc6 48. Qc3+ Kd6 49. Qd4+ Kc7 50. Qc5+ Kd7 51. Qd4+ Ke7 52. Qh4+
Ke6 53. Qh6+ Ke7 54. Qh7+ Kd6 55. Qd3+ Kc7 56. Qc3+ Kd6 57. Qf6+ Kc7 58. Qf4+
Kb7 59. Qf7+ Kb6 60. Qg6+ Ka7 61. Qa6+ Kb8 62. Qb5+ Kc8 63. Qc5+ Kd7 64. Qa7+
Kd6 65. Qa6+ Kd7 66. Qb5+ Kd6 67. Qd3+ Kc6 68. Qa6+ Kd7 69. Qb7+ Kd8 70. Qd5+
Ke7 71. Qg5+ Kd7 72. Qb5+ Ke7 73. Qg5+ Kd7 74. Qd5+ Ke7 75. Qb7+ Kf8 76. Qc8+
Ke7 77. Qc7+ Ke6 78. Qc6+ Ke7 79. Qc7+ Ke8 80. Qc6+ Ke7 81. Qb7+ Kd6 82. Qb8+
Kd7 83. Qb7+ Ke6 84. Qb6+ Ke7 85. Qa7+ Ke6 86. Qb6+ Ke7 87. Qb7+ 1/2-1/2
[Event "Rapid 11' + 0'', Rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.05.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Opponent, Engine X"]
[Black "Solista, Blue Marlin 15.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B01"]
[WhiteElo "xxxx"]
[BlackElo "2296"]
[PlyCount "136"]
[EventDate "2022.??.??"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bf5 6. Ne5 c6 7. Bc4 e6 8. g4
Bg6 9. h4 Nbd7 10. Nxd7 Nxd7 11. h5 Be4 12. O-O Bd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Bd3 g6
15. a4 Bd6 16. Bd2 Qd8 17. Kg2 Qf6 18. g5 Qxd4 19. Bc3 Qh4 20. Bxh8 Qxg5+ 21.
Kh3 Qf4 22. Kg2 Qg5+ 23. Kf3 O-O-O 24. Bg7 f6 25. Rh1 gxh5 26. Qg1 Qd2 27. Rxh5
Ne5+ 28. Kg2 Qf4 29. Qh1 Rg8 30. Rxh7 Qg5+ 31. Kf1 Rxg7 32. Rxg7 Qxg7 33. Re1
Qg5 34. Qh2 Bc5 35. Qg3 Qxg3 36. fxg3 Kd7 37. Be2 f5 38. c3 a5 39. Rb1 Ke7 40.
b4 axb4 41. cxb4 Bd6 42. Kg2 Kd8 43. Bf1 Nc6 44. b5 Na5 45. b6 Ke7 46. Bd3 Be5
47. Rb5 Bc3 48. Rc5 Bd2 49. Rc7+ Kf6 50. Rc2 Be3 51. Rb2 Ke5 52. Re2 Kd4 53.
Bb5 e5 54. Bd7 Nc4 55. Bxf5 e4 56. g4 Nxb6 57. Rb2 Ke5 58. a5 Nc4 59. Rxb7 Nxa5
60. Re7+ Kd4 61. Rg7 Bh6 62. Rg8 Nc4 63. g5 Ne3+ 64. Kh3 Nxf5 65. gxh6 Nxh6 66.
Rf8 Ke5 67. Kg2 d4 68. Kf1 d3 1/2-1/2